Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.48.0] [Selebus]

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Hello fellow buddies long time no see. Studies caught me for a long while and I'm still struggling with catch up with latest update (Truly impossible:>).

Anyway now a tricky question has emerged: In Where the Trees Live of Kaori's event we saw a reflection of past in the woods. But then of whom?
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My first guess was that it's reflection of Yumi and Kaori before the Accident which fits with the theme here, with Yumi on the left and Kaori on the right, each with shorter haircut compare to current one. And Kaori is eldre than Yumi
But the flutterflies circling and the attire of rightmost character gave out such strong vibe of Sekai herself and the character on the left has a black-yellow right eye that corresponds to that of Kaori while Yumi has greyer iris.
And somehow the red-black clothes the left one wearing reminds me of uniform of Touka and Tsukas? It might just be a hunch but does Tsukioka family have deeper connection to Sekai?

And let me add one thing, In event The End of the Tour (Glasswalker) of Niki we had almost same scene. This time obviously between Niki and Akira.
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(which is unsurprising at all, LiL uses tons of similar composition and intertextuality to draw fatal parallels between things)

And the question Kaori asked "What did you want to be when you were little" is another thing frequently asked and answer by some interesting figures:
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Anyone willing to answer that with a coherent theory?
 
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daagagsdgd said:
Hello fellow buddies long time no see. Studies caught me for a long while and I'm still struggling with catch up with latest update (Truly impossible:>).

Anyway now a tricky question has emerged: In Where the Trees Live of Kaori's event we saw a reflection of past in the woods. But then of whom?
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My first guess was that it's reflection of Yumi and Kaori before the Accident which fits with the theme here, with Yumi on the left and Kaori on the right, each with shorter haircut compare to current one. And Kaori is eldre than Yumi
But the flutterflies circling and the attire of rightmost character gave out such strong vibe of Sekai herself and the character on the left has a black-yellow right eye that corresponds to that of Kaori while Yumi has greyer iris.
And somehow the red-black clothes the left one wearing reminds me of uniform of Touka and Tsukas? It might just be a hunch but does Tsukioka family have deeper connection to Sekai?

And let me add one thing, In event The End of the Tour (Glasswalker) of Niki we had almost same scene. This time obviously between Niki and Akira.
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(which is unsurprising at all, LiL uses tons of similar composition and intertextuality to draw fatal parallels between things)

And the question Kaori asked "What did you want to be when you were little" is another thing frequently asked and answer by some interesting figures:
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Anyone willing to answer that with a coherent theory?
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It's an interesting theory but I'm inclined to say that the two characters are indeed supposed to reflect young Yumi and teen (pre-accident) Kaori.
First of all, because it just makes sense. And also it's the only sensible connection age-wise.

I don't see Sekai fitting in there with either Kaori (they would be further apart in age) or someone like Tsubasa (I'm not sure if it was ever established how old she is supposed to be).

Yumi's eye color irritates me a little, as it's clearly yellowish in that scene, so almost like it would have to be Kaori's right eye, but I don't see this being some kind of trick and it's her as a kid with an only marginally older Sekai. Especially since Sekai always had natural red hair. Unless they're both Kaori, just one somehow from a different timeline? I doubt it though.

The dress has been shown to have been worn by Kaori before though, I'm pretty sure.
And the butterflies are definitely a sign for Sekai, but it could be anything from showing that she is involved somehow, to Akira associating youth with his lover and abuser, to it being just a red herring.

As to the phrase, you'd have to ask the lore masters.
I could imagine that being tied to one of the popular theories of Maya not being real or something and her being created by a depressed Akira who felt alone. Or just Sekai being a clingy ghost hunting him.

Also, welcome back!
 
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daagagsdgd said:
Hello fellow buddies long time no see. Studies caught me for a long while and I'm still struggling with catch up with latest update (Truly impossible:>).

Anyway now a tricky question has emerged: In Where the Trees Live of Kaori's event we saw a reflection of past in the woods. But then of whom?
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My first guess was that it's reflection of Yumi and Kaori before the Accident which fits with the theme here, with Yumi on the left and Kaori on the right, each with shorter haircut compare to current one. And Kaori is eldre than Yumi
But the flutterflies circling and the attire of rightmost character gave out such strong vibe of Sekai herself and the character on the left has a black-yellow right eye that corresponds to that of Kaori while Yumi has greyer iris.
And somehow the red-black clothes the left one wearing reminds me of uniform of Touka and Tsukas? It might just be a hunch but does Tsukioka family have deeper connection to Sekai?

And let me add one thing, In event The End of the Tour (Glasswalker) of Niki we had almost same scene. This time obviously between Niki and Akira.
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(which is unsurprising at all, LiL uses tons of similar composition and intertextuality to draw fatal parallels between things)

And the question Kaori asked "What did you want to be when you were little" is another thing frequently asked and answer by some interesting figures:
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Anyone willing to answer that with a coherent theory?
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Those are the older and wizard versions of Kaori in "Where the Trees Lives".
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*Double Post Apologies* Apparently there are request of Grow Old. Then Die in the gallery. Majority of them of are lewd wizard requests (which I wont share because jail). But some of them do show the MC of Grow Old. Then Die which to my recollection hasn't be shown in this thread.

