Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.46.0] [Selebus]

[BillyMcBobson]

Nah I'm actually fuming I was playing a censored version the whole time, I'm like 5 hours in ffs - don't suppose there's an uncensored android port of the latest version around

 

[Vidaura]

Nah I'm actually fuming I was playing a censored version the whole time, I'm like 5 hours in ffs - don't suppose there's an uncensored android port of the latest version around

Game is too large for true Android ports. You'll need to use JoiPlay to run the regular version.

 

[foxyboi123]

Hello fellows! Lessons in Love is truely a great game, I played probably already 100 of hours and I am currently one version prior to the rework update, so probably 0.23. I just have one really big request to you guys, due to me being unable to play the game on my home tower pc right now (i have only my laptop with me) I dont have my save file with me. Well I really could just play through the beginning but I seriously dont have enough time here to play through all of it again and I dont want to cheat my way through either...

Is there some cultured friend who could post me a save file from around 0.24? I just wanted to be ready to play the new updates as I will still be away from my tower for around 6 months.
I hope someone can help me and thanks for reading!

Best regards!
foxboi

 

[bobvilla123]

If your takeaway is that Maya is a bitch for no reason, you skipped a _lot_ of story. Her relationship with Sensei is probably the most interesting (and feels-y) part of the whole game.

I suppose you could call manipulating and controlling you interesting (and feelsy) if you twist it just right. The conversation with Noriko tells us everything we need to know about her. There is no story outside that that matters. Maya can die in a housefire. I won't ever change my mind about that. I'm sorry Maya-simps, it just wont happen.

It is the best part of the game, solely because is the most developed character arc so far.

Maya for 80% of the game: Fuck off, I dont like you
Maya for 20% of the game: secretly betrayed you, kept you from a woman you actually love, *and* trapped in a cycle because... [insert generic bullshit about mysterious here]

Yeah, totally the most developed, over Chika and her little sister.

 

[iebb03]

If your takeaway is that Maya is a bitch for no reason, you skipped a _lot_ of story. Her relationship with Sensei is probably the most interesting (and feels-y) part of the whole game.

It is the best part of the game, solely because is the most developed character arc so far. it's incredibly satisfying seeing her go from the calm, collected, seemingly all kowing character that hates you to the just as lost as you, vulnerable girl that actually loves you but can't show her true feelings. She's best girl (at least until Kaori gets more content)

 

[akselx]

There is no story outside that that matters.

Wha? We don't even know the story yet.

Maya for 20% of the game: secretly betrayed you,

Where are you getting all of those cool stories from?

kept you from a woman you actually love,

You mean Ami's mom?

*and* trapped in a cycle because... [insert generic bullshit about mysterious here]

Hello, she's trapped in there too. For all we know, that's Sensei's fault.

Yeah, totally the most developed, over Chika and her little sister.

That's fine, totally a matter of personal taste, but you're inventing stuff we know nothing about yet.

 

[akselx]

Literally a scene between Maya and Noriko that explains it all. It's like y'all just skip the parts that make Maya as bad as the MC.

This conversation explains jack, it designed to be vague and suggestive, like everything in this game. It's like you just skip the rest of the game that equally vaguely hints at Maya's circumstances, possible dangers of forcing Sensei to remember stuff from his past, supposed damage Noriko's would have done to his fragile psyche back then and alleged damage her involvement did to Sensei in the past cycles.

We're not even clear on whatever what they were talking about were happening outside of time loops, in a "real world" (which again, we don't know if even a thing) or in some alternative timeline. This conversation even suggests that Noriko might know something "meta" but somehow unaware of time loops. It clarifies almost nothing and just adds questions.

I get that you like Nikki, so do I and there's certainly nothing wrong with disliking Maya, but you just zeroed in on this scene like it explains shit to us, when, I remind you, we still know nothing about story, aside from bits and pieces.

 

[Castelier]

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ah ok thanks. I have one more thing want to ask. i donwloaded the compressed version and didnt realize that is censored version so i will download the uncensored one now. Will my previous save files work on new version?

 

[akselx]

It seems like you skipped all the content relating to this.

