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I'm 100% convinced that all purity routes are locked behind green path. Game is pretty explicit in that we have to fully degrade ourselves until we are allowed to heal
I'm not super sympathetic to this perspective due to all the miscellaneous ways in which one can lock themselves out of the green path. Off the top of my head, picking 'kill Kirin' is arguably a pretty malicious/degrading action, yet it blocks off one of her events. So you need to be conscientious to stay on green path, not the opposite. I feel like the only reason Green path even exists as we know it is because of Selebus's professed completionism autism for always 100%ing a visual novel (many such cases among weebs). I expect it would also punish people treating the game more seriously / with more immersion (for example: those who accept being a bad homie instead of reloading to alter their action to avoid consequences), while rewarding primarily URM-users and completionism autists, so it wouldn't cleanly accomplish the artistic goal of forcing players to degrade themselves. That said, I definitely wouldn't be surprised if green path did end up being necessary, it just doesn't seem super likely to me right now.
 
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1. Saki is shown to be 2D while everyone else is 3D. Is this just done because in Nothing Is Beautifull they all were 2D?

2. I believe Saki is still alive due to the fact Sana asked "What is the name of sensei's mother" and not "What was the name of sensei's mother".

3. Ami really loves Akira, but does she know about her grand mother past? and does she know how she really felt about Akira? Does she hate her or is she just completely unaware?

4. (I really REALLY doubt this is even a possibility) Will sensei have a mother son reunion at all? i doubt it cuz 1 she didnt like him so why would she search him up and 2 I doubt Akira cares enough to go find her if he knew where she was.
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Do you know when Sara says that he got mad about her blackouts? I have a mostly completed draft for a post about Sana's dad (spoiler: I still think it's Nozomu) and I don't remember this.
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Edit: Erased the part about the orphanage, corrected by aramaug.
 
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1 - It probably originated from a practical desire to use the same sprite as NiB, but it seems like different worlds have different art styles. So Terminal 22 is 2D sprites on painted backgrounds and the upside down house is photograph backgrounds.

2 - According to Long Maya, Saki is dead.
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3 - Ami has mentioned "grandma" a couple of times but has never expressed any strong feelings about her. Ami also wrote all of the church trivia questions, including the one that asks about Saki.
About your second question:

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Yasu knows about Shota because she can somehow sense that he's still alive in other planes, so it's plausible she could do the same thing with Saki.
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But in the specific case of the trivia questions, she said she was receiving the answers straight from her god.
If that wasn't the case, either Saki or Miu would have gone to rescue Ami from the orphanage before Akira did (which took a while).
Ami was never actually in an orphanage, she and Akira were living together immediately after the accident. In the imouto-off she mentions an orphanage but that's part of a roleplay.
 

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Ami was never actually in an orphanage, she and Akira were living together immediately after the accident. In the imouto-off she mentions an orphanage but that's part of a roleplay.
Where does it say they were living together immediately after the accident?
 

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I'm not super sympathetic to this perspective due to all the miscellaneous ways in which one can lock themselves out of the green path. Off the top of my head, picking 'kill Kirin' is arguably a pretty malicious/degrading action, yet it blocks off one of her events. So you need to be conscientious to stay on green path, not the opposite. I feel like the only reason Green path even exists as we know it is because of Selebus's professed completionism autism for always 100%ing a visual novel (many such cases among weebs). I expect it would also punish people treating the game more seriously / with more immersion (for example: those who accept being a bad homie instead of reloading to alter their action to avoid consequences), while rewarding primarily URM-users and completionism autists, so it wouldn't cleanly accomplish the artistic goal of forcing players to degrade themselves. That said, I definitely wouldn't be surprised if green path did end up being necessary, it just doesn't seem super likely to me right now.
I'm honestly terrified that another choice we made earlier in the game or the order we played certain events will lock us out of the green path later. The good homie/bad homie thing was ridiculous, you have to leave schadenfreude sitting there for quite a while to stay green. I really hope that doesn't happen again.
 
