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I see...so truly grooming rivals. This does make sense, honestly this past really is messed up
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So far we have had 3 TSS. Noriko who has an egg, Futaba who doesn't and whatever what was going on with Sana. But I can't wrap my head around why Noriko and Futaba where isekaid there. Sana's terribly named brother said the gods congregate there but I can't think of any known ties Noriko and Futaba have to any of the 3 (possibly 4) gods.
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I agree more events might happen there but I've also been thinking lately that invite events, headpats, etc are done or almost done since Sel seems to hate that type of content. I would be cool going more linear but Sel cant resist making us play through day after day to get to the next event.
If I remember right Sel said chapter 6 will be the dark route. I am guessing we may have another year of 4 since it is supposed to be the longest. 5 will finish the harem stuff but will get bad as it leads into the dark route. I am not convinced that all the girls will be lewded before the dark route. Maybe the wizard stuff happens during that time and Akira 'fixes' things during the purity routes. It may have been you who suggested before that the purity routes will be alternate timelines that give all the girls a fairly happy ending. I would be cool with that. I don't know what I want for a true ending. Probably just Akira happy with my favorite girls would be good for me. I pretty sure that wont happen.
Given that Sel has stated his most hated update was when he had to remake all the hangout scenes and his general dislike of animations, I'd very surprised if he put in the work to change invite events/animations to the new apartment.
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Yay, I finally completed the update.
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long time no see you beautiful bastards, I probably am going crazy but am thinking of replaying LiL from the beginning, is there a mod that makes the game not a dread to get through? like a linear mod of sorts?
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Some madlad actually did this. But you have to use search function, though I don't remember any keywords, xd
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After that last Chika scene I really want her to learn about Maya (maybe prime) just to know she'll never be #1 in Sensei's eyes.
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You really want to see the world burn, huh?
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She's not first not even in her own household *laughs in Yumi*
(this turned into a massive post cause I needed to vent about Chika's delusional conversation apparently).about Chika:
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Furthermore, he wished she'd just fade him out and not bait him to betray Maya Prime.
In fact, she knows she's not number 1 if there's competition:
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But hey:
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Chika's delusion arc is objectively being dragged on for too long. I get the feeling that Sel has been struggling with fitting everything into the right timeline, her "waking up" has been long overdue and there were many opportunities before to introduce her downfall, in my opinion.
With Miku's latest scene being something that Sel admitted he planned since Chapter 1 that ended up in Chapter 4, apparently meant as a shocker, I feel like he is starting to get things slightly out of a logical order. That scene would indeed have a big impact, I believe, if it happened somewhere in Chatper 2 or 3. I don't remember who it was but someone (with a bigger noggin than me) mentioned that the first scene with Miku panicking was potentially planned as being the first sex scene and thus basically this event, but got changed during development. It would make sense, given that Stomachache happened (which I haven't watched yet myself but I understand the gist of what has happened, I guess, shut up don't judge me) in the meantime, which is kind of dwarfing the impact of Miku's scene now.
The same would apply to Maki's refusal to even consider Akira's involvement in Makoto's and now Miku's sex life. Maki may be a little weird, but she is smart, obviously she would have at least started to sniff out that Akira might be more than just friends with her two daughters, but there has been nothing so far that would indicate that, as far as I know.
Similarly Niki, who seems a little too oblivious to everything as well (though I play the good uncle route so I did not have the cum jar scene, but that means its not canon then ).
It makes me wonder whether Sel was deliberately stalling some of the developments to put them closer to the dark routes and have a more significant transition into what would become the switch from harem to dark.
Who knows what he has planned, but I could imagine it being a culmination of characters having their "eyes opened" and seeing the "true" Akira all in close timely proximity to each other, cascading into a series of events that exponentially develop into a huge pile of problemburgers for Akira that eventually initiate said dark route. Hence, from Sel's perspective, he didn't want some of those revelation to happen too early in the timeline, I guess?
