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I still think the Ayane Makoto presidency would be better and it would be fucking hilarious. Smooth Jazz would be banned, Ayane would mandate that Sensei could fuck her on anybody's bed at any given moment and she would have the funds to finish her cloning machine. The only downside is child marriage would probably become legal and there would be a million Senseis running around Kumon-mi.
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It's not a big deal. I just thought this one user was better than that. Feels bad.
welp there goes the neighborhood...a bit of a bad time to return to this thread for now.
bye for now, i'm gonna re enter the abyss known as my workplace
bye for now, i'm gonna re enter the abyss known as my workplace
It's just the kind of thing that's saddening to see in practice. I imagine people don't ACTUALLY want to be swayed by their base emotions like this. Like, you don't want to befriend a malicious serial killer just because they're nice to you, and you don't want to dislike... this is a harder example to give purely for rhetorical reasons, but you don't want to fail to recognize the beggar in a street is a Buddha. Imagine a scenario where one is stuck in the middle of nowhere and you have to call for help; pleasant associates may not come while the assholish friend does. That kind of thing. In a LiL context, we don't want to like Ami because she presents herself as a super-niece and writes flowery poetry when in reality she is extremely self-centered and malicious (as also reflected by her "honest" poetry, which is thick and dark); we don't want to dislike Maya because she's vitriolic to us at the start when in reality she is the most devoted partner imaginable. There is a LOT of benefit to seeing the truth of a person / matter regardless of one has a positive or negative experience with them. This isn't to say I specifically am a great person who should be befriended, but it is kind of dispiriting to be reminded of how effective clown masks are - that social relationships can so often be reduced to a meter where "make interactions pleasant = be beloved, make interactions unpleasant = be hated," and that the people around us can be manipulated so easily. (We can also observe this in how Selebus was far more beloved here in the era when he wore that uncannily enthusiastic mask(?) in his initial Patreon posts).Yeah I enjoy reading your posts, especially the shitposts
re: people disliking it when you are mean/insulting, isn't that natural?
Also while we're on the topic, I'm curious - roughly how old are you, what do you do for a living, and how did you achieve such a high level in that rare skill known as media literacy? Also, why did you change your mind on defending the game's flaws?
To keep it even, I'm <>, work as a <>, and the last question doesn't apply to me cos my media literacy level is -69 uwu (deleted original to preserve anonymity)
For my own part, although vehemental and some others have said some fairly vicious things I don't take personal offense or hold it against them. Certainly, I would not go so far as to say that their poor reaction to exaggerated condescension means "they are not worth reading" or "their opinion is not at the baseline level of value." I do not evaluate the character of others based on how mad and insulting they are in the moment. Despite all they've said: Vehemental has an acute mind and are most likely good at Elden Ring, Bingoogus's boisterous personality is charming, Moonflare is fairly thoughtful on a variety of subjects and has interesting takes... Riolol so far has just been kind of mean but I maintain optimism as to their greater character. And of, course, there is Selebus, who I am obliging by continuing to post even as he watches, or maybe doesn't. (Also, you endorsed the progress mod! Don't laugh react to vehemental when it is DEVELOPER APPROVED to use progress mod! Maybe ban people the moment you see "hints" on the screenshots, eh? Also, smh, reading F95 on your trip, don't do that to yourself.) Anyway, there's a phrase in Brazil that goes like "fight all day, emerge as friends in the morning." Perhaps one intention here is to see if they hold a grudge for the rest of their lives. It would be VERY neat if e.g. Bingoogus remains pretty insulting after a few years. I have to imagine that like, due to the ignore, over time they would forget the details of my Sensei Quest posting, and then just vaguely remember "that guy sucks," and act based on that. Which could be cool to experience. It's all very novel. (Of course, right now I am deploying "clinical dry autistic" personality, so if that one earns as much ire as "pretentious overlord" personality, then that's fair too. Though I'm not as sympathetic to disliking long posts for being long as I am for disliking insulting and condescending posts.)
"Media literacy" is kind of a joke in the current climate so I don't want to respond seriously at risk of sounding smug or condescending which is 100% guaranteed to result in the ire of a reading audience. But in terms of getting more out of what one reads I think it is beneficial to read a lot, care a lot, and think a lot. Creation is kind of an endless cycle of old content being absorbed and new content being spat out; a familiarity with Little Busters, Higurashi, Cross Channel, and so on make many aspects of LiL more clear (if you are fond of Akira's character development then you will surely delight in Taichi's depiction in Cross Channel). If you read a lot then you will be able to tell when an author is breaking established norms, what is purposeful, what is skillful, and so on. Common patterns for specific themes etc. Selebus's own genius was birthed in part by watching like a thousand anime and a hundred VNs. You can see this in his writing style which constantly injects references to all the stuff he has read, though one needs to be extremely erudite to notice ALL of the references, from Horimiya's egg time (a joint project with Wonder Egg), to FF14 skill names like 'sacred soil' and 'hallowed ground' being deployed, and so on; the overt Subahibi nods are too surface level to be worth considering here.
