Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.48.0] [Selebus]

[Hario1225]

Aditionally, I think the big dick thing is more of something for the male reader honestly, his targets are more often than not so small (compared to his height) that an average dick would already be bordering on overkill.

A bit weird to have something like that on my screen to be honest
I don't really see its appeal.

 

[manjak8]

I will citate myself on this one "that if LiL would be a phenomena on how to Write VN, then Perfect Pitch shall be a phenomena on how Make VNs". Have you not noticed the difference between scenes and positioning made in any other vn(especially the japanese one, bueh) and Perfect Pitch? It is a marvel of technical mastery, that is how vn should be made, not the "one frame and wall of text and then another wagon of text". I am fucking sick of this (War and Peace of Tolstoy) amount of writing crammed into a single motherfucking frame and position. It speak of lazyness and lack of power in the creator to make something marginally better, so again, Perfect Pitch is a good example of vn that author " puts his soul" into

marvel of technical mastery for vn would be ,,out of touch'', perfect pitch would be definitely upgrade compared to lil on technical level but not an insane one, also no amount of technical excellence can compensate writing anyway, If I would want to play games that are better on technical level, I wouldn't be searching them among vn's in first place. but that's just my opinion ofcourse

 

[Moonflare]

A bit weird to have something like that on my screen to be honest
I don't really see its appeal.

No, I mean like the general idea the male reader has of "big dick" = women falling over someone. While the opposite is certainly true concerning a tiny dick, the big dick idea doesn't really apply in real life as it does in fantasy.

 

[Hario1225]

No, I mean like the general idea the male reader has of "big dick" = women falling over someone. While the opposite is certainly true concerning a tiny dick, the big dick idea doesn't really apply in real life as it does in fantasy.

Considering what happened to Miku...yeah it better stay in fantasy

 

[Meskal1ne]

The technical side of lil certainly does not shine, but the level of elaboration of the world and the quality of the text are at an unattainable level. I read a lot of projects (more than hundred), but nowhere was there anything even close to this.
I stopped perceiving the game as a porn game a long time ago - it’s just a very interesting series that comes out once a month, and in which there are piquant scenes. Hope we will see end of the story, and nothing will stop Sel from finishin it.

 

[Antosha]

I'll try to suggest a few that aren't that well known. It will be a downgrade either way, but you can try these:

renpy - BOAT (finished); Monster girl 1000 (finished); My tuition academia (finished); harem hotel; corrupted kingdoms; mythic manor; goddesses' whim; Long live the princess (finished).

rpgm - The last sovereign (free on steam); Noblesse oblige (free on steam); Renryuu's ascension; Demons roots (finished).

unity (?) - Hush hush (finished); how to build a magnificent kingdom (finished); Unveiling the unknown (finished).

*all that are finished have either compelling stories or at least some sort of twist. From these, the best is magnificent kingdom but it's also the one with the most troublesome gameplay to get to that story. The easiest is BOAT. The most unexpected would be tuition academia's true end.

**from the unfinished ones, the best in terms of story is last sovereign, the other rpgm also try to tell a story but tls is almost done. The renpy ones are not that great in story, but lacking willpower to power through better stories with worse gameplay, they'll do.

Edit: As always, Higurashi; Tsukihime; Steins;Gate (original and 0); and the Fate series (especially stay/night and hollow/ataraxia) stand as overall recommendations due to their legacy to the genre.

The most relevant recommendation would be for you to watch the entirety of the Monogatari Series though, since it's on par if not superior to LiL in every way and deals with a lot of the same themes.

You suggested almost every one of the games that I would — except for MIST. Great, Stephen King-y horror/adventure, fun characters and character development, and not particularly grindy — compared to LiL.

 

[manjak8]

The technical side of lil certainly does not shine, but the level of elaboration of the world and the quality of the text are at an unattainable level. I read a lot of projects (more than hundred), but nowhere was there anything even close to this.
I stopped perceiving the game as a porn game a long time ago - it’s just a very interesting series that comes out once a month, and in which there are piquant scenes. Hope we will see end of the story, and nothing will stop Sel from finishin it.

true, I tried searching for something similar among regular books or other media, but I just cant find anything that satisfies similar itch. like how do you even describe style of lil writing? arthouse?

 

[JelF547]

Dont think so. Because even in the first events she said that she had no real contact. And she's kinda antisocial nerd.
Anyway i am pretty sure that she is still virgin. But it won't last long.

I assume something like "Molly's mother killed herself when she discovered that Molly's dad is fucking Molly, and then Molly's other relatives quickly sent her to japan"

Or, with a fewer words, domestic violence. She wouldn't be the first

 

[vehemental]

Other than it being supernaturally induced bigus dickus, Akira seems to be way taller than what a japanese man would be in general.

Given his height (assumed), it wouldn't be that out of place for him to also have a bigger than average dick.

Aditionally, I think the big dick thing is more of something for the male reader honestly, his targets are more often than not so small (compared to his height) that an average dick would already be bordering on overkill.

As a deconstruction of the genre, it's worked pretty well as a horror element in recent updates

 

[Detective Dc345]

I assume something like "Molly's mother killed herself when she discovered that Molly's dad is fucking Molly, and then Molly's other relatives quickly sent her to japan"

Or, with a fewer words, domestic violence. She wouldn't be the first

No wonder Molly doesn't like NTR....

 

[DeanNoriko]

No, I mean like the general idea the male reader has of "big dick" = women falling over someone. While the opposite is certainly true concerning a tiny dick, the big dick idea doesn't really apply in real life as it does in fantasy.

