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You can't claim to want "meaningful discussion" when you have been insulting people since your first post here. You came out swinging and are now trying to play the victim, pathetic.
it's fine to prefer an "aggressive manner of argumentation" over dishonesty
it's fine to prefer the smell of dogshit over the smell of horseshit
doesn't mean the smell of dogshit is nice, nor that the "aggressive manner of argumentation" is acceptable
there's no reason for him to be "aggressive" in the first place!!
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I'm not a victim. I'm just not interested in talking to that guy for the reasons described.
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There is so much to talk about from this update that everytime I stop to think about it, another thing surfaces.
I had brought up in the past about how we might not ever see "normal" Nodoka in LiL due to the absurd weight that was thrust upon her by her mother, and I think in her last moments that became even more evidently clear. Otoha questions her over the phone about her obssession over her mother, and well, it really is a curse. Nodoka can't break free of it.
It falls on her to save not only 23, but 22 as well (one would assume that's what she means by two worlds).
Also, who is Nodoka referencing here? Her own past self? Shiori? Or her mother? Who came into contact with Himawari? One would assume it was one of her past selves.
Btw, I wonder if there's a hidden meaning to Nodoka being erased by Pareidolia here, since it's the same thing that Sekaori/True Sekai says to Sana:
I'm being led to believe that erasing is something different from resetting. But I guess we'll find out as we discover what happened to Nodoka.
All in all, Nodoka truly has a tragic tale as it became more apparent with each of these last updates. This update just reinforced that point, and also threw our preconceptions of other hated characters (Pareidolia and Sekai) out of the window (or at least made them less black and white).
Edit: Oh, another very relevant thing: gods have to go inside someone, and yet Himawari can fully materialize without a host. What gives? I mean, both Pareidolia (inside a host) and Nodoka are seeing her, right? This isn't an "Akira imagining her there deal".
I had brought up in the past about how we might not ever see "normal" Nodoka in LiL due to the absurd weight that was thrust upon her by her mother, and I think in her last moments that became even more evidently clear. Otoha questions her over the phone about her obssession over her mother, and well, it really is a curse. Nodoka can't break free of it.
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Also, who is Nodoka referencing here? Her own past self? Shiori? Or her mother? Who came into contact with Himawari? One would assume it was one of her past selves.
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All in all, Nodoka truly has a tragic tale as it became more apparent with each of these last updates. This update just reinforced that point, and also threw our preconceptions of other hated characters (Pareidolia and Sekai) out of the window (or at least made them less black and white).
Edit: Oh, another very relevant thing: gods have to go inside someone, and yet Himawari can fully materialize without a host. What gives? I mean, both Pareidolia (inside a host) and Nodoka are seeing her, right? This isn't an "Akira imagining her there deal".
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Can anyone help me with this error I keep getting? The game was working fine yesterday, but when I try to load a save from the latest update, this error just pops up every time. Saves for previous updates all work fine.
Code:
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.
While running game code:
File "renpy/common/00action_file.rpy", line 452, in __call__
MemoryError:
-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------
Full traceback:
File "renpy/common/_layout/screen_main_menu.rpymc", line 28, in script
File "C:\Users\Selebus\Documents\RenPy\renpy-7.3.2-sdk\renpy\ast.py", line 914, in execute
File "C:\Users\Selebus\Documents\RenPy\renpy-7.3.2-sdk\renpy\python.py", line 2028, in py_exec_bytecode
File "renpy/common/_layout/screen_main_menu.rpym", line 28, in <module>
File "renpy/common/_layout/screen_main_menu.rpym", line 35, in _execute_python_hide
File "C:\Users\Selebus\Documents\RenPy\renpy-7.3.2-sdk\renpy\ui.py", line 297, in interact
File "C:\Users\Selebus\Documents\RenPy\renpy-7.3.2-sdk\renpy\display\core.py", line 2702, in interact
