Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.46.0] [Selebus]

[aramaug]

Spoiler: 0.46 Preview

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Very disappointing to find out that New Nodoka has kept the smirk.

I assume she deliberately got an identical copy of Chika's outfit to fuck with her, but I wonder - if she was able to remember Chika's outfit from the previous Christmas parties, wouldn't that mean she's managed to avoid a full factory reset? New Maya doesn't remember anything from the first three chapters. It would be anticlimactic (but not out of character for Selebus) if she continues acting exactly like she did pre 0.44 and nobody remembers that anything happened.

that or kyrie eleison. Although Yasu singing the battlehymm of the republic would be something else as well (I recommend the wasteland 3 version for that one, as it sounds as an actual battlehymm of people marching to war). Battle Priestess of Fallen Snow Yasu, let's go!

Edit: Random thought: Do we know that the flares aren't actually dust particles being illuminated by the first narrator?

Spoiler: A book about dragons

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Maybe everytime the flare happens it's actually about interference from the first narrator? Has someone noticed anything about this?

I don't know about lens flares, but with how often Sel has been using them particularly in chapter 4 I'd guess they're just an aesthetic choice. Since you brought up the dust, though, I'll point out that it's another one of the little clues that connect Maya and the narrator.

Spoiler: Watermelons and Violin

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Interesting:

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I've wondered about this book since we first saw it. I'm no expert, but it definitely doesn't look like a standard Koikatsu asset, in which case Selebus might have went out of his way to find one that looks like this in particular. The cover looks consistent with gold-inlaid leather, so could it be the same book that Ami talks about in "On the Count of Three", and if so, what would that even mean?

Spoiler: On the Count of Three

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The way that book was displayed sounds like a religious text. Maybe it's related to Hope or the trinity given that Saki was one of his followers (according to Yasu). Touka mentioned that the Tsukiokas have a book in their library about Yasu's god that is hundreds of years old, which could explain where Tsukasa got it. That doesn't sound like something Futaba would read, though.

 

[givemeabeer]

A random thinking of mine, but... I muted the music in this game.
Not because it's bad, I never heard any glimpse of it, but because I can't read and «listen» at the same time.

And yeah, that preview with the «despaclito» karaoke scene, make me wonder if that song appear in the game...

 

[LessonsInDissonance]

A random thinking of mine, but... I muted the music in this game.
Not because it's bad, I never heard any glimpse of it, but because I can't read and «listen» at the same time.

And yeah, that preview with the «despaclito» karaoke scene, make me wonder if that song appear in the game...

Are you //////////////////////FUCKING KIDDING ME
YOU HAVE TO PLAY WITH THE AUDIO

 

[Djfjnensks]

Really need more Tsukasa and Chinami content. Every time new version comes out its the first thing I look for.

 

[Djfjnensks]

As for the naming of Tsukasa, Tsubasa, Touka, I think its easy to remember. Tsukasa is the hot one and I don't care about the others.

 

[vehemental]

Really need more Tsukasa and Chinami content. Every time new version comes out its the first thing I look for.

Damn dawg, the things the NYPD wants to do to the CEO shooter off-camera couldn't get this out of me.

 

[LessonsInDissonance]

Really need more Tsukasa and Chinami content. Every time new version comes out its the first thing I look for.

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Tsukasa is the hot one and I don't care about the others.

based

 

[shmurfer]

Very disappointing to find out that New Nodoka has kept the smirk.

I assume she deliberately got an identical copy of Chika's outfit to fuck with her, but I wonder - if she was able to remember Chika's outfit from the previous Christmas parties, wouldn't that mean she's managed to avoid a full factory reset? New Maya doesn't remember anything from the first three chapters. It would be anticlimactic (but not out of character for Selebus) if she continues acting exactly like she did pre 0.44 and nobody remembers that anything happened.

She's still going to be 'old' nodoka until she has specific events where Akira stops her working on her old notes. She'd basically be the same Nodoka just without the Halloween memories. In fact she's probably noticed she hasn't gone to Halloween this time.

 

[givemeabeer]

Are you //////////////////////FUCKING KIDDING ME
YOU HAVE TO PLAY WITH THE AUDIO

I have the audio, but no music.
And the game's still good without it, so, why bother, eh?