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I'm honestly terrified that another choice we made earlier in the game or the order we played certain events will lock us out of the green path later. The good homie/bad homie thing was ridiculous, you have to leave schadenfreude sitting there for quite a while to stay green. I really hope that doesn't happen again.
Given Selebus's professed love of harsh consequences and surprising players with them, I WOULD expect more stuff like good/bad homie, but... in the past 4 years he really just hasn't done it again? I don't really get it. I wonder if the complexity of writing/programming branches supersedes his love of trolling players. IDK
 
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Where does it say they were living together immediately after the accident?
I don't know if it's outright stated, but I'm assuming it based on Ami's memories in "Worry Not, The Mason Jar" in which she took care of Akira when he was catatonic after the accident. I doubt Akira would have been in any shape to get her from an orphanage during that period.

Edit: That period was also the subject of her poem "My Life With You".
 
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I'm honestly terrified that another choice we made earlier in the game or the order we played certain events will lock us out of the green path later. The good homie/bad homie thing was ridiculous, you have to leave schadenfreude sitting there for quite a while to stay green. I really hope that doesn't happen again.
I don’t like using URM if I don’t have to since I’m an idiot, but at least if things go fully tits up, we can always use it to fix whatever bullshit is flung at us by the artistic manchild writing our favorite/most loathed VN.
 
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I'm not super sympathetic to this perspective due to all the miscellaneous ways in which one can lock themselves out of the green path. Off the top of my head, picking 'kill Kirin' is arguably a pretty malicious/degrading action, yet it blocks off one of her events. So you need to be conscientious to stay on green path, not the opposite. I feel like the only reason Green path even exists as we know it is because of Selebus's professed completionism autism for always 100%ing a visual novel (many such cases among weebs). I expect it would also punish people treating the game more seriously / with more immersion (for example: those who accept being a bad homie instead of reloading to alter their action to avoid consequences), while rewarding primarily URM-users and completionism autists, so it wouldn't cleanly accomplish the artistic goal of forcing players to degrade themselves. That said, I definitely wouldn't be surprised if green path did end up being necessary, it just doesn't seem super likely to me right now.
Considering how impossible the puzzles are without a guide, as Sel, as an author lowkey kinda mandates you google his game, I don't think an ability to fail (to be a good person really, or try to be in some small way) is a concern of his. I'm willing to go so far to say that even though I am green path (because I believe this, not because I want to be) the fact that I'm a good homie (by accident) may scrub me from being able to get the good endings
 

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"Heeeeey, Miku. How was your penis?" NICE JOB, MAKOTO! HAHAHAHAHA!
Futa Miku confirmed.

WHAT! cousin!?
I forgot that reveal was THAT early. I thought it was somewhere in the Chapter 3.

HOLY FUCK! The game literally closed! Okay that's a new one! I guess don't say no to cheering Maya up twice or the game will literally shut down.
Oh, I remember that part. It was fucking amazing. Especially on my old pc, when I had to wait for 2 minutes for game to open.

And Wakana overdosing on something to hide her own pain... Well, at least she's not dead... I hope. And now I got annoyed at myself because I had a very slight chuckle, great. This isn't funny.
She wanted to die, so she died. Logic! xddd

Is the mc like 6.4 or something? Tsuneyo is tall but he is like half a foot taller.
Well, Sensei is adult male, so it is obvious he is way taller than his students.

scared ejaculation!
Best way to cum, you know? Getting not only the semen out of you, but shit as well. (Not in literal way)

Why did Io lose her position in your tierlist?..
 

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I only got through two events this morning, got to sleep and work ya know that crappy adult stuff. Moonie might have mentioned this before but if you read that first one with Ami as she knows what's going on then it's kinda frightening. I started thinking during it, what if she killed sensei or somehow broke him right before this loop. Scary girl.
 
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I only got through two events this morning, got to sleep and work ya know that crappy adult stuff. Moonie might have mentioned this before but if you read that first one with Ami as she knows what's going on then it's kinda frightening. I started thinking during it, what if she killed sensei or somehow broke him right before this loop. Scary girl.
Oh, did you just start another playthrough too? I know you mentioned it. I’ve only gotten through the first day, and next up is the first sleepover.

But yeah, doing it all over again while knowing stuff about Ami makes everything hit different.
 
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