Kikurage

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After catching up with the updates i have to say again this VN is awesome.
I just completed chapter 1. The Yumi scene at the hotel was really cute. I did not expect that.
I don't even care for the porn anymore lol
The story wont let me go
Keep up the good work Selebus!
Though I think the Rin kiss scene after she got "dumped" felt a bit rushed? Idk
 

S - Boy

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Sep 14, 2020
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Oh my sweet summer child, this is 100% a pirate site. It just so happens that some developers realize that all publicity is good publicity, so it's better to cooperate (and thus retain some influence and control) than to fight it and accomplish nothing.

If Selebus did not post here this thread would continue to exist, and the main difference would be that the "patrons only" build would likely get posted a day or so after the release instead of waiting for the public release. But, since Selebus is involved in F95, he owns the thread and thus can protect the exclusivity he promised his paying patrons. This is acceptable to the (largely piratical) community, because having him here offers other value-- we know he reads our feedback, he answers questions, etc.

In addition to some modest level of control, the developer also benefits because (a) the feedback here is a bit more broad-based than he will get on Discord or Patreon, where nearly 100% of the feedback is written by serious fans who will only have nice things to say (otherwise they wouldn't be there), and (b) it gets more eyeballs onto the game. (I follow many games on SS and Patreon, and in most of the cases I found them here first, played the pirated version, and decided I liked it enough to support the creator. I'm sure others do this as well.)
Thanks, now I know the true story and how it works
My mind is enlightened, thank you Sensei, buddy.

This is not true. I own this thread but have absolutely no control over what links and updates are posted here. The mods are in control of that.
Ah wait,
Now that's depressing.
 
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Kikurage

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That’s not correct, though. Again, I am not in charge of any download that gets posted or updated in this thread. It’s registered to me in name only. Even I would have to contact the mods if I wanted to post an update here.
I feel like I've seen this answer posted for like the millionth time on the last 10 pages of this thread.
What are you even discussing?

Just enjoy the game, losers.
 

S - Boy

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Sep 14, 2020
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That’s not correct, though. Again, I am not in charge of any download that gets posted or updated in this thread. It’s registered to me in name only. Even I would have to contact the mods if I wanted to post an update here.
If this is the same case for all the developers on f95 then, I kinda feel bad for them rn.
But do you personally get bothered by this ?
 

Deleted member 1697433

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If this is the same case for all the developers on f95 then, I kinda feel bad for them rn.
But do you personally get bothered by this ?
Oh, definitely. There's just not really anything I can do about it, unfortunately.

I didn't think it would affect me so much prior to releasing anything worth being pirated since I used to pirate everything back in the day. Hell, I've been literally arrested for stealing before. But it's hard not being bothered by people begging for someone else to fork over $5 and leak a game for them because they don't want to wait two weeks. Those people bother me more than the ones actually downloading them.

I have a responsibility as a creator to defend my consumers and my product. And while I know there are plenty of people who would continue to donate to me even if there was no difference between a Patreon and public release, it doesn't change the principle of people simply taking things that other people are using their hard earned money to buy- especially after I've demonstrated the exact weight of that impact on several occasions.

Piracy is inevitable in today's day and age and is the key reason that so many professionally-made visual novels release at a loss. I'm fortunate enough to have made something that so many people love, but I'd still be completely irresponsible for not informing and educating everyone about the damages piracy can cause.

I work extremely hard on this game. In just the last year, I've put out 700k words and 30+ hours of content without help from anyone. There is no exclusive gameplay that only subscribers have access to. There are no additional transactions or bonuses I make people pay for to get a full experience. All I do is ask for $5 in exchange for early access to something that everyone else is going to get in two weeks anyway. And even that much is enough to make some people rage or complain, apparently. I'd be a liar if I said that didn't bother me.
 

El_Zane_123

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Oct 22, 2020
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After catching up with the updates i have to say again this VN is awesome.
I just completed chapter 1. The Yumi scene at the hotel was really cute. I did not expect that.
I don't even care for the porn anymore lol
The story wont let me go
Keep up the good work Selebus!
Though I think the Rin kiss scene after she got "dumped" felt a bit rushed? Idk
Yeah, this game here is probs the worst adult game in existence. And yet I'm hooked like a junkie.
Send halp (But not from someone like Yumi, I'm fine, tyvm and please don't rip my balls off).
 

vehemental

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Now i wonder what might be in there (am at .14's end).
For what i know till now and what i think her agenda is you could see her as the antagonist. But that depends on the definition or an point of view.
Maybe in the future, if there is even any.
I don't know what this means either.

Anyway here's the changelog for the latest release that I'm not sure is public but very well should be. There is some heat here that anyone curious about Maya is really missing, especially coming right after the Noriko update.

