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Don't really get the whole wakana thing coming out of nowhere, felt like it's been building up to it for quite awhile now.
yes but now we have a molly consolation prize I guess.You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
Give it time. This isn't gonna be a happy ending for Rin.You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
Meanwhile, some of us are thinking "only 3, seems like it should be more"Also, the medical room had like a dozen pill bottles marked "Watabe". That certainly seems like a sign of substance abuse.
Edit: Okay, now that I check it, it wasn't actually "like a dozen", it was three (out of five present), my bad. But that still seems like a lot. so the point stands.
Indeed, it was most definitely a move of desperation.I'll also add -- Rin went from pining for Chika to absolutely fixated on Otoha in the span of about 3 chords. Otoha is right to be worried about being a rebound, because that's a VERY whip-lashy bounce.
There was buildup, she went for one girl, she got rejected, she became super depressed, again, and then she saw Otoha as a replacement target. This was not the same as what happened to get her fixated on Chika, she's now desperate to get rid of the feelings that got shot down once before by replacing them with new ones and she latched onto Otoha out of that desperation.I think my biggest problem with the update was how whiplashy Rin was, and how out of character she was, without any deviations in between. She went from 10 to 0 in an instant. Even in Denpa games, there's a buildup to that extremely erratic character break. Sayori, who starts out just late, needing to bum for food, to completely disregarding her appearance because she can't even sleep dealing with her own mental illness. Even in Denpa games, there's a sequence. To completely sequence break them is completely out of character for the genre itself. Kinda like what happened with Osako. There was nothing to lead to those events. It was erratic and contrived like I said. Even for the denpa formula, it was jarring.
I am in no way a superfan, I only get called one because I have yet to say anything bad, but that's entirely because I have yet to see anything that needs to be brought up because it was bad. I would have chimed in against the update myself if there was actually anything of concern, I am absolutely not afraid to tell Selebus he did something wrong.I know you're a superfan of sorts, but I'd still rather Sel's input on this![]()
That's exactly what I'm thinking, that rejection seems to have done more harm than we thought and some of us already thought it did a lot. She's now desperate to be loved and that latched her onto Otoha more than it did Chika since that was a normal crush. Then Molly comes in at the absolute worst possible time and Rin snaps at her.Yeah, I understand you, dude, and I'm a little concerned myself. But I still think that with Rin there were some more subtle clues, which we may not have picked on the first sight. People in this thread already pointed some out. As for Osako, that's harder to justify, but I think it'll be explained in the next updates (but in my opinion too that wasn't a very good decision)
Anyway, we can't look into Selebus's head, so we can't be sure if it was a misstep or part of greater plan, like, I dunno, making the pace intentionally erratic to emphasize the decay of the world.
So far Selebus hasn't betrayed my expectations and I want to hope and believe that he knows what he's doing.
Indeed, some of us apparently just didn't notice the signs, which to be fair aren't that easy to pick up on, that's why most attempts in real life that are actually carried out make it to being carried out before someone can intervene, because nobody notices that the person is that far gone until they are either dead or have attempted to become that way and failed.Is this in reference toYou don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
Wakana's only been telegraphing that since her first appearance.
That's just it, you didn't notice, most people probably didn't, which is understandable since people who intend to go through with something like this don't necessarily telegraph it in a way everyone will notice.Yep, there was just no direct premise for it in recent events, at least I haven't noticed one. That's why it was a little strange and out of place for me.
I would agree with this, she sees Rin is desperate, she sees Rin isn't likely to focus only on her. That's one reason why she gets weirded out at first. She's definitely doing this as a preventative measure, not out of actual feelings for Rin. To be honest, I would do the same if only as a stop gap measure to keep the person from doing harm to themselves or others while I try to find her help.You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
Indeed, the writing wasn't exactly on the wall, but there were signs. I mean, come on, jello stew is an instant red flag to me, but may just be a symptom of a lack of cooking skill to other people.
To be fair, not many do or they do notice and attribute it to another thing entirely.Yeah, I read that earlier and I agree with your words, that's why I said that "I" didn't notice. I'm not the most observant person, and two weeks/months gap is enough for me to forget some details.