Secondly is caring a lot. This means not just consuming but paying attention to what you are consuming, and being invested in getting the most out of it. "Paying attention" sounds simple on the surface but is actually much more nuanced than you may imagine. First of all, in the modern era there is always the temptation to have a stream or TV show up on a second monitor. If one gets bored there is also a temptation to skim (note the ENORMOUS number of reviews which mention holding CTRL the moment a scene is uninteresting to them). In the case of books I think barely anyone is reading books anymore (not even Selebus!) so probably not meaningful to talk about them here. But all things considered actually paying attention to what one reads is difficult. Over time one is liable to enter a kind of flow state where they just skim the surface of words without understanding them or ever pausing to think; this is how one can finish a very blatant mystery novel without ever solving the mystery, for example, or miss otherwise major details. It's good to constantly challenge oneself and make sure you are paying attention instead of skimming. Something I like to do is quiz myself on details like "what was the scene I just read about? what was that line saying?" etc, because with some intellectual honesty one may realize that even such simple questions can be surprisingly hard to answer if one was skimming in the moment. Taking the time to re-read in these cases is very valuable.
"Being invested in getting the most out of something" is abstract so allow me to explain that as well. It benefits us, not the author, to try to maximize value from media. We want to enjoy everything as much as possible. An investment in this goes a long way to fully understanding media as one looks at something from every possible angle to maximize enjoyment. Wittgenstein wrote it like this:
I think most will encounter something which "moderately bores them" or is otherwise unpleasant and stop there. Case closed, right? But It is beneficial FOR OUR OWN SAKE to keep re-reading the poem, looking at it from different angles, rereading it, and so on, until eventually we can smile and declare "This is grand!" There is a goldmine of value to be extracted from media that slips us by if we are not paying attention and invested in finding it. We all know the sorrow of sharing some amazing media with someone who completely writes it off over something comparatively small, like, let's say sharing LiL with someone who drops it near the start because they got bored of affection grinding. This is a totally fair experience to have and a fair reason for dropping it, but think of all the fucking gold they're missing, right? It would be to their own benefit to keep moving the poem about to look for more value. And yes I'm using LiL as an example there for dramatic irony. Essentially, you generally want to look at media from every angle to find the best angle, not stop at the first angle you see. (I think posters like Moonflare are interesting in how they stare VERY intently at a single angle, deriving much meaning from it, but are inflexible when it comes to looking for another angle.)
BTW, a symptom of caring about media is being invested in the process of creation; if you find yourself looking up the storyboard artists of an anime, or the scriptwriters of movies, etc, you are on the write track. Through understanding the process of creation and who is creating our understanding and appreciation for media grows. As for myself, I have written several unpublished, private books just to better understand the mind of an author. It is for this reason I can give sympathetic smiles when people repeatedly ask Selebus "why didn't you make X character do Y?" and he can only say "I can't!". Although this is no grand conclusion, it does not take much experience or awareness of the process of creation to determine that authors end up having characters branch out in their head like independent beings who speak and act on their own as we simply narrate the result. To "just have a character do X" would be a violation of their autonomy most authors would strive to avoid; the questions here likely are unaware that it is precisely stories where authors treat characters like dolls to play which they would end up disliking for their shallowness. P.S. that allegory was deployed purposefully.
Finally, is thinking a lot. This sounds pretentious on the face of it so I will allow a moment to pause and sneer. Ok, moving on. The most important thing of all is to never stop thinking. Philosophy comes from the Greek words philos (love) and sophia (wisdom), meaning "a love for wisdom." It is through a love for wisdom (in some senses: a devotion to finding the truth) that we are encouraged to never stop thinking. We can say in many cases philosophy is merely continuing to think about questions we asked as children before discarding: what is a man, what does it mean to live, why are we here, etc. The key is to never stop thinking. This applies to media as well. There is forever a temptation to write something off as soon as we reach a conclusion, satisfied with the answer we have found - "ah, this boss is really hard and I keep dying, it must be unfair. case closed." or "Ah, this poem was dull on a first read, it must suck. case closed" Etc. Shallow thinking so often lets us reach immediate, but incorrect, conclusions, and we want not to be fooled by them. One's media comprehension will be greatly diminished if one always accepts easy answers.
Anyway, that's a lot of scattered thoughts, but perhaps some might be useful. In the end trying to engage with media on this level is only important for those who devote themselves to media; as for myself, it's my job (partially) but also I don't do anything all day but read books and F95 so there's not much else to do but try to do it as faithfully as I can. Goethe stated that it was the eternal feminine that draws us up high, but I would posit that media itself draws us up high if we allow it.