File "C:\Users\Selebus\Documents\RenPy\renpy-7.3.2-sdk\renpy\display\core.py", line 3518, in interact_core
File "C:\Users\Selebus\Documents\RenPy\renpy-7.3.2-sdk\renpy\display\layout.py", line 998, in event
File "C:\Users\Selebus\Documents\RenPy\renpy-7.3.2-sdk\renpy\display\transition.py", line 47, in event
File "C:\Users\Selebus\Documents\RenPy\renpy-7.3.2-sdk\renpy\display\layout.py", line 998, in event
File "C:\Users\Selebus\Documents\RenPy\renpy-7.3.2-sdk\renpy\display\layout.py", line 998, in event
File "C:\Users\Selebus\Documents\RenPy\renpy-7.3.2-sdk\renpy\display\screen.py", line 714, in event
File "C:\Users\Selebus\Documents\RenPy\renpy-7.3.2-sdk\renpy\display\layout.py", line 998, in event
File "C:\Users\Selebus\Documents\RenPy\renpy-7.3.2-sdk\renpy\display\layout.py", line 244, in event
File "C:\Users\Selebus\Documents\RenPy\renpy-7.3.2-sdk\renpy\display\layout.py", line 998, in event
File "C:\Users\Selebus\Documents\RenPy\renpy-7.3.2-sdk\renpy\display\layout.py", line 244, in event
File "C:\Users\Selebus\Documents\RenPy\renpy-7.3.2-sdk\renpy\display\layout.py", line 998, in event
File "C:\Users\Selebus\Documents\RenPy\renpy-7.3.2-sdk\renpy\display\layout.py", line 244, in event
File "C:\Users\Selebus\Documents\RenPy\renpy-7.3.2-sdk\renpy\display\behavior.py", line 962, in event
File "C:\Users\Selebus\Documents\RenPy\renpy-7.3.2-sdk\renpy\display\behavior.py", line 897, in handle_click
File "C:\Users\Selebus\Documents\RenPy\renpy-7.3.2-sdk\renpy\display\behavior.py", line 313, in run
File "C:\Users\Selebus\Documents\RenPy\renpy-7.3.2-sdk\renpy\display\behavior.py", line 320, in run
File "renpy/common/00action_file.rpy", line 452, in __call__
File "C:\Users\Selebus\Documents\RenPy\renpy-7.3.2-sdk\renpy\loadsave.py", line 769, in load
File "C:\Users\Selebus\Documents\RenPy\renpy-7.3.2-sdk\renpy\loadsave.py", line 63, in loads
MemoryError:
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Ren'Py 7.3.5.606
Lessons in Love 0.44.0
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Post Update Lessons In Love forum in a Nutshell
- A bunch of new people show up after the update and share they're theories and opinions on the update
- More theory crafting
- Even more theory crafting
- Initial wave of post update previews get posted
- More theories and discussions
- A new user manages to piss off multiple people because [insert reason]
- Person says im not being an asshole because [insert]
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The reason why Himawari was never reset is because she was raised in the slipped dimension, where resets are unnaffected, she keeps getting older despite her mother not being able to.
The reason why Ami had pictures of the girls wearing cosplays they never wore before is because they are memories from distant realities that were hard reset, and they were in boxes because it's just the convenient place to put pictures when you want to move a lot of stuff. The boxes themselves are ordinary, but as long as you slip them, they will be safe until the world is back to normal and you can bring them back.
This means that Maya has always been able to slip, and every time a reset ocurred, she didn't do anything special, she just slipped herself and all of her guests alongside.
Ami can also slip but is pretending to be unaware.
Ayane, my new priest, has learned to slip just recently. If Tsuneyo and Yumi didn't remember anything, it's because she willingfully left them all behind. If I wanted things to stay the same forever, I'd pick someone who also wanted the same.
The reason why Ami had pictures of the girls wearing cosplays they never wore before is because they are memories from distant realities that were hard reset, and they were in boxes because it's just the convenient place to put pictures when you want to move a lot of stuff. The boxes themselves are ordinary, but as long as you slip them, they will be safe until the world is back to normal and you can bring them back.
This means that Maya has always been able to slip, and every time a reset ocurred, she didn't do anything special, she just slipped herself and all of her guests alongside.
Ami can also slip but is pretending to be unaware.
Ayane, my new priest, has learned to slip just recently. If Tsuneyo and Yumi didn't remember anything, it's because she willingfully left them all behind. If I wanted things to stay the same forever, I'd pick someone who also wanted the same.
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i wonder what worlds 1-21 are like, if they exist
Just to confirm, is it a specific save file that's not working, and the other ones around it work fine? If so, the error trace makes it look like a corrupt save file.