All I want to say, is that it's too early to jump to conclusions and say "bad writing", "genius planning" etc. after one or two "controversial" updates. We don't have the full picture to judge, future updates will show us who was right.
Exactly, her mind is already stretched thin dealing with her attempt to get rid of lingering feelings for Chika, her second confession, brooding over what could happen if she fails again, stuff like that. Not to defend Rin, that was absolutely a shitty move and I find myself disappointed, not in Selebus, but in Rin herself for acting this way, but Molly chose the absolute worst possible moment to come in with that. Her timing definitely contributed to the reaction she got from Rin, but Rin still went way too far. Still, I can't say I'm to the point I was with player Sensei doing what he did with Miku, I was absolutely furious at him doing that, but I can't say the same this time about Rin. She made a mistake and she'll live to regret it later.Rin behaving as she did was not out of character at all. With how hard she was pining for Otoha and how much she was concentrating on a confession, all exacerbated by her mental issues, she probably quite literally doesn't have the mental wherewithal to pay attention to anything other than that. Also, suffering from something in the past doesn't actually mean you'll automatically be super-empathetic to people suffering from the same thing now. So yeah, Rin was fairly shitty to Molly in this update and in a few before it, that doesn't mean that her character was ruined, it just means she is a flawed human being who can hurt others, even if not on purpose.
I'm not too sure about being bipolar, but depression DOES have angry outbursts and irritability listed as symptoms that can trigger even over small things. This is and always has been a possibility with Rin and we are just now seeing that possibility happen.That was totally in character for Rin man... she always comes off as adhd with a mix of mild bipolar which is very whiplashy. extreme highs and extreme lows with no real inbetween for bipolar, poor judgement and impulsive actions being common for those with adhd.
Also, the medical room had like a dozen pill bottles marked "Watabe". That certainly seems like a sign of substance abuse.
Edit: Okay, now that I check it, it wasn't actually "like a dozen", it was three (out of five present), my bad. But that still seems like a lot. so the point stands.
I have more than that, all prescribed, though none for anything she might need to treat.Meanwhile, some of us are thinking "only 3, seems like it should be more"
3 Maintenance meds is not a lot, at all. Especially if someone is nurodivergent. Hell, at one point in my life I was up to 8.
Being rejected by Otoha might have ended in a similar fashion to Osako x Wakana, just saying. That girl was at extreme levels of desperation with having been rejected once already by Chika and her depression doesn't help, especially with it having led to a history of self harm.You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
Probably more of a 'Koikatsu is very limited' thing than anything else. I see similarities, but look at her thighs just below the bottom orange stripe on her jacket, your picture doesn't have side pockets, but her pants do.yes but now we have a molly consolation prize I guess.
ANYWAY
lets talk about the real issues here people
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did selebus do this on purpose because miku is self conscious about her thighs and doesn't want sensei looking at them anymore so he would look at makoto more?
HOPEfully, this girl needs all the help she can get. I just hope she doesn't fall to the Denpa genre DDLC style before then.Give it time. This isn't gonna be a happy ending for Rin.
Because she's weird like that, remember, this is the girl who came into the game with haikus left and right to Wakana's chagrin, mostly of a sexually explicit nature.soooo....
why does nodoka have to figure out what kind of familial relationship kirin and sensei have for her short stories when kirin already calls him daddy
LMAO
Big F for our eccentric main heroine, critically hit and failed saving throw.Mollywobbles, as I've come to call her sad variant, deserved better. Poor girl.
