Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.46.0] [Selebus]

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  1. On the subject of whether any/all of the girls are in love with Akira (however we define love), I just want to touch on something I've brought up a couple of times: none of the characters in this game are particularly sane. So whether they're capable of true, adult love, however we want to define that, and however many lessons they may get, is a real question. And that starts with Akira, but includes all of the other adults, obviously. Maybe the whole point of the game is to get to the point where Sensei and his LI(s) actually begin to understand that? Maybe?
  2. Something just occurred about the Space War: okay, so all of the adult men in Kumon-mi are gone -- but where are the boys?????? You can't tell me they're drafting everyone over middle school age. (ETA: Okay, I get it's supposed to be ridiculous -- when I first started playing the game, it felt like Selebus was spoofing all of the silly ways harem games make the MC the only possible option, just as I felt that Sensei's mentality in Ch 1 spoofed the typical harem game player's COLLECT THEM ALL! approach. I get that it's meant to be absurd. Still. Humor me.)
 
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Antosha said:
  1. On the subject of whether any/all of the girls are in love with Akira (however we define love), I just want to touch on something I've brought up a couple of times: none of the characters in this game are particularly sane. So whether they're capable of true, adult love, however we want to define that, and however many lessons they may get, is a real question. And that starts with Akira, but includes all of the other adults, obviously. Maybe the whole point of the game is to get to the point where Sensei and his LI(s) actually begin to understand that? Maybe?
  2. Something just occurred about the Space War: okay, so all of the adult men in Kumon-mi are gone -- but where are the boys?????? You can't tell me they're drafting everyone over middle school age.
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1.I would argue most of the girls are sane.
2.Someone reply with THE PIC
 
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1.I would argue most of the girls are sane.
2.Someone reply with THE PIC
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  1. I'd respectfully disagree. Sexual abuse. Depression. Self-harm. Eating disorders. Panic. Blackouts. Hallucinations. Aphasia and (possibly) mutism. Trauma from lots and lots of loved ones who died violently or are inexplicably non-present. Etc. Etc. Everyone in the game that I can think of either suffers from some major mental challenges -- or is just plain acting very weird (Tsubasa? I'm looking at you too, my dear.)
  2. Oh, fine. Hit me with it.
 
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Antosha said:
  1. I'd respectfully disagree. Sexual abuse. Depression. Self-harm. Eating disorders. Panic. Blackouts. Hallucinations. Aphasia and (possibly) mutism. Trauma from lots and lots of loved ones who died violently or are inexplicably non-present. Etc. Etc. Everyone in the game that I can think of either suffers from some major mental challenges -- or is just plain acting very weird (Tsubasa? I'm looking at you too, my dear.)
  2. Oh, fine. Hit me with it.
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1.Insane and heavily damaged are different things though.Although sematics are disgusting so i wont even try to argue about that.
 
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Uta, Futaba, even Makoto are debatable in my opinion.
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...That moment when you hit the image attachment limit. :LOL: This is a Sensei schlong sized post, so read at your own discretion.

Just wanted to pile some potential evidence together for these three girls regarding their love for Akira, so here we go:

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Fire Lord Zuko said:
...That moment when you hit the image attachment limit. :LOL: This is a Sensei schlong sized post, so read at your own discretion.

Just wanted to pile some potential evidence together for these three girls regarding their love for Akira, so here we go:

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"Will you let me take a bite out of your heart" goes so hard.And it also fits Uta(And tbh many of the girls)
 
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Antosha said:
Something just occurred about the Space War: okay, so all of the adult men in Kumon-mi are gone -- but where are the boys?????? You can't tell me they're drafting everyone over middle school age. (ETA: Okay, I get it's supposed to be ridiculous -- when I first started playing the game, it felt like Selebus was spoofing all of the silly ways harem games make the MC the only possible option, just as I felt that Sensei's mentality in Ch 1 spoofed the typical harem game player's COLLECT THEM ALL! approach. I get that it's meant to be absurd. Still. Humor me.)
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But yup, there are so many holes there in Kumon-mi's situation that it's honestly easier to treat it as a forged world intentionally filled with convenience, as finding a way to rationalize all the bizarreness is next to impossible. Quite literally the only way to think about Kumon-mi without going into any infinite rabbit hole is to perceive it as a small close-off box universe with minimal dudes to compete with because whoever created this place did that on purpose.
 