How much of the game did YOU skip if missed all of hints on Sensei's feelings for Ami's mother (that groomed him), him feeling inadequate and inferior towards his brother because of it (i'm sure being molested and maybe fucked by his wife also contributed)? This was hinted at almost from the beginning of the game, even before remake.

It would be a real shame if Sel hadn't slipped Maya standing there looking disapprovingly at them about to kiss.
>looking disapprovingly

Uh-huh. This is something you project straight from your imagination.

Seriously. I get that you're hard simping for Maya, but she's not some innocent bystander.

I'm simply pointing out that we barely know anything about the story and the dynamics of those two characters.

Edit.

Niki. Your 'old fiance', according to the wiki

Did you read wiki instead of playing the game? Also, this may change, but as of now she's a side character, which we know won't be getting their own endings. This right there should tell you how close she is to being a "love of his life".

 

[akselx]

This has fuck all to do with Maya is a manipulative bitch thats kept Niki and Noriko (and who knows who else) away from him. Stay on topic.

I am. You are just ignoring the fact that we don't actually know what happened and rely solely on Noriko's words, how she percieved what happened. In a world where, need I remind you, perception and memories are highly unreliable.

 

[akselx]

Maya herself tells you when Noriko is introduced. She literally screamsget out, get out you fucking cunt. While in class. Did you not read anything? Maya and Noriko have an entire dialogue about this. Maya confirms it. We know exactly what happened: Maya made choices for the Sensei. Maya manipulates the Sensei through the entire game. That you refuse to understand it isn't my fault. Maya is just as trash as Sensei is.

You literally ignored everything else I laid out in previous posts. You don't need to justify your hate for Maya by projecting conclusions you made up in your mind, based on rather incomplete set of facts in a setting where perception and memories are unreliable. You've already shown how little you understand.

 

[D3D3762667537515]

ah ok thanks. I have one more thing want to ask. i donwloaded the compressed version and didnt realize that is censored version so i will download the uncensored one now. Will my previous save files work on new version?

Yes, the base game is the same.
Only some parts of the content have changed in the dialogues and scenes between versions, so saves are compatible.
The problem is all the lore and H stuff you've missed.

 

[akselx]

None of the simping

You keep accusing me of simping while I simply try to be careful with swiping judgments about what happens when we lack proper context, when even a nature of setting still in question. Did any of that actually happened? Are anybody other than Sensei even real?

Maya has made multiple choices for the Sensei.

Which Sensei? Was he the same Sensei we know, or already someone else?

For all we know she's going to keep him trapped until all the competition disappears.

Keep who trapped? We don't even know how often (if ever, before this cycle) the "real" Sensei inhabited this body in previous cycles. She herself clearly can't tell. What we do know is that she's trapped herself, is afraid of getting a "factory reset" and want to continue through cycles with this version of Sensei, while being content staying away from him and watch him fuck other girls.

The facts are Maya knows what's going on

She doesn't.

and has controlled

She didn't.

what the Sensei wants a single time.

Does he know? Which Sensei? We haven't seen any of those "single times", however many were there.

Maya isn't any better than he is. She's a pretty shitty person.

Based on what again? Noriko's words about her "puppetering" Sensei, whatever this actually means? That she "took him away", whatever this means? This, again, might change, but so far we haven't seen her groom or assault anyone.
You simply trying to justify you bias against her.

 

[Castelier]

Yes, the base game is the same.
Only some parts of the content have changed in the dialogues and scenes between versions, so saves are compatible.
The problem is all the lore and H stuff you've missed.

so if i unlock the sex with ayane and apply it to new version it wont show that scene? Example the missionary one

 

[Boomboxthegreat]

The facts are Maya knows what's going on

Jumping in really quick to say that Maya has said she is afraid of what comes next because no other Sensei has made it this far and has no idea how things will play out from here. She has a vague idea of what's going on, but to imply she has more knowledge than that or that she's controlling anything at this point is insane. We don't have the facts. I'm torn between Maya and Noriko at this point, the truth could very well be neither as well. Both of them seem like good people, Noriko might be a bit insane, but I can overlook it since everything else about her is alright. The only character I really hate is Kirin and unless something big comes out that will never change, but she really just seems like a psychopath. Anyway, I'm getting off track. Point is the game isn't even a quarter done, we're far away from getting any real answers about the story.