 

[Dc345]

A random thinking of mine, but... I muted the music in this game.
Not because it's bad, I never heard any glimpse of it, but because I can't read and «listen» at the same time.

And yeah, that preview with the «despaclito» karaoke scene, make me wonder if that song appear in the game...

I don't think Sel could afford to put the song in the game

 

[Moonflare]

I have the audio, but no music.
And the game's still good without it, so, why bother, eh?

I mean, to each their own, I guess? I'm probably one of the most nurturing and conciliatory voices here, but even I'm struggling with this no music thing

Just imagining playing this game without "good morning" or "little bunny" is like trying to imagine eating without sense of smell.

Furthermore, it's not like every soundtrack for an event carries special meaning other than something playing in the background, but a substancial amount of them do, and at times they communicate so much it's hard to think about the event without them. Like the fireflies event with Maya, or when the same song is played again in the Yumi "cabin during the rainstorm" event. The usage of the same song again communicates things that aren't in the text.

 

[givemeabeer]

I mean, to each their own, I guess? I'm probably one of the most nurturing and conciliatory voices here, but even I'm struggling with this no music thing

Just imagining playing this game without "good morning" or "little bunny" is like trying to imagine eating without sense of smell.

There's some use of anosmia! Like knowing the true taste of fries in McDonald!

Nobody cares? Nobody care...

 

[Moonflare]

Just going to drop this here real quick.

Spoiler: Erotic game protagonist

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Also, we can all pretend like we got the shampoo so that we could help Maya in the event this happened again?

Spoiler: Erotic game protagonist

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Edit: (The following is related to the happy event "tick tock tick tock", skippable if not interested in delving into new possible clues of random obscure stuff.)

Spoiler: theory heavy from here on out

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[givemeabeer]

Since I the one who brought this up, I guess I'm the one to finish it :

Spoiler: Rin's opinion

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On another note :

[...]
Finally, the thing about the two of them making another "hope" kind of fell apart for me, because it's more like it that they just want to say god, but can't say god without saying hope. So it's actually that the both of them can make another god, and teach it to reset the world for them, meaning that they can make another iteration of Maya and having her guide the next Akira along? I mean, a strong theory right now is that Maya is a god anyway, so I guess we have another way to view this scene as well.
[...]

I have a hard time conceive the probability that Maya IS a god. I mean, of course her story about the stars «Vega and Altair» may have some mirror with Sensei and her, but... it sound to simple.
I arrive way after the battle, I'm sure of it, so, sorry for that.

 

[Moonflare]

Yet more for the "Ami knows stuff" wagon. This is from her first night with Akira (amifingered event):

Spoiler: No one can see us

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Funnily enough, one of my biggest questions for this event is: Where the hell did Maya go to sleep at?

Spoiler: No one can see us

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Maya is friends with literally no one else to the extent of sleeping at their homes. She has no other home either. Where would she go and why? Did she go to sleep at Akira's house? I don't think so, since he returns there after this. Did Ami tell her to leave? Actually, it would be more likely that she has manipulated Maya into leaving since I think Maya doesn't know that Ami knows that she knows about the two of them... Anyway, a lot of questions here too.

Lastly, I think this is the first event where we see Ami's eyes turning into "god's" eyes (out of the breed your niece segment).

 

[LessonsInDissonance]

I have a hard time conceive the probability that Maya IS a god. I mean, of course her story about the stars «Vega and Altair» may have some mirror with Sensei and her, but... it sound to simple.
I arrive way after the battle, I'm sure of it, so, sorry for that.

I've always said that gods don't exist, All it takes is for you to stop believing in them.

So if you were a LiL deity, you'd probably want to stay alive, and the way to do that is to get more followers which in turn makes you more powerful. Having only one person believe in you means that you're in the process of dying and powerless, barely hanging by the wires.

Though I might hate her, I know a lot of people like Maya. If she is indeed a deity, she would still be alive by virtue of having multiple people still believe in her prime version. She's just someone's prisoner.

 

[Moonflare]

I have a hard time conceive the probability that Maya IS a god. I mean, of course her story about the stars «Vega and Altair» may have some mirror with Sensei and her, but... it sound to simple.