It is entirely possible and we aren't entirely sure how the resets work. Makoto didn't actually die, she almost did, but she hadn't hit the ground yet by the end of that event before things got reset moments later. The thing is, if a character is already dead when a reset happens, we don't know if they are included in the reset or if that death excludes them from being reset and, if the latter, we don't know how it affects the other people being reset given we do know some of them have some degree of memories from the previous cycle. Then there's how it would affect the two that remember everything, Maya and player Sensei, how would it affect them knowing they witnessed either the actual death of one of the girls or the aftermath of it only for that very same girl to be standing there alive and well or for the girl to have disappeared entirely. We don't know, but I have a VERY bad feeling we will find out eventually on all of this and what we find won't be positive. This is genuinely giving me that feeling in my gut when I know something bad is about to happen. I am extremely uneasy around the prospect of potential, or worse confirmed, character death. Selebus has definitely been playing with my emotions on an extreme level over the last several updates.Can people actually die in this game? I mean,And even if someone actually end up dying, won't she comeback after the next world reset?You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
No, if this had been a normal break up or rejection, it would have been a little iffy, but Rin's attempts after being rejected by Chika are anything but normal. Something is very very wrong with that girl starting after the first beach event and that puts her in a very dangerous position.Rin, Otoha, Chika:
Rin immediately finding a new object to idealize post-Chika does not strike me as un-realistic.
What does is her magnanimous attitude towards Chika.
Rin appears to have Borderline Personality Disorder, which contains a pattern of idealization and devaluation.
Chika's rejection would spur contempt directed toward Chika, not just Rin herself.
I dont blame the story for not showing this, or other nasty realities of the various mental conditions
the rest of the cast has. Many of those characters would be despicable.
As an aside; many of the girls seem to have BPD and there is a noted (ultimately tragic and destructive) attraction between BPD women and narcissists (such as Sensei).
Wakana:
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The update:
I agree with most of the criticisms and yet it is also true that this is one of the best updates.
Why? Because there is so much story content and not all that boring sex stuff.
(mostly kidding... its the lack of grinding)
The big picture:
I have to give Sel alot of credit for keeping the quality as high as it is with SO many characters.
It is not going to be as good as it would have been with less, but nobody has been flanderized yet.
Ultimately though, it is more or less being hampered by the medium itself and the expectations of great
length and quantity of content (just like my cock)
versus a tight and concise story.
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Keeping it focused on that and the surrounding plot would have been ideal but the train has already left the station.
(And its still a pretty cool train, at the moment)
NO, YOU WILL NOT TAKE THIS FROM ME!Probably more of a 'Koikatsu is very limited' thing than anything else. I see similarities, but look at her thighs just below the bottom orange stripe on her jacket, your picture doesn't have side pockets, but her pants do.
Happier I could see, but at this point in time, I can in no way see a happy ending. That might changee, I just don't have enough evidence to support it being a possibility at this time. As it looks now, and that's mostly because we are on a route that isn't going to be happy as pretty much confirmed by Selebus, it doesn't look like happy is possible.I love this game because the girls are so well wrtten and full of personality but I hate this game because god damn it hurts to to keep seeing them getting hurt.
I know this is a denpa game and all but I am still holding out hope that there could be a happy ending for everyone somehow.
Hey, he did do a Raid ad, he could do one for JNCO Jeans. As for the appearance, true.NO, YOU WILL NOT TAKE THIS FROM ME!
I am so hopping there is a JNCO Jeans advertisement in the future done by selebus
also there are different styles of JNCO Jeans the only trademark look is they look like a denim dress on each leg. and maybe the company logo somewhere but not all the time.
miku seduced sensei with all her talk about rubbing thighs and then when she realized it worked she now covers them up with the baggiest most ridiculous pair of jeans invented so she doesn't Clam Jam her best friend.
bro I don't mean it in a bad way, you literally respond to every post though in massive commentsI am in no way a superfan
Sel has talked in the past about his plans. Iirc, you have the opening segement (where we are now), the dark path where everything goes poorly, and then once you've failed miserably and hurt everyone around you, you will unlock the purity paths, which is an indepth path for each girl with a happier ending. He also said that the purity path, iirc, are non-exclusive. With what we know now, it seems like it might be some kind of seperate reset for each girl. Then, potentially when you've done each path, you get to a true ending.I love this game because the girls are so well wrtten and full of personality but I hate this game because god damn it hurts to to keep seeing them getting hurt.
I know this is a denpa game and all but I am still holding out hope that there could be a happy ending for everyone somehow.