Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.46.0] [Selebus]

[DeanNoriko]

Sorry for double post, but...
Wtf is that, lmao. I found it and I died from the first thing "KUMON-MI IS IN ESTONIA"

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Interest list, I wonder if this is from the Lilcord. There's a few theories we definitely discussed on here, some that are simply facts and obviously some foul ones.
I adjusted the ratings to how I interpret them.

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So a few notes:

• By "Daisy" it refers to Himawari I suppose. My guess is that the theory is old, or else I don't know how they'd come up with the name Airi? Maybe during my replay it will become clear.
• I really like the "All girls are parts of Maya given form" theory as it is something I thought of myself, I don't remember if I ever mentioned it here. Everyone is talking about Maya not being real, having no personal history pre-Akira and that she does not belong. Nobody seems to think that she doesn't belong because she is the only real character, maybe aside of Akira and possible a few others. Like all of the girls are just created for the simulation that represent different parts of Maya. I don't know, I like it.
• D&D sessions being prophecies for future events is interesting. There's been this Yasu interaction that was kind of like a prophecy I guess, but much less on the nose. Has anyone looked back at those and seen any correlation to later events yet?
• The last theory in my list is clearly the worst one though, I don't know how anybody could come up with that, truly mind boggling.

 

[Vega Cifer]

Huh...wow, this update is interesting and I not even done with it. From my understanding currently, they were sent to different parallel worlds where things are different in various ways. Probably depending on actions taken and what not. This could mean the original universe has different worlds for jumping between them, and then there are so alternative universes with their own world. Maybe.

I'm inclined to believe that because each alternare world can have its own cycle of resetting from each other, and I think they all can slip as well? To different places. But this got way more whacky, with different outcomes, in what should be similar events. Of course it could just be one universe, with alternate worlds in it as well. Either way, this is getting real interesting and sci-fi.

Also wtf was that brutal Nodoka murder man...Ami really is psycho. But if she's resetting the world/is responsible, how the hell? Obviously she is aware of what Maya went through for one. So either she sent them all through that and is responsible, or she is just also keeping her memories and is abusing that shit more than Maya could ever be aware of. Wow...even more confusing cause she's firstly stabbing nodoka, but also was aware with Maya, and then with Ayane. Is she just aware of all that..

Last thing is, I guess Nodoka is completely gone now? Another one will replace her, which is sad. She was figuring the most out, but it looked as if she gave up towards the end. But this does I think mean that Maya was basically sent elsewhere, to a different world

 

[Dc345]

A tin foil hat theory for the pile: Ami said she had the inate sense to tell if somebody is a neice. Maybe Bio-Ami 's sense went off when Nodoka hugged Sensei. But since Bio-Ami isn't a neice in this time line but a daughter maybe she sensed that Nodoka was infact Sensei's daughter, thus prompting her to kill Nodoka to get rid of the competition.

 

[Yggdrasil_Frahma]

Huh...wow, this update is interesting and I not even done with it. From my understanding currently, they were sent to different parallel worlds where things are different in various ways. Probably depending on actions taken and what not. This could mean the original universe has different worlds for jumping between them, and then there are so alternative universes with their own world. Maybe.

I'm inclined to believe that because each alternare world can have its own cycle of resetting from each other, and I think they all can slip as well? To different places. But this got way more whacky, with different outcomes, in what should be similar events. Of course it could just be one universe, with alternate worlds in it as well. Either way, this is getting real interesting and sci-fi.

Also wtf was that brutal Nodoka murder man...Ami really is psycho. But if she's resetting the world/is responsible, how the hell? Obviously she is aware of what Maya went through for one. So either she sent them all through that and is responsible, or she is just also keeping her memories and is abusing that shit more than Maya could ever be aware of. Wow...even more confusing cause she's firstly stabbing nodoka, but also was aware with Maya, and then with Ayane. Is she just aware of all that..

Last thing is, I guess Nodoka is completely gone now? Another one will replace her, which is sad. She was figuring the most out, but it looked as if she gave up towards the end. But this does I think mean that Maya was basically sent elsewhere, to a different world

She just had to stop looking for answers. It was really that simple but she kept looking for answers. Luckily in the end she (and no one else) realized she needed to stop looking for answers.