*Also NTR Warning*

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Addon: It looks Sel conceptualized the MC of GOTD a month before Chapter 2's end. His first appearance in the gallery was 2/6/2022.
 
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Dc345 said:
*Double Post Apologies* Apparently there are request of Grow Old. Then Die in the gallery. Majority of them of are lewd wizard requests (which I wont share because jail). But some of them do show the MC of Grow Old. Then Die which to my recollection hasn't be shown in this thread.

*Also NTR Warning*

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Addon: It looks Sel conceptualized the MC of GOTD a month before Chapter 2's end. His first appearance in the gallery was 2/6/2022.
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I don't understand what I'm looking at. Akira's twins' male half (born from either Sekai or Ami given the eyes) fucking past Ayane but in the future? :ROFLMAO: So the first NTR was from Ami with Maya, and now the second is from Ami's son with Ayane? lol

Okay, nonsense apart, at least his son has a somewhat normal face, I found that Akira always looked a bit off if compared to the girls, but the twins look the same "realism" wise to me.
 
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daagagsdgd said:
Hello fellow buddies long time no see. Studies caught me for a long while and I'm still struggling with catch up with latest update (Truly impossible:>).

Anyway now a tricky question has emerged: In Where the Trees Live of Kaori's event we saw a reflection of past in the woods. But then of whom?
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My first guess was that it's reflection of Yumi and Kaori before the Accident which fits with the theme here, with Yumi on the left and Kaori on the right, each with shorter haircut compare to current one. And Kaori is eldre than Yumi
But the flutterflies circling and the attire of rightmost character gave out such strong vibe of Sekai herself and the character on the left has a black-yellow right eye that corresponds to that of Kaori while Yumi has greyer iris.
And somehow the red-black clothes the left one wearing reminds me of uniform of Touka and Tsukas? It might just be a hunch but does Tsukioka family have deeper connection to Sekai?

And let me add one thing, In event The End of the Tour (Glasswalker) of Niki we had almost same scene. This time obviously between Niki and Akira.
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(which is unsurprising at all, LiL uses tons of similar composition and intertextuality to draw fatal parallels between things)

And the question Kaori asked "What did you want to be when you were little" is another thing frequently asked and answer by some interesting figures:
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Anyone willing to answer that with a coherent theory?
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In "The End of the Tour" Sekai imagery is used to illustrate that by recovering his good memories with Niki, Akira is inevitably also going bring back bad memories with Sekai. The repeat of the imagery in "Where the Trees Live" is used to show that Sekai is again returning in some form, this time as SeKaori. So I don't think "Where the Trees Live" is showing any real memory, it's just symbolic, hence why (as Dc345 said) it's two different versions of Kaori.

Although I don't think it's related to this event, there is indeed a very strong connection between the Tsukiokas and Sekai. Most obviously through their sakura tree:
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On Sensei's date with Touka, he saw her as Sekai while she was imitating a pose used by Tsubasa.
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And in her most recent event, Tsubasa deliberately imitated Sekai to get a reaction out of Sensei.
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As for "What did you want to be when you were little", it seems to be a Pareidolia/Sekai thing (I don't think it's worth trying to distinguish the two), who often get nostalgic for the better days of Akira's youth. I guess AmIOkay says it because she's a mishmash of Sekai, Maya, and maybe Ami in those early happy events. Edit: since you didn't include it in your post, I'll add that a very similar sentiment is expressed in Chapter 2 main event "Metal in Microwaves" by the narrator, who is probably Pareidolia since they indicate that they're in the back of Sensei's mind and this happens right after he rapes Molly.
 
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does anyone have a save file at the beginning of chapter 3? had a friend wipe his saves on accident and need a replacement asap haha
 
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Dc345 said:
*Double Post Apologies* Apparently there are request of Grow Old. Then Die in the gallery. Majority of them of are lewd wizard requests (which I wont share because jail). But some of them do show the MC of Grow Old. Then Die which to my recollection hasn't be shown in this thread.

*Also NTR Warning*

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Addon: It looks Sel conceptualized the MC of GOTD a month before Chapter 2's end. His first appearance in the gallery was 2/6/2022.
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Wow, that male character actually looks decent, although I kinda miss Akira's eyes. Also which gallery are you talking about?
 
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EggFaucet said:
does anyone have a save file at the beginning of chapter 3? had a friend wipe his saves on accident and need a replacement asap haha
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Here's a file right at the end of chapter 2 *pre-wither event chain* that launches you into chapter 3. All you need to do to go to c3 is call Kaori then skip through all the events.
 
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