Still, to me it seems a little off and illogical for most of the characters. Not a huge issue, but still a gripe I have with some of the current developments. And maybe it will make sense over time, who knows.
With Miku's latest scene being something that Sel admitted he planned since Chapter 1 that ended up in Chapter 4, apparently meant as a shocker, I feel like he is starting to get things slightly out of a logical order. That scene would indeed have a big impact, I believe, if it happened somewhere in Chatper 2 or 3. I don't remember who it was but someone (with a bigger noggin than me) mentioned that the first scene with Miku panicking was potentially planned as being the first sex scene and thus basically this event, but got changed during development. It would make sense, given that Stomachache happened (which I haven't watched yet myself but I understand the gist of what has happened, I guess, shut up don't judge me) in the meantime, which is kind of dwarfing the impact of Miku's scene now.
The same would apply to Maki's refusal to even consider Akira's involvement in Makoto's and now Miku's sex life. Maki may be a little weird, but she is smart, obviously she would have at least started to sniff out that Akira might be more than just friends with her two daughters, but there has been nothing so far that would indicate that, as far as I know.
Similarly Niki, who seems a little too oblivious to everything as well (though I play the good uncle route so I did not have the cum jar scene, but that means its not canon then
).It makes me wonder whether Sel was deliberately stalling some of the developments to put them closer to the dark routes and have a more significant transition into what would become the switch from harem to dark.
Who knows what he has planned, but I could imagine it being a culmination of characters having their "eyes opened" and seeing the "true" Akira all in close timely proximity to each other, cascading into a series of events that exponentially develop into a huge pile of problemburgers for Akira that eventually initiate said dark route. Hence, from Sel's perspective, he didn't want some of those revelation to happen too early in the timeline, I guess?
Still, to me it seems a little off and illogical for most of the characters. Not a huge issue, but still a gripe I have with some of the current developments. And maybe it will make sense over time, who knows.
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So, imagine the dark route is about everyone hating Akira because of his actions as a predator\rapist\man-slut\pedo\hebe\etc, xdd
But I can't imagine someone like Ayane would stop liking Sensei. Only if she will be hard resetted, but that would be a dick move from Selebus
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I think Ayane is not exclusive in that, I believe most characters would have a hard time truly hating Akira for being who he is currently. Look at Io, Yumi, Karin/Kirin, Chika, Noriko, etc. who would have very good reasons to cut ties with him for what he has done to them or what they learned about him, yet they still like him.
So I think that either it will take a lot more for them to hate him, or it will not be about hating him, but hating themselves.
There has been a lot of set-up done already about Akira ruining the girls. Not physically, but mentally. Io and Chika are the first ones that might crack, Io is already severally mentally unstable, Chika is about to go batshit crazy, other things might happen that will cause others to follow suit.
Look at Karin's latest event, on the surface it looks like it was about patching things up between them, ensuring that Akira is actually "a good guy" and Karin potentially trusting him again in the near future. But I fear it might be a bad omen, when he basically promises her it won't happen again, I can sense Pareidolia chuckling in the background, planning to make him abuse her (eventually) renewed trust and do even worse things to her, not only breaking Karin but Kirin along the way as well.
With Miku's latest development, I could imagine Akira making her become sexually traumatized, having her associate sex with the trauma of her parent's murders.
Even an Ayane could go through some severe trauma, most likely related to her being a mother, whether it be about an abortion, still birth, witnessing Akira fucking a shapeshifting Himawari who then reveals herself as Ayane's daughter etc. who knows what sick plans Sel has for those dark timelines.
Basically, the whole harem chapters are, in a certain sense, establishing everyone's weaknesses, mental issues and soft spots.
And I could imagine the dark route being about the gods wanting Akira to exploit those, causing the girls to go through severe trauma. (Why that would need to happen is beyond me tbh)
And the purity routes being Akira "fixing" them back up to complete the simulation, as Moonflare mentioned, potentially even changing the course of time by helping them overcome their insecurities and mental instabilities before anything can happen when resetting back to the beginning.
Just spit balling here, but I feel like this could be how it will develop, more or less.