 

[akselx]

Maya knows, at least marginally, whats going on.

At this point, we know as much as her. Only thing she knows is Sensei's past and she cant talk about it without him malfunctioning.

We know those things to be true.

We know absolutely nothing about why, how and when this happened. For some reason you take Noriko's words at face value, while ignoring what Maya said about her reasons for doing it and refusing Noriko's accusation that she was the one responsible for his choice to walk away from sisters.

She manipulates the Sensei from the moment the game begins.

She stays away from him. She doesn't even change her usual behavior model when she realised that this Sensei, in fact IS the Sensei.

You can try to do some more mental gymnastics

Listen to yourself. That's you. Not only you're conjuring motives from this air, you straight up making shit up now.

She did it.

She did what. What. All we have a short a vague conversation, from which you selectively ignoring parts that don't fit in your headcanon.

And has told you this isnt the first cycle. Which means shes been doing this for a long time. Which means she's been doing this to one sensei or another for ages.

Been doing what. What, again. Apart from trying to keep Sensei away from her and watching him go to town on every woman over and over. All this vague stuff Noriko's accuses her of relates to a time before time loops.
Or does it? Like i've been trying to tell you this whole time, we know jack.

Making her a shitty person. Exactly like the sensei.

Again, how? She did none of the stalking, grooming, assaulting. Hell, we don't even know if Sensei is the one in control most of the times weird and shitty things happen.

All of this is just you trying to fit a cube into a triangle shaped hole, while ignoring angles that don't fit and accusing anyone else of simping.

 

[akselx]

This tells us you're simping. She's watched this enough times that shes seen people disappear. We *don't* know as much as she does.

I specificly pointed out that the only thing she seems to know more about than Sensei at this moment is their past. At least from what we know now.

She's watched this enough times that shes seen people disappear.

And this relevant how? Are you trying to pin the blame for this on her for some reason, when it's clearly established that she's has no control over this and is herself at risk of the same fate?

Keep going, you'll totally convince us Maya isn't a shit person, if only we just don't read anything.

Well, it clear, judging by how selectively you reply, that you don't actually read the text, skip most of it, leave the stuff that validates your hateboner and take the rest from wiki.

I'll, once again, remind you that we know next to nothing. What did Maya meant by saying Noriko's role was over? What role? Was it to help Sensei grow up, a word (and a theme) frequently being brought up here and there.

Does this all relate to Amiokay (assuming it is Maya or some variation of her, which she somewhat confirms by calling Maya we know a "better version of her") calling herself an "honorary angel"? Noriko straight up said that they (she and Niki) were angels back then. Is she being metaphorical? The song often playing when she speaks literally called "We were angels".

We don't know jack. All of those things related and answers can potentially change our perspective on the events of the game.

By zeroing in (due to your bias) on Maya as culprit, you completely ignoring Ami. She the only character, besides Maya, that appear somewhat lucid, albeit very weird, during Happy Scenes. She's also shown to be awake during latest reset, where every other character, including Maya, were, presumably asleep.

Shove you weird hateboner for Maya up where it can't affect your judgment. We aren't even half done with the game and we still know very little.

 

[Riolol]

It is the best part of the game, solely because is the most developed character arc so far. it's incredibly satisfying seeing her go from the calm, collected, seemingly all kowing character that hates you to the just as lost as you, vulnerable girl that actually loves you but can't show her true feelings. She's best girl (at least until Kaori gets more content)

Yes, Kaori is the best

 

[D3D3762667537515]

so if i unlock the sex with ayane and apply it to new version it wont show that scene? Example the missionary one

Yes, you should be able to see the animated cutscene without problem.

 

[akselx]

Hey, friend, I'm back. Let's revisit some of the things you've said. I hope that this time you won't deflect or ignore arguments that are inconvenient for you.