"truly spoken like a tiny-dick-having whiny little bitch who can't satisfy women the way they really crave to - having their orifices vigorously and brutally destroyed by a french baguette sized meat rod. pathetic." - Pareidolia, R.I.P.

(it's cool bro, he was just a scape goat, he did it for your own good, you see)

 

[manjak8]

"truly spoken like a tiny-dick-having whiny little bitch who can't satisfy women the way they really crave to - having their orifices vigorously and brutally destroyed by a french baguette sized meat rod. pathetic." - Pareidolia, R.I.P.

(it's cool bro, he was just a scape goat, he did it for your own good, you see)

true, its not proper ass fucking unless your dick is big enough to turn intestines around it like Italian pasta

 

[matt_riochka]

The most relevant recommendation would be for you to watch the entirety of the Monogatari Series though, since it's on par if not superior to LiL in every way and deals with a lot of the same themes.

I'm not too sure how good the official english translation by Vertical is (even though I've had the first volume of Owari sitting on my desk for 3 years-) but reading Kizu in my native language's edition was just as good if not better than the anime, minus the incredible visuals that come with the Kizu trilogy
so I'd also recommand checking out the light novels if anyone is looking for reading material

 

[Moonflare]

"truly spoken like a tiny-dick-having whiny little bitch who can't satisfy women the way they really crave to - having their orifices vigorously and brutally destroyed by a french baguette sized meat rod. pathetic." - Pareidolia, R.I.P.

(it's cool bro, he was just a scape goat, he did it for your own good, you see)

I mean, I'm supposedly a goth chick by the thread lore, not a futanari goth chick... so yeah no dick to speak of.

Pareidolia our one true bro, may you rest in concerned sleep at the bottom of the wishing well.

 

[Meskal1ne]

Pareidolia our one true bro, may you rest in concerned sleep at the bottom of the wishing well.

He could be our true bro if he had complied with the request upon returning Prime

 

[Moonflare]

I'm not too sure how good the official english translation by Vertical is (even though I've had the first volume of Owari sitting on my desk for 3 years-) but reading Kizu in my native language's edition was just as good if not better than the anime, minus the incredible visuals that come with the Kizu trilogy
so I'd also recommand checking out the light novels if anyone is looking for reading material

It was then that Oshino Meme presented Araragi with a choice: "you can be healed apart from eachother, or be forever broken (scarred) together."

And with that choice, concludes the story (monogatari) of a/my/our scar (kizu). Kizu is such a masterpiece.

That one scene, to me, touches on the core of what Monogatari is. And I think that's also why "Kyoto" hit so hard to me. If I can empathize with Sekai to some extent, if her story becomes complex, then it becomes uncomfortable. Monogatari is all about uncomfortable edges to everything, and Sekai/Pareidolia/Nodoka (blatant villains until just recently) all moving in that direction could do a lot of good to LiL's quality.

 

[manjak8]

It was then that Oshino Meme presented Araragi with a choice: "you can be healed apart from eachother, or be forever broken (scarred) together."

And with that choice, concludes the story (monogatari) of a/my/our scar (kizu). Kizu is such a masterpiece.

That one scene, to me, touches on the core of what Monogatari is. And I think that's also why "Kyoto" hit so hard to me. If I can empathize with Sekai to some extent, if her story becomes complex, then it becomes uncomfortable. Monogatari is all about uncomfortable edges to everything, and Sekai/Pareidolia/Nodoka (blatant villains until just recently) all moving in that direction could so a lot of good to LiL's quality.

i really worry about nodoka after last update, shes one of my favourites

 

[Detective Dc345]

Since we are now officially 45% through Chapter 4, I can say Sel really turned Chapter 4 around. Because the first couple of updates in chapter 4 were less than stellar.

 

[Moonflare]

He could be our true bro if he had complied with the request upon returning Prime

That assumes he could do it, or even that he was the one that did it. It was never certain and now even less so.

On a previous talk, he advises Akira to not open his eyes until it is done. Now, here's my question, if Akira had sex with Maya prior to this wouldn't he have erased himself regardless? As it happened so many times before, according to Maya? So why does a god even have to be involved in this?

It could be that Pareidolia knew it would happen and instead made sure that it would be Maya that would erase herself, rather than erasing Akira. Just after it's done, he muses about who would even take credit for it.

Furthermore, Pareidolia says that anyone that could bring Maya back wasn't there then. Were they sleeping? Did he hit them over the head with a frying pan? Also, if he didn't erase Maya (he only does it from inside Kaori's body), was a god always peotecting Maya from being erased when she had sex with Akira (instead erasing him?).

lots of questions.

 

[Meskal1ne]

On a previous talk, he advises Akira to not open his eyes until it is done. Now, here's my question, if Akira had sex with Maya prior to this wouldn't he have erased himself regardless? As it happened so many times before, according to Maya? So why does a god even have to be involved in this?

We can only make guesses, this theme tied up with speculations and shizotheories. I can build an answer on one of them.

1. Maya is a shrine maiden of an old god (named with letter "T"), and from the very beginning she served her god faithfully.
At some point she falls in love with Akira (who is most likely also part of the dynasty of deities) and stops believing in her god.
The old god dies, since gods in whom people do not believe cannot exist.
2. A bunch of new false gods appear and replace each other. At some point they decide to resurrect the old god, the details are not important now. Some condition must be done for the resurrection of the old god - for example, impregnate everyone or climb to the top of the hill of naked bodies, doesnot matter now.
3. The current iteration of Akira is different from previous ones - and apparently, it is best suited to fulfill this condition.
It is impossible to return Maya back to her god, especially considering the “real sensei”, she will only get in the way.

Accordingly, the easiest way - to erase her.