0.15.0 Part 1 will launch on 4/16 at 12:00 AM CST for all $5 patrons
- 45k Words
- 400+ Images
- 16 New Events
- 4 Maya Events
- 4 Yumi Events
- 4 Chika Events
- 2 Yuki Events
- 2 Sara Events
- 3 New Animations (Maki/Kirin/Ami)
- 2 New Picture Messages
- 2 New Characters (Tsubasa & Tsukasa)
- New Music
- New Generic Events
- Fixes/Changes for Older Content
 

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And really, ya got arrested ?
Story time?
It's got a very anticlimactic ending but from ages 13-17, I was a hardcore kleptomaniac. I stole everything I could get my hands on, even shit I didn't want, just because I could. I was really good at it. And the rush that came with stealing was what I got high off of when all of my friends spent their free time doing heroin. Eventually, I started teaching them how to do it as well. Nothing huge, just convenience stores and things like that. Then one night, one of those friends and I went into Wawa and got caught stealing a couple energy drinks. Cops came, cuffed us and took us to holding, and we were out a few hours later. Such a funny way for it to all come to an end, too, since by that point I had stolen thousands of dollars in shit from the mall and pawn shops. Haven't stolen a single thing since.

And this all happened like a week before my 18th birthday, so I'm really glad it ended the way it did.
 

JohnnyRazer

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Sep 15, 2020
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Oh, definitely. There's just not really anything I can do about it, unfortunately.

I didn't think it would affect me so much prior to releasing anything worth being pirated since I used to pirate everything back in the day. Hell, I've been literally arrested for stealing before. But it's hard not being bothered by people begging for someone else to fork over $5 and leak a game for them because they don't want to wait two weeks. Those people bother me more than the ones actually downloading them.

I have a responsibility as a creator to defend my consumers and my product. And while I know there are plenty of people who would continue to donate to me even if there was no difference between a Patreon and public release, it doesn't change the principle of people simply taking things that other people are using their hard earned money to buy- especially after I've demonstrated the exact weight of that impact on several occasions.

Piracy is inevitable in today's day and age and is the key reason that so many professionally-made visual novels release at a loss. I'm fortunate enough to have made something that so many people love, but I'd still be completely irresponsible for not informing and educating everyone about the damages piracy can cause.

I work extremely hard on this game. In just the last year, I've put out 700k words and 30+ hours of content without help from anyone. There is no exclusive gameplay that only subscribers have access to. There are no additional transactions or bonuses I make people pay for to get a full experience. All I do is ask for $5 in exchange for early access to something that everyone else is going to get in two weeks anyway. And even that much is enough to make some people rage or complain, apparently. I'd be a liar if I said that didn't bother me.
Wow that was really unexpected! I always imagined you as quite a law-abiding dude, but now I suddenly feel a lot more sympathetic with you. Not to mention that your reasoning is very sensible too.

I mean, I too was a hardcore pirate a few years ago. That mostly changed for now, but I still occasionally pirate some things. Despite that, I mostly agree with you, though I'm really not into this moralistic fuckery, like 'duh stealing is baaad', nor I'm trying to justify it with some bullshit like that dude a few pages before. I just pirate because it's good for me, plain and simple. And I buy in three cases: when it's more convenient for me than pirating (like games on Steam); when the price is affordable in my opinion and when I really like the product and want to thank the developer from the bottom of my rotten heart. Well, that's just my modus operandi and I'm satisfied with it.

And uhhhh, I guess your thoughts finally got me to made my mind :oops: I'll toss you a coin starting next month, because you really deserve gratitude, because the story you're creating is one of a few a things in the world that lies closest to my soul and my likings.
 

User690690

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Jan 24, 2019
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Wow that was really unexpected! I always imagined you as quite a law-abiding dude, but now I suddenly feel a lot more sympathetic with you. Not to mention that your reasoning is very sensible too.

I mean, I too was a hardcore pirate a few years ago.

And uhhhh, I guess your thoughts finally got me to made my mind :oops: I'll toss you a coin starting next month, because you really deserve gratitude, because the story you're creating is one of a few a things in the world that lies closest to my soul and my likings.
I'm as hardcore a pirate as they get but I have a personal policy of buying things worth buying. Almost all the games I pirate are bought on steam sales and same with good albums. I'll never buy movies though, overpriced in my opinion. Porn games though, case-by-case basis though. I haven't found many games with plentiful content and frequent updates, most games have one or the other but not both.

I just tossed several coins to Selebus, can confirm it's worth doing. There aren't many things that I get more pleasure out of than supporting good people/businesses/ideas.
 

rbs305

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Jun 17, 2020
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It's got a very anticlimactic ending but from ages 13-17, I was a hardcore kleptomaniac. I stole everything I could get my hands on, even shit I didn't want, just because I could. I was really good at it. And the rush that came with stealing was what I got high off of when all of my friends spent their free time doing heroin. Eventually, I started teaching them how to do it as well. Nothing huge, just convenience stores and things like that. Then one night, one of those friends and I went into Wawa and got caught stealing a couple energy drinks. Cops came, cuffed us and took us to holding, and we were out a few hours later. Such a funny way for it to all come to an end, too, since by that point I had stolen thousands of dollars in shit from the mall and pawn shops. Haven't stolen a single thing since.

And this all happened like a week before my 18th birthday, so I'm really glad it ended the way it did.
Did you steal TVs and sell them off?
 
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