One thing you can try doing is going into "LessonsInLove/game/" and move the folder called "cache" onto your Desktop or somewhere else for backup (the key thing is that you move it out of the folder named "game") and then try restarting the game, and it'll regenerate the "cache" folder on its own.
If that doesn't work, your best bet is probably to use one of your other save files (assuming it's only one save that's crashing)
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Can you do us all a favor and not speak to any of us then? Cause all the regulars are thinking the same thing when you make a new post, "ugh, here we go, Moby Dickler riding his e-peen again...".
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If I try to load any save file that was made while playing events from the latest update, it will result in the error I posted before. This also happens when I load a save from a previous update, play up till the events of the latest update, and then make a new save, this new save file will also result in the error if I try to load it.
In that case, how did you install the game? Did you apply the update patch? I'd suggest doing a fresh re-install
edit: actually before reinstalling, another thing you can try is close all the other programs on your computer and see if that makes a difference. a simple way to do this is to restart your pc and then launch LiL without launching any other programs (any programs that auto-run would still be running but ideally, none of those would be particularly RAM-hungry)
also, out of curiosity could you share how much memory your computer has? you can follow this guide to find out:
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Presumably, Kyoko dreamed of Himawari which is what Nodoka was probably referring to:
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In theory: Himawari has been fucking with the timestream for a while, considering all the hints about her being from a future, she's probably one of the main culprits when it comes to timeline manipulation. Albeit, who knows who else is also from a future or something like that.
After the whole Miu Miyahara possibly being Sekai's mother thing (where does her Red eyes come from?) from last update, with Saki seemingly becoming a stalker (Miu and Saki hated eachother and loved Yuu), I've wondered if that's from an alternative route from 'Nothing Is Beautiful'. Like Miu's route led to Sekai, and Saki's led to Nozomu and Akira.
Something then maybe merged certain aspects of alternative timelines for the main timeline, which became 'Lessons in Love'.
Also, Ami now seems to have two grandmas from the Upside Down House apparently. Grandma Saki (Father's side) and Grandma Miu (Mother's side).
I'm also wondering why Yasu claimed 'Nothing is Beautiful' aka Terminal 22 is gone:
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Theoretically, if one can travel to the past(s) from the present, and back again, there could be some possibility of traveling to the future(s) as well, which may have been shown through timeskips like the one at beachmas. Where Ayane, Maya, and Sensei just wound up 2 months later on the beach.
Overall: Effing time travel.
Also, kind of figured things likely weren't going to go well for Nodoka and she was probably aware of it as well:
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But you're cool, Bingoogus
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So you think that the boxes that Maya was having Sensei lug around were full of photos and memories? That's a sold theory, I like it. Possibly why they would be in Ayane's house, since she saw them after that reset and is trying to "bring Maya back".
Side note: I was thinking about why Kaori was ignoring Maya, if she has Sekai in her it makes sense because Sekai hates Maya. In Something Everyone Knows and Ignores that's all Sekai does is ignore Maya. Wild ass event too.
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I went ahead with the fresh re-install and so far it's back to normal! Everything works well hopefully it stays that way. Thanks for the help.
Didn't Sensei time travel in Good Boy to see Sara? And that one time on the beach with Maya. I'd bet she got it from him.
And if Lessons in Love is 23 and NiB is 22, does that make that upside down house 24? I also had thoughts that it might be the well, for gods that don't have anyone believing in them. Turned into people and thrown in.
the thing about terminal numbers made me think about ports from computer networking - port 23 is reserved for the Telnet protocol and port 22 for SSH
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- basically Telnet and SSH are both protocols that facilitate logging into a computer remotely so you can issue commands from a shell/terminal. Funny thing is these days, SSH (22) has completely subsumed Telnet (23) 'cause the latter has far worse security but in LiL it's 22 that gets lost. There's no deeper meaning to this, just random trivia
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Possibly, he definitely was experiencing things from a past. Not sure about the Maya one though.
The Upside Down House might be a Terminal but it's not clear. It might just be remnants of Terminal 22 (NiB), considering that characters from that game/world are in it.
Terminal 24 might be 'Grow Old. Then Die', which was a cancelled side project of Sel's, but some characters from it have appeared lately in LiL like Kanon and Tsurumi.
Or 24 is something entirely new.