 

[chikipiki]

• By "Daisy" it refers to Himawari I suppose. My guess is that the theory is old, or else I don't know how they'd come up with the name Airi? Maybe during my replay it will become clear.

I think Airi is one of the daughter names Ayane asked Sensei about. She wanted to name her daughter after a flower and wanted it to start with Ai.

 

[DeanNoriko]

One thing this update also puts into question is that, so far, we were under the assumption that all (hard) resets start at the same time, roughly, which is the start of the freshman year at Kumon-mi High.

With the Ami Happy Ending timeline, it appears that either:

• The resets can begin at an earlier point in time, e.g. before Sekai dies in the car crash
• The resets always start at the same time but the past can be different
• Ami has the ability to conjure Sekai in flesh despite her having died and manipulate others into thinking it's really her and that it's perfectly normal for her to reappear in her life

I'm pretty sure Prime Maya would have mentioned if either of the first two options ever occurred in one of her timelines, probably also that Sekai ever appeared as a living being. This gives me more reason to believe that this alternate Maya (I already forgot the nomenclature we agreed for her) > Prime Maya in terms of knowledge and experience.

Also, I'm not entirely sold on the different versions of Maya being just the same exact person at a different stage of time. Otherwise, how would Prime Maya be as shocked at seeing herself getting raped by Ami during that Halloween Scary Room event, if it happened to her in a (admittedly) distant past? Surely it would have left a mark on her and would be a crucial memory.

I just really hope Selebus doesn't trip himself over this web of time travel and timelines and alternative universes shenanigans like many authors do when attempting to incorporate such things in their stories.

 

[LoveRedHairedGirl]

I'm pretty sure Prime Maya would have mentioned if either of the first two options ever occurred in one of her timelines, probably also that Sekai ever appeared as a living being.

Maya Prime would never admit or hint at it, cuz she was too afraid to remind Sensei about his past. And we don't know (or I don't remember already, xd) if Alternative Maya Prime is afraid of it as well.

 

[barglenarglezous]

• The resets can begin at an earlier point in time, e.g. before Sekai dies in the car crash
• The resets always start at the same time but the past can be different
• Ami has the ability to conjure Sekai in flesh despite her having died and manipulate others into thinking it's really her and that it's perfectly normal for her to reappear in her life

Option 4 -- Sekai brought herself back. After all, this Sekai behaves more like the Sekai that's been haunting Akira since Toys and less like the Sekai we see in Kyoto. And the constant references to doctors and medications is a hint that Ami and Sekai are keeping Akira heavily drugged to keep him compliant.

Option 5 -- This is a parallel timeline, not an earlier/later cycle in the core timeline. In this timeline, Sekai never died, so she's present in all cycles.

I'm leaning towards Option 4, personally.

 

[Riolol]

Who do you think will be the Ch5 cover girl?

I'm thinking Yumi cos all of the chapter cover girls have been from floor 1 so far and of the remaining girls, she seems to be the most important atm, with her being involved in the happy events from the start and now becoming aware of the resets

I think Yumi is a good bet, personally I'm still waiting for something to happen to justify Sana being the cover girl for chapter 4.

 

[manjak8]

i hope its nodoka for ch 5

 

[DeanNoriko]

Who do you think will be the Ch5 cover girl?

I'm thinking Yumi cos all of the chapter cover girls have been from floor 1 so far and of the remaining girls, she seems to be the most important atm, with her being involved in the happy events from the start and now becoming aware of the resets

Chapter 5 is supposed to be the dark route, so it would make sense to center it around a character who is either integral to it, or would suffer the most because of it.
Ami would fit, but she has already been used. Sekai could be a contender.
I'm dumb, Ch6 will be the dark route.

Ultimately though, I'm not sure how significant it would be anyway. As others have pointed out, Sana hasn't had that much screen time so far, she isn't part of the RAS either.

From Selebus' point of view, I could even understand having trouble in picking one specific character for a whole chapter. Although, I have to say, so far I would actually pick Yumi over anyone like Sana, even Sekai has been more integral so far with how much we learned about her and how often she showed up.
But maybe Yumi (or Sekai) will indeed have an even bigger impact on the overall plot in Chapter 5 and she hasn't been picked for Chapter 4 for that exact reason.

