Lux Perpetua

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I thought she want to help ayane? Perhaps she's the reason of the memory wipe event.
What makes you think that? It's more like the actions of RAS members provoked the intervention of a higher power.
I think the premature realization that the world around them is a simulation prevents the girls from going through some sort of psychological or emotional journey that they are meant to go through by the plan of those who are in control of it all. Like for example Ayane and Makoto, who have felt a certain level of despair and are now free to try to escape
 

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Tbh we still arent sure about the requirements that must be met for a girl to be able to openly discuss the cycles without repeating everything endlessly.In once cycle X was able to do so but in the next X wasnt.There are some constants though which is good,for example Tsuneyo and Yumi but im still trying to figure out it out.

My train of thought right now is that for a girl to be able to eventually be able to talk about the cycles one of 3 things must happen.

1)She must have a direct/indirect connection with Sensei(Maya and Ayane)
2)She must have previously experienced a certain amount of emotional duress at the hands of said cycle(Makotos suicide)
3)Have a connection(Direct or indirect) with a god(Tsuneyo)

Now i admit that this "theory" if you can even call it that is still in its infancy but i believe im unto something.I cant explain why Yumi is able to talk about said cycles since if we follow my theory she fulfills none of the 3 requirements i presented BUT there is something that has yet to be examined.The fact that the past that yumi supposedly remembers(Where Senseis put her many embarrasing and perverted detentions for his own amusement,which would never happen with current sensei cause it requires too much energy) is a fake.

So yea do share your thoughts cause while im not able to go full tin foil hat like Deskel aramaug moonflare i will pitch in for the boring stuff kekw.
 
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"Nodoka was kinda right to air out Io's childhood abuse in front of her classmates." Fr? I mean I know Io is a total bitch, but... Nodoka was totally over the line. Like always. Literally why did she even say that? Just to auto-fellate her intellect like always. Nodoka is a way bigger bitch than Io, just because the words she says are true doesn't mean she's "right".

I would argue (like most people I guess) that Nodoka is useful as a character, I think she is useful as a visible "antagonist" or at least an uncomfortable foil to Sensei, but she suuuucks. She's in a contest with Sensei for the "worst person alive" award. "Same type of Stand" type shit.

Her purity route is either gonna be the worst or the best though, we'll find out in a decade.
Something related to Nodoka and that event but sort of unrelated to her personality: I somehow got agitated by the 'ethanol' question a lot more than the trauma question because that was where Selly's attempt in writing an omnipotent character didn't fly for me due to Selly himself potentially not being familiar enough with the subject. Same shit as the Jimmy Neutron sodium chloride BS.

The question is "What's Io's favorite volatile organic compound?" and Nodoka's answer is "Guess it's ethanol because of her hobby in woodworking". It was showcasing how observant Nodoka always has been, but the question was so poorly worded that the only sense I could get was that Selly was just flexing on stuff he randomly looked up but was still far from being enough knowledgeable to formulate a proper question, and continued to force Nodoka to be correct. It's so bewildering to me that it almost feels like Io wrote down 'ethanol' after Nodoka said her answer.

If Nodoka was truly almighty in the realm of every field there is to human then she should've started with rephrasing Imani's question because subject experts would require specific prompts to give you answers, or they'd otherwise list all possibilities because the one who asked questions were incapable of being specific, but Nodoka did none of that. She just went with a question that looked vague as shit in the eye of people that actually know more, and provided an unsatisfactory answer, then somehow got it right and everyone had to keep worshipping her boundless brain. :WaitWhat: :WaitWhat: :WaitWhat:

I am nerding the fuck out again and should've made this complaint 4 months ago, but that update was so awful that it must've slipped my mind.
 
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Something related to Nodoka and that event but sort of unrelated to her personality: I somehow got agitated by the 'ethanol' question a lot more than the trauma question because that was where Selly's attempt in writing an omnipotent character didn't fly for me due to Selly himself potentially not being familiar enough with the subject. Same shit as the Jimmy Neutron sodium chloride BS.

The question is "What's Io's favorite volatile organic compound?" and Nodoka's answer is "Guess it's ethanol because of her hobby in woodworking". It was showcasing how observant Nodoka always has been, but the question was so poorly worded that the only sense I could get was that Selly was just flexing on stuff he randomly looked up but was still far from being enough knowledgeable to formulate a proper question, and continued to force Nodoka to be correct. It's so bewildering to me that it almost feels like Io wrote down 'ethanol' after Nodoka said her answer.

If Nodoka was truly almighty in the realm of every field there is to human then she should've started with rephrasing Imani's question because subject experts would require specific prompts to give you answers, or they'd otherwise list all possibilities because the one who asked questions were incapable to be specific, but Nodoka did none of that. She just went with a question that looked vague as shit in the eye of people that actually know more, and provided an unsatisfactory answer, then somehow got it right and everyone had to keep worshipping her boundless brain. :WaitWhat: :WaitWhat: :WaitWhat:

I am nerding the fuck out again and should've made this complaint 4 months ago, but that update was so awful that it must've slipped my mind.
Update so traumatic he forgot to rant about it when it came out.The human body truly is fascinating
 

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LiL promotion returns => More people play LiL => More people generate LiL content => More LiL content for me.
Promotion on this site is not dependent upon him coming back. It's dependent on the mods agreeing to let the game be promoted again. I'm not sure what that would require, but it would likely require some concessions on Sel's part that he might not be willing to make.
 