The conversation with Noriko tells us everything we need to know about her.

You conveniently ignore the part where she says that walking away from sisters was his choice. Twice. I already brought this point up and you just ignored it.

Maya for 20% of the game: secretly betrayed you,

Literally a scene between Maya and Noriko that explains it all.

Where exactly an indication of "secret betrayal" there? Her reasons: to protect Sensei from horrible memories induced by Noriko. Does she has a valid reason for saying this? We don't know, but leaving this out is disingenuous of you at best. Also, to reiterate: according to her it was Sensei's choice to go away.

kept you from a woman you actually love,

Niki. Your 'old fiance', according to the wiki.

This is where I pointed out that there's another person being hinted for that role.
You (what a surprise!) completely ignored (and deflected) my answer, because it shows you don't actually played the game, just skipped around.
It makes those statements...

So... Have you even played the game? It seems like you skipped all the content relating to this.

Did you not read anything?

...extra ironic.

It's ok to like her, just stop pretending she isn't just as manipulative as the MC is.

it's like y'all just skip the parts that make Maya as bad as the MC.

That you refuse to understand it isn't my fault. Maya is just as trash as Sensei is.

Maya manipulates the Sensei through the entire game.

She's a pretty shitty person.

Maya isn't any better than he is.

Making her a shitty person. Exactly like the sensei.

You still haven't elaborated on how is she just as shitty and manipulative as mc. I pointed out that she never assaulted or groomed anyone and Noriko's accusation are pretty vague and are refused (some) by Maya. Others are open to interpretation as we don't know what actually happened.
I said:

I am. You are just ignoring the fact that we don't actually know what happened and rely solely on Noriko's words, how she percieved what happened. In a world where, need I remind you, perception and memories are highly unreliable.

Your answer:

Maya herself tells you when Noriko is introduced.

Tells what? The only thing she clearly communicates that she hates Noriko. Whatever its varanted or a simple rivalry (both?) we don't know.

She literally screamsget out, get out you fucking cunt. While in class. Did you not read anything?

How is that a reposte to what I said? I said we don't know what actually happened, we only have Noriko's words vs Maya's. You counter this with "bUt MaYa sCreaMed aT heR, and In a CLasSroom too!"

Maya and Noriko have an entire dialogue about this.

From which you only take Noriko's words from.

Maya is a shit person. Her actions make her a shit person. Actions she chose to do. It's not a hateboner, its a simple fact: Maya is a shit person. You'll continue to rage post of course, long pointless diatribes that excuse what she's done, but it wont prove you're not a simp. Thanks for coming to this TED Talk.

None of the simping you've done has changed the simple fact that Maya has made multiple choices for the Sensei. Niki and Noriko are two of them,

This is were you do a factory reset and just go back to previous points, ignoring my counter-arguments. Again: Noriko words vs Maya. At least adreess what Maya says.

For all we know she's going to keep him trapped until all the competition disappears. The facts are Maya knows what's going on and has controlled the situation without even asking what the Sensei wants a single time.

You're ignoring the basic facts: Maya knows, at least marginally, whats going on. Maya kept the Sensei away from people. We know those things to be true.

She manipulates the Sensei from the moment the game begins.

This is where you show you bias again. This and the fact that you just skip dialog and instead take info from wiki, because this braindead take completely ignores all of those scenes (scary house, recent reset) that shows us she's really not sure what's going on and definitely not in control. Also, again, ignoring Maya's side of things, only Noriko's. If i was doing a drinking game, I would've died from alcohol poisoning by now.

You can try to do some more mental gymnastics

The irony here is thick and rich with nutrients.

to justify it using 'vague' or 'mysterious' arguments.

Yes, those are definitely my arguments. Glad to see you have such amazing reading and comprehending capabilities.

There is no story outside that that matters.

Very definitive and absurd statement when we aren't even halfway through the game.

It's not a hateboner

Maya can die in a housefire. I won't ever change my mind about that. I'm sorry Maya-simps, it just wont happen.

Are you sure about it?

Maya for 80% of the game: Fuck off, I dont like you

I'm starting to think that's the real underlying issue here.

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