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Honestly even then Ayane has been through so much that it would take something very, very very specific to break her which I'm curious what that would even be. Even since way before since she first found out about Akiras "practices", she stuck by him. Him writing that list to her of who he does it with truly is something. Which honestly, makes me like her character a lot even if she served as one of the first to have an undying amount of affection for him. It always makes me feel she is one of the characters he would want to protect the most. If anything I can see it being reverse with something happening that could traumatize Akira again related to her. Or that stuff like about Himawari but...I dunno.
That being said, she is also kinda like a very big bundle of hidden emotions which she keeps in check to keep going so...just a matter of time till that cracks I guess. Though I can imagine it would be harder to "break" the "rooftop trio and any others after, given their understanding of things without including stuff like resets. Cause I mean...if you're part of that, you're probably gonna know Akira is fucking basically every high-school and non high-school girl lol.
I feel bad for the Miku and Akira situation cause well it was more "'innocent" in a sense yeah she was causing the least problems. Not sure it will cause major sexual trauma since she was aware it would hurt, and the way she spoke was less like traumatizing in a way she would freak out always, and more like her usual self. But I don't see them doing it for a while unless she takes some large dose of pain killers or some shit.
That Karin event also did not feel like patching things up to me ngl...just felt like a reminder Akira messed up with her and they will be different for some time. Not that I was really ever looking forward to Karin events any time in this game but feels bad man
That being said, she is also kinda like a very big bundle of hidden emotions which she keeps in check to keep going so...just a matter of time till that cracks I guess. Though I can imagine it would be harder to "break" the "rooftop trio and any others after, given their understanding of things without including stuff like resets. Cause I mean...if you're part of that, you're probably gonna know Akira is fucking basically every high-school and non high-school girl lol.
I feel bad for the Miku and Akira situation cause well it was more "'innocent" in a sense yeah she was causing the least problems. Not sure it will cause major sexual trauma since she was aware it would hurt, and the way she spoke was less like traumatizing in a way she would freak out always, and more like her usual self. But I don't see them doing it for a while unless she takes some large dose of pain killers or some shit.
That Karin event also did not feel like patching things up to me ngl...just felt like a reminder Akira messed up with her and they will be different for some time. Not that I was really ever looking forward to Karin events any time in this game but feels bad man
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Now that Sana's brother name was revealed to be "Shota" I can't help but imagine he looks like Kyoutaro from The Dangers In My Heart.
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I think people are ascribing too much agency to Maya in her relationship with Sensei. She was seven years old, I'm going to need a whole mound of compelling direct evidence before I believe that she was the instigator or driver of a sexual relationship with an adult, and even then the first assumption should be that she was groomed into it. I think, if anything, the scarf story even points against it. It was Sensei that fingered her, all she did was confess her love (again, the love of a seven-year-old).
As a side note, I still don't understand what Noriko was supposed to get out of that pact. Even if she was a kid and didn't understand the implications, she must have agreed to it for a reason.
I don't think Maya kissing him in public makes much sense. It's not like the old and new districts are completely separate worlds. If he's at risk of being recognized and unmasked in the old district, that risk would still exist elsewhere in the city even if it's less.
New Maya mentioning the police came across to me as a sex kink thing, since Sensei gets off on how taboo his relationships are. I don't think there was any indication that it was an actual threat or that she had threatened it before.
More importantly, there's a lot of stuff that Noriko doesn't know about. She doesn't know about Sensei's relationship with Sekai, which was probably a big impetus for why he had to leave the old district. She doesn't know anything about what happened between when he left and when she joined the class. She sees that he's even more broken now than she remembers, so she blames Maya for that, but up until whatever triggered the resets, it seems like he had actually improved significantly outside of having an underage girlfriend.
In context, what she actually blames Maya for is not fixing him, but she doesn't know that the resets made that impossible.
Maya isn't responsible for Sensei ghosting Niki, that happened immediately after the accident when he holed up in his house with Ami. After he started improving and leaving the house, he still chose to avoid her. Even Noriko doesn't blame Maya for him abandoning them the first time.