 

[Yggdrasil_Frahma]

Chapter 5 is supposed to be the dark route, so it would make sense to center it around a character who is either integral to it, or would suffer the most because of it.
Ami would fit, but she has already been used. Sekai could be a contender.

Ultimately though, I'm not sure how significant it would be. As others have pointed out, Sana hasn't had that much screen time so far, she isn't part of the RAS either.

From Selebus' point of view, I could even understand having trouble in picking one specific character for a whole chapter. Although, I have to say, so far I would actually pick Yumi over anyone like Sana, even Sekai has been more integral so far with how much we learned about her and how often she showed up.
But maybe Yumi (or Sekai) will indeed have an even bigger impact on the overall plot in Chapter 5 and she hasn't been picked for Chapter 4 for that exact reason.

From where do we know Ch5 is the dark route? Or is that just a theory based on there being six slots right now?

 

[k1n5l4y3r]

I don't think it was Nodokers that was killed, I think it was Himawari. She didn't say things the way Nodoka would say. We saw how Himawari was trying to "save" Nodoka, I think that is part of it, and Ami needs Nodokers to figure something out so she is mad that Himawari is trying to interfere.

 

[DeanNoriko]

From where do we know Ch5 is the dark route? Or is that just a theory based on there being six slots right now?

Admittedly, I remembered it wrong, I thought Ch5 was the Dark Route and Chapter 6 would include the Purity Routes.

 

[Forrtress22]

it is a bug ?

 

[Riolol]

it is a bug ?
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No, it's a feature.

 

[Yggdrasil_Frahma]

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Admittedly, I remembered it wrong, I thought Ch5 was the Dark Route and Chapter 6 would include the Purity Routes.

Ah, thanks. Taking "Word of God" to a new level! Hahaha.

 

[LoveRedHairedGirl]

Who do you think will be the Ch5 cover girl?

I'm thinking Yumi cos all of the chapter cover girls have been from floor 1 so far and of the remaining girls, she seems to be the most important atm, with her being involved in the happy events from the start and now becoming aware of the resets

As much as I like Yumi and as much I want her to be the next chapter main girl... I believe it might be Makoto. Why? Well, she was in the RAS for a long time now and she didn't have a huge impact in the story so far. BUT! We should understand the logic behind the chapter covers first!



I would say chapter 2 was really Maya's chapter. Just like chapter 3 was Ayane's chapter. We can say Ami was the cover girl for chapter 1 because she was the first girl we saw and we spent a lot of time with her (but I don't remember anything at this point).
So... So why did Sana become the cover girl for chapter 4? Well... I can assume she had a lot of screen time at the beginning of the chapter.... But now most of her events are about being horny and..... and that's it. But all I can say now is... we have to wait for more events with Sana to make us all fall in love with this little ogre.

But let's forget about Sana for now and try to understand why these three girls became the cover girls. We know that all three of them can remember resets and loops. And I think they became the cover girls in the order in which they realized they were in a time loop. However, if that's the case, then the fourth girl should be Makoto, not Sana. Unless there's some other reason we don't know about.
Maybe it has something to do with who Sensei fell in love with first. But then again, Sensei did fall in love with Makoto before he fell in love with Sana, whom he hasn't even expressed his feelings for yet. But if we take the opposite idea as a starting point... For example, if they were in order based on who fell in love with Sensei first, that theory would have a better chance of being true. However, we now have a problem not only with Makoto, but also with Chika and Noriko and the other girls who love Sensei for a long time.
Of course, Selebus can show us a middle finger and tell that Sana was in love with Akira for many years now, so that's why she is here. Alas, Noriko is still a problem here. And if we include the tinfoil theory about Yumi and Akira having some sorta relationship far in the past cycles... Well, I think more and more that 4th chapter is actually Yumi's chapter, xddd

 

[barglenarglezous]

Now that Akira is out of his sadboi era, Sana's horniness is going to become a lot more relevant.

 

[Riolol]

Now that Akira is out of his sadboi era, Sana's horniness is going to become a lot more relevant.

Hooray for more off screen sex I guess