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Promotion on this site is not dependent upon him coming back. It's dependent on the mods agreeing to let the game be promoted again. I'm not sure what that would require, but it would likely require some concessions on Sel's part that he might not be willing to make.
I thought Selebus have been banned in the end so both is up to mods discretion. In my head it was all Selebus' fault so it is him who should do all the job to return back
 

OIUEFIU

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Lurking here, it seems like everyone accepts that Ayane lost her pregnancy. The evidence that himawari is her daughter is pretty strong, but what is the evidence that she was ever pregnant during the course of the game?
 
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Lurking here, it seems like everyone accepts that Ayane lost her pregnancy and the evidence that himawari is her daughter is pretty strong, but what is the evidence that she was ever pregnant during the course of the game?
Moonflare and DeSkel15 have talked about this theory(thats accepted as the truth by everyone here) in a lot of detail.In short we have plenty of reasons to believe that Himawari is ayanes daughter.Starting from small details like the colour of her eyes,her caring about Sensei deeply even if she shouldnt to bigger details such as full blown dialogue lines pointing towards that exact thing.
 

OIUEFIU

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Moonflare and DeSkel15 have talked about this theory(thats accepted as the truth by everyone here) in a lot of detail.In short we have plenty of reasons to believe that Himawari is ayanes daughter.Starting from small details like the colour of her eyes,her caring about Sensei deeply even if she shouldnt to bigger details such as full blown dialogue lines pointing towards that exact thing.
I know, I was asking about the pregnancy.
Edited my previous post to make it clearer.
 

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Lurking here, it seems like everyone accepts that Ayane lost her pregnancy and the evidence that himawari is her daughter is pretty strong, but what is the evidence that she was ever pregnant during the course of the game?
There are so many hints.

I admit I was really dumb in my first play through and didn't realize she was pregnant until the same time Maya did. The scene of her almost-confession should be enough for most people but there is so much more. The clues are everywhere. During that time, she often feels unwell. She stressed about something that she's keeping a secret. In ami's invite over event, Ayane is said to have an intense craving and has been very worried lately. Ayane drops multiple "jokes" about being pregnant.
Then of course the scene where she talks about needing to tell Ami about her and Sensei.
 

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Lurking here, it seems like everyone accepts that Ayane lost her pregnancy. The evidence that himawari is her daughter is pretty strong, but what is the evidence that she was ever pregnant during the course of the game?
Subtle implications can be found in her Ch2 events from Under the World Tree to Before the Sun Comes Up and Sara's She's Always a Woman, plus another mention of her uncharacteristically not feeling well again in Ch2 The Price of Experience.

Maya suggested the possibility of Ayane being pregnant in Somewhere Inside of a Dream, and her pregnancy is finally confirmed by the end of Ch3 Untitled.
 

OIUEFIU

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There are so many hints.

I admit I was really dumb in my first play through and didn't realize she was pregnant until the same time Maya did. The scene of her almost-confession should be enough for most people but there is so much more. The clues are everywhere. During that time, she often feels unwell. She stressed about something that she's keeping a secret. In ami's invite over event, Ayane is said to have an intense craving and has been very worried lately. Ayane drops multiple "jokes" about being pregnant.
Then of course the scene where she talks about needing to tell Ami about her and Sensei.
Oh shit, thats true. I just remembered Maya asking her if she was pregnant which she very much refused and I didnt think she had any reason to lie. Did the reset remove her memory of being pregnant? Kinda weird that this doesnt happen more often with other girls.
 

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Moonflare and DeSkel15 have talked about this theory(thats accepted as the truth by everyone here) in a lot of detail.In short we have plenty of reasons to believe that Himawari is ayanes daughter.Starting from small details like the colour of her eyes,her caring about Sensei deeply even if she shouldnt to bigger details such as full blown dialogue lines pointing towards that exact thing.
Not Alex. That guy was insistent that she wasn't. And yes, his inability to read subtext bothered me so much that I still remember that
 

Fire Lord Zuko

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Lurking here, it seems like everyone accepts that Ayane lost her pregnancy. The evidence that himawari is her daughter is pretty strong, but what is the evidence that she was ever pregnant during the course of the game?
There are numerous hints, actually. Mainly from Ayane. But I've compiled probably the most obvious bits of evidence.

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OIUEFIU

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There are numerous hints, actually. Mainly from Ayane. But I've compiled probably the most obvious bits of evidence.

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Yea, now you reminded me of how awful Akiras behavior to Ayane during that time was. I need to replay the game, anytime I see the old stuff, its jarring how Akira acted at the beginning.
 
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