Maya being a god is a theory that has gained power because of the last few updates, have you reached them? If so, it comes basically from evidence that she shouldn't/doesn't exist, her overall function being stolen from someone else, and Akira being able to fish/summon forgotten gods from the bottom of the well to serve his needs. There's obviously a lot more to say about it, I am simply trying to keep it spoiler light if you haven't catched up.

 

[givemeabeer]

Maya being a god is a theory that has gained power because of the last few updates, have you reached them? If so, it comes basically from evidence that she shouldn't/doesn't exist, her overall function being stolen from someone else, and Akira being able to fish/summon forgotten gods from the bottom of the well to serve his needs. There's obviously a lot more to say about it, I am simply trying to keep it spoiler light if you haven't catched up.

Update 0.45? Yep, I just missing the «Alexa» thing, but that's all.
About Maya, tough, that I understand she may not exist in every other dimension, and maybe she is correlated with the death of Sekai, but... well, it can tell the fact that she is an anomaly.
I mean, for all we know, the other reality where Sensei and Sekai are married, and Maya doesn't exist, can still have the reset thing. Which mean, if the reset is to punish a god (Maya) from falling in love with a mortal (Sensei), why should it appear where she's not exist?
And if it don't happen there, which is also possible, why Ami killing someone have no (?) consequences?

A lot of questions at my side, I know, and that mostly because there's to few answer by now. Or I just miss some. That's possible.

 

[barglenarglezous]

Funnily enough, one of my biggest questions for this event is: Where the hell did Maya go to sleep at?

Maya is friends with literally no one else to the extent of sleeping at their homes. She has no other home either. Where would she go and why? Did she go to sleep at Akira's house? I don't think so, since he returns there after this. Did Ami tell her to leave? Actually, it would be more likely that she has manipulated Maya into leaving since I think Maya doesn't know that Ami knows that she knows about the two of them... Anyway, a lot of questions here too.

Akira and Maya are doomed to be ships passing in the night.

Thus the following headcanon: Maya, in a moment of weakness, goes to Akira's house to get her freak on, but he never comes home. By the time he gets home, she's come to her senses and returned to the dorm.

 

[aramaug]

I think this has also been brought up before, but why is Am I Okay invoking Ayane's lustname during "tick tock tick tock"?

She also uses Ami's lust name. I assume it's just because those are the game's first two lust names (the only ones at that point?) and Sensei's brain is free associating.

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Also also, aramaug, get in here please. Remember the whole Teacher isn't Sekai thing? I noticed this random line which might be interpreted as this being Sekai after all. So, not only the whole AGAIN SHE LIVES is playing the whole time, but there's this:

Spoiler: tick tock tick tock

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Well, if it's Sekai then she's talking about the fact that he actually impregnated Ami. So it would be "be careful of making another daughter", rather than "be careful of making another dream baby". I ask you because if I recall you were vocal against T being for Teacher/Sekai.

I'm not sure what you're asking here, or if you just wanted me to comment on the Sekai/letter T thing. I personally think that both Maya and Ami are dream babies for reasons independent of this passage, and it could be interpreted to support that, but as you point out neither AmIOkay nor Sensei outright states that anyone is a dream baby.

AmIOkay doesn't just represent Sekai in this event, since Sekai is a big incest fan whereas AmIOkay disapproves.

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This is even more confused though, since refusing to have sex on her best friend's bed points to Maya, but if she was just the Maya we know, having sex with Akira wouldn't be incest no matter what bed it's on. I think Akira's mind is just jumbling a lot of things together, and AmIOkay is some combination of his thoughts regarding Maya, Sekai, and Ami here.

In regards to the girl whose name begins with the letter T, I do think that refers to Sekai, though maybe not directly and maybe not exclusively; it could be someone outside the simulation that Sekai is a reflection of or something like that. The part I've always been opposed to is the idea that the T stands for teacher - I still think it stands for something that we don't know.

Actually, there was something in the last update relevant to this. Previously, some people argued with me that Akira knew her as "Teacher" because she was an English teacher and thus used an English title, but in the alternate timeline she revealed that Akira called her Sensei, so that theory is out.

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