It's reasonable to argue that Sensei would have eventually let Niki back into his life if Maya didn't push him away, but there isn't any evidence that he was considering it. I think it's telling that Sensei never talked about the Nakayamas with Ami.
As far as I'm concerned, the only thing that Maya was guilty of was pushing Sensei to leave Noriko and the old district behind. Even then, she thinks she had a good reason for it, though I'm sure her selfishness and jealousy played a large part.
It's also worth pointing out that we still have no idea why Maya hates Noriko so much, and Noriko clearly doesn't know either since she thinks it's for loving Sensei, which she realizes makes no sense.
I can't see Maya Prime maintaining this hatred for thousands of years unless either: 1. Noriko has been showing up during resets (and Maya lied about it). or 2. Maya blames her for some aspect of Sensei's present condition.
I don't have an explanation for Noriko's story, but I'm not convinced that it's Maya that she saw. According to the pact they made as kids, Maya can't go to the old district, yet both of them seem to agree that it was Noriko who broke the pact in the present day. If Noriko saw Maya in the old district, surely she would bring that up.
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New Maya mentioning the police came across to me as a sex kink thing, since Sensei gets off on how taboo his relationships are. I don't think there was any indication that it was an actual threat or that she had threatened it before.
As this thread's resident Noriko hater, I feel obligated to push back on some of this. To start with, Noriko is not an objective source when it comes to Maya. Her feelings towards her are all kinds of confused, but they include jealousy and bearing a grudge over the past.
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In context, what she actually blames Maya for is not fixing him, but she doesn't know that the resets made that impossible.
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As far as I'm concerned, the only thing that Maya was guilty of was pushing Sensei to leave Noriko and the old district behind. Even then, she thinks she had a good reason for it, though I'm sure her selfishness and jealousy played a large part.
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I'd actually argue that this is the only reason that we have direct evidence for. Sekai and Pareidolia view Sensei being broken as his true self, and they want him to return to that and become the Collector. Maya Prime was pushing him in the opposite direction, trying to get him to care about the girls. When Pareidolia talks about Maya grooming Sensei, he's referring to what she's done during the resets, not to their sexual relationship.
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Sensei likely wasn't allowed to bring up the Nakayamas. Maya seemed to make it part of their relationship, at least when it came to Niki:
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The Nakayamas plus Sekai seemed to be the only three people Maya was jealous of:
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If Sensei's selective "amnesia" wasn't already a thing by that time, he simply wasn't allowed to mention the Nakayamas and definitely wouldn't be allowed to make them part of Ami's life.
Noriko also specifically blames Maya for making Sensei think he's all alone:
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When it comes to Noriko and Maya, it really does just seem to come down to Maya's jealousy and obsessiveness. Even if she's trying to justify it. (Although, I have wondered if Maya thought that Noriko was the wizard he truly wanted, but held himself back due to "love" and fear. Him seeing Tsukasa as wizard Noriko is...interesting. I don't think Maya would have liked being called "Noriko" when they were messing around, or at all.)
Also keep in mind that Noriko, even after everything, still cares about Maya:
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There's definitely more to the Maya/Niki stuff though, as Niki seemed to recognize Maya:
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Don't get me wrong though. Even if Maya instigated this relationship, it is still Sensei who's to blame for it's existence and it being sexual. His weakness does not and will not excuse his actions as far as I'm concerned.
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As for who Noriko saw with Sensei in the Old District: I'm thinking it may have been Ami on a day they went to visit Sekai's grave or her old house in the Old District. Something along those lines.
It kind of has to be either Ami or Maya, and it definitely doesn't fit Maya, after the pact was revealed, but something made him feel something he didn't like remembering based off him hallucinating.
Edit: Also Pareidolia is bringing up Sekai (probably), Maya, and Sensei's Parents in that Chapter 4 'The Collector' Main Event. It only referring to what happened in the Resets seems unlikely.
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