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you know, with how the story is progressing with the relationships front, Im starting to suspect that the F$%6, Marry, Kill event wasnt just an cutesy little game
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Here’s my updated LiL character list as of 0.45:
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So I'm not usually a huge fan of dark-for-dark's-sake stuff. It usually bores me as much as sunshine-and-daisies fluff.
The horror and emotional degradation aspects of this game don't really do much for me--which is funny, because they're really the main esthetic thrust.
For an h-game, LiL's sex doesn't exactly launch my rocket. Just about every sex scene has elements (age, consent, etc.) that make me uncomfortable enough that I have a hard time (heh) thinking of them as actually sexy.
And the central theme of pedophilia creeps me the fuck out. (But at least he's taking it seriously and not just saying Mmmm, little boys and girls... The psychological and physical damage on both abusers and victims is treated remarkably realistically, as nearly as I can tell. Deeply unpleasant, but well done.)
But there are a few things that I think keep pulling me back:
- Sel creates complex, compelling characters who I find myself caring and wanting to find out more about. Even characters like Nodoka, who I found annoying for a long time and then really started to hate--he managed to make her three-dimensional and interesting enough that I'm still curious to see what happens with her. I want to see them all smile without crying. Especially Maya.
- I'm fascinated by the growth of the central character from a callous, completely detached a-hole who acts as if he's beamed into a standard fuck-em-all school harem game to a deeply flawed, wounded person who seems to be actively trying to do the right thing and has grown to care about all of these other, equally flawed people he's trapped with. The superficial nihilism--nothing matters, it's all a game, nothing is real, there's no way to take control--keeps showing cracks, with the MC actually struggling with complex moral issues. Mind, he fails almost every time. He's still an a-hole. But he's trying and that keeps me engaged.
- The crazy-ass lore--the various gods/users/terminals/resets/timelines/whatever--makes me want to see how it all turns out (mind, sticking the landing on a story as complicated as this one is hard as hell--just look at Lost and Game of Thrones). He's managed to tie wild metaphysical ideas to metaphors that seem like maybe they actually make sense, and I want to see if he actually knows what he's doing.
But I can completely understand washing your hands of LiL. Make sure to use lots of soap.
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Selebus announced months ago that he was taking a break in November (he traveled to Japan actually), so no December release.
.46 comes out after the New Year.
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not a dice roll but...
FUCK MARRY KILL
Me, Fire Lord Zuko and DeanNoriko.
Choose wisely.
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Btw, sorry for the off-topic but:
Since I know some of you here have played several Persona games, what would you recommend in my situation?
I played Persona 4 back in the day, like at least 15 years ago and really liked it.
I know bought Persona 4 Golden and Persona 5 Royal.
Should I indulge in my nostalgia and play through Persona 4 again or go straight to Persona 5? I understand the newer iteration has mor QoL features and just plays more smoothly. But I didn't necessarily hate the grind (though the dungeon design was kinda ass ngl), since I was a "gotta catch them all" addict when it came to collecting those cards or whatever they were, I don't even remember.
Any advice or suggestions are welcome
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The big difference in the 3 modern Personas is in how dungeon design is handled.Btw, sorry for the off-topic but:
Since I know some of you here have played several Persona games, what would you recommend in my situation?
I played Persona 4 back in the day, like at least 15 years ago and really liked it.
I know bought Persona 4 Golden and Persona 5 Royal.
Should I indulge in my nostalgia and play through Persona 4 again or go straight to Persona 5? I understand the newer iteration has mor QoL features and just plays more smoothly. But I didn't necessarily hate the grind (though the dungeon design was kinda ass ngl), since I was a "gotta catch them all" addict when it came to collecting those cards or whatever they were, I don't even remember.
Any advice or suggestions are welcome
Persona 3 has Tartarus, which is a single tower with a ton of floors, each procedurally generated (so it will change when you leave and come back). More floors unlock as story progresses.
Persona 4 has dungeons -- each story arc has an independent dungeon with a semi-randomized floor pattern tied to the part of the story you're currently on.
Persona 5 does both -- Palaces (dungeons) tied to that month's story arc (main quests) and a Tartarus-style dungeon called Mementos, which is where the side quests are handled. In Royal, Palaces are fixed-map, but Mementos is procedurally generated.
Persona 5 Royal tends to be easier than Persona 4 Golden, outside of one encounter that is artificially hard on lower difficulty settings because of how damage scaling and weaknesses work (it's actually easiest on the highest difficulty as a result).
In terms of story and characters, there's not really a wrong answer. If you like turn-based JRPGs, you're probably going to enjoy the 100 hours you sink into either one (and Persona 3 Reload, which came out this year, is also exceptional).
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marry you and kill the other two guys
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After seeing the Rin animation I have absolutely no interest in seeing any other ones. It's one thing to promise animations but it's another thing entirely to make them purposefully piss-taking
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And we're back here, the dev who hates his audience, begging them to give him more money since his shitty behaviour has cut him off from any measurable supporter growth...
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He shot himself in the foot so badly, I remember seeing posts about him malding over another h game making more than him.
Hard to support someone like that, especially financially.
His attitude is the only reason I didn't back him on patreon, nor later on subscribestar.
Edit: He's still doing that.
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Sel shitting on DarkCookie/Summertime Saga is very much justifiable. Even though Sel doesn't make anywhere near what his team brings in monthly, Sel is very consistent with Lil (which is probably his only redeeming quality). Unlike DC which hasn't released a real update in 2 years I believe. Which makes me think they're spending all their money on crack like the FNF devs.
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It's funny, actually it's fucking surreal, that the person I like the most in this screenshot is Nodoka
Praise the one true martyr in all her glory, and shame upon the one consumed by rabies and this blight in the middle.Well, it makes sense if you put it like that, but it's also naive from Selebus part. Summertime Saga has a much, much, broader appeal than LiL. And yeah, the fact that no communication would be much better than what Selebus tends to say and do from time to time, he's LiL's worst enemy.
Edit: Also because this doesn't merit its own post:
I had forgotten how in-depth Haruka's cheating scene was, and also Futaba's first handjob, but that one was just sad.
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Imagine if Kirin x Sensei turns out to be the True End:
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Nodoka might have a "Getting murdered" fetish.
Definitely interested in seeing if Sensei honors her wishes though. A Nodoka who just wants hugs and to watch Sensei (her "dad") fuck everyone, would be a nice change of pace.
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