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Yarazin said:
Thanks for this! Though it gives weight to Akira not being involved right?
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I believe it does, yeah. I bet it's gonna be a Rin x Sana sex animation we can access on the laptop in Akira's room when we're inevitably given access to it again. Non-canon and without Akira. At least, that's what it's sounding like.

I suppose we'll find out for certain in- *checks the date* -ten days!? Damn... This month has flown by. We'll be hitting the beach before we know it.
 
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1.Insane and heavily damaged are different things though.Although sematics are disgusting so i wont even try to argue about that.
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Fair enough. I'll talk semantics any time you want, but I recognize it's a pointless exercise.

I'll just make this semantic point: I did say they weren't particularly sane, not insane. I mean, there are a few characters I'd argue were definitely clinically nuts (Akira first and foremost)
 
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Fire Lord Zuko said:
...That moment when you hit the image attachment limit. :LOL: This is a Sensei schlong sized post, so read at your own discretion.

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1) I just saw this after missing it and for a second I thought this was literally a post trying to discern the exact size of Akira's penis lmao

B) None of those things (besides Futaba's line which I'll comment on later) actually confirm or imply someone to be in love. Most of those are normal teenage girl reactions to being heartbroken/teased/etc. Again, it's hard to quantify how much someone loves a person though, and what we even mean by love.
Makoto's marriage certificate shenanigans can't be taken as anything definitively, either. I mean, it kind of is a joke and she stated her motivations. The biggest problem is that you can't really say anything for sure unless you could ask the character, and they didn't cover that in any of the CS classes I took

Green) Futaba's pretty obvious slip is the best example we have. I don't really doubt her or even want to argue against, I just meant that it's debatable. And that's mainly again, because we're dealing with literally underaged characters that may or may not even understand what they're feeling, and they/we might not know what they mean by it. Hers is the best case. But I doubt Makoto would go so far as to say she's in love, or to be certain of it, and Uta is a maybe but again, nothing is clear. I'm not really in any camp either way on them, my post mainly spawned because I don't like the notion "they're all in love because that's the point and they have feelings for him so it has to be true" when it's obviously not the case (yet) for a lot of characters.

Apple) please make a post calculating the size of Akira's penis
 
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Fire Lord Zuko said:
...That moment when you hit the image attachment limit. :LOL: This is a Sensei schlong sized post, so read at your own discretion.

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I will grant 100% that just about every female character feels strong affection for and (for most of them) attraction to Akira. Even Yumi. I'm not sure that most 15-year-olds -- or even some 31- or 35-year-olds -- are capable of going outside of themselves far enough to call what they're feeling love, whatever they may call it themselves.

I think one of the things I found so devastating about Maya Prime's fate was that here was a typical teenage girl who had spent hundreds if not thousands of years (if not more) experiencing all of those feelings and having to learn -- in order to keep her object of affection (as well as everyone else) safe -- she had to keep her distance. Even though that was the last thing she wanted to do. I'll grant that what she was feeling earned the label.

ETA: I mean, the game is called Lessons in Love. If any of the characters had mastered it, why would they need lessons? (Whether it's a subject that can actually be mastered is a question for another day. :) )
 
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Something mildly interesting: in the event where Yumi apologizes to Futaba, Sensei seems to come out of the room where Maya stores her boxes at the school. He's absent at the start of the event without any in-universe explanation.
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You can see where the box room is in the background here. It's in the school's wing, just around the corner from Sensei's classroom, which is at the end of the middle portion.
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Consistent with the view from the window in this event, where Sensei apparently identifies the room as a classroom.
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Another view from outside the room, along with confirmation that it's on the third floor.
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At first I thought this might be Wakana's classroom since it's so close to Sensei's, but there's at least one door in between them at the end of the hall, so most likely her classroom is on the other side.

I have no clue what this means, but I thought I'd point it out in case anyone else wants to theorize. Also, goddamn it Selebus, show us what's in the boxes already.
 
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But yup, there are so many holes there in Kumon-mi's situation that it's honestly easier to treat it as a forged world intentionally filled with convenience, as finding a way to rationalize all the bizarreness is next to impossible. Quite literally the only way to think about Kumon-mi without going into any infinite rabbit hole is to perceive it as a small close-off box universe with minimal dudes to compete with because whoever created this place did that on purpose.
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Well to be fair, "This world was made for you.". so its really not a plothole at all, this is a constructed world.
 
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