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i hope yumi gets her tits out soon
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I've been so used to seeing him as a Selebus parody account that this never crossed my mind, but looking through his posts again I'm starting to think you're right. Or I'm just too easily convinced, who knows.
Sellybussy if you're reading this, please add more Maya sex scenes, thanks.
Yeah, it slipped me by for a surprisingly long time since there was someone on the discord who also copied his profile icon like that. Funnily in response to that he said: "I guess this is just the kind of thing I have to deal with now" or something, only to in reality have done the same thing himself already. Weird guy am I right?
It's kind of curious because he really is just screaming "This is me, I'm Selebus" yet he remains so disguised. I wonder if thinks people are stupid for not noticing. Or I wonder if he got cocky and feels disappointed people know now. Of course, I don't blame anyone for not noticing my alt, since I don't use the same PFP on it and openly express my identity.
Truly our evolutionary history continues to weigh us down forever.re: people taking things at face value, yeah I agree with you that it'd be better for it to not be the case but in the end it is the status quo because it is pragmatic. If you take the biological perspective, this is a byproduct of the human species evolving to survive in environments where quick, low-effort decisions based on superficial facts tend to lead to good outcomes more often than not (which is exactly what evolution optimizes for)
re: media literacy, thanks for sharing your thoughts. I remember reading a factoid that humans tend to perform better in pretty much anything when they are being intentional about it rather than just mindlessly going with the flow, which seems to align with what you're saying. Personally, I find it hard to muster up the willpower to do that though. At least when I'm reading classics, I can justify it on the basis that "this is a work which is widely regarded as being worth the effort of properly digesting" but when it comes to random shit on the internet, I just can't do that
I'm curious: have you ever considered making a visual novel of your own? Imo writing is the main obstacle (renders are mainly a matter of putting in the time to get them lookin good) but you seem to have got that covered
"Mustering up the willpower" is pretty rough indeed, especially when we're all on a biological time limit and are GOING TO FUCKING DIE ONE DAY!!!!!!!!!! We have to really choose what we do with our time wisely, which is why right now I'm choosing to spend mine with those I cherish above all else. I think, indeed, just out of practicality we will need to pick our battles with media and deploy full literary analysis only on those which earn it or have good reputations as you say. I think the one thing though is that it is often good to acknowledge one's personality responsibility in these cases and hold off being too critical. For example, I chose not to read John Galt's like 200 fucking page radio speech in Atlas Shrugged, but I acknowledge that was a failing of my patience and investment moreso than I decry the very idea of having a 200 page radio speech. It's like playing a game on easy mode then criticizing it for being easy: we make the beds we lie in. That said, this is just a personal philosophy, not an objectively correct way of life which I would lambast others for not following; again, it's ourselves who serve to benefit by uplifting media. This is just something we're doing for fun and enrichment BEFORE WE FUCKING DIE!!!! AAAAAAAHHHH!!!!
I'm fine writing books. A whole game is a lot of extra work, though as you say it would mostly just be a time dump. Selebus has experienced for himself how tedious making visuals to match text is (and to my understanding feels no small annoyance when people care more about said visuals than his divine prose - quit complaining lads, if he added animations to sex scenes then they would distract from the text itself which is what really matters!). To say nothing of the game elements themselves, which we can imagine takes him countless hours to craft and hone to perfection. Just a lotta work.
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Gorge yourself on all my Yumis! We got happy Yumis, sad Yumis, cute Yumis, horny Yumis, terrified Yumis, fucked-out-of-her-mind Yumis! Yummy Yumis!
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I was expecting a 15 inch cock attached to Yumi. But this is 10x better
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Hahaha... i dunno what it is man but futa Yumi just doesn't click in my head, despite her combative attitude and tomboy aesthetic she just doesn't work as a futa for me, she's a 100% vagina-only woman to me. This isn't to say a futa version wouldn't be hot, but it would feel more like cosplay than alt-universe to me. I can't even gel with her wearing a strap-on, just doesn't click, she straight as an arrow and i cannot see her pegging a dude... if she's in the dominant position, she's riding cowboy, not thrusting into someone.
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Noooo I clicked to say "I'm saving myself for in-game Yumi" but the reply opened all the pictures! Curse you, Bayle! I mean F95Zone!
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Oh no! Oh... what a shame... all these Yumis fell out... what a tragedy... so sad... *ziiiip*
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Honestly I think it's not really NTR for the girls that are fucking Sensei to fuck each other or other senseis, since he doesn't give a shit, and neither do most people. However, A Life of Prizes had those really weird scenes with the girls fucking randoms and Chinami becoming a porn star or whatever it was that might just do it. Again, it is something that doesn't really happen, but it's so weird, forced and random, even more so than other eldritch shit that happens in the game imo that it might just earn the tag. I'd personally be against it because I wouldn't find the game if that was the case, and I'd hate for people to lose out on such an experience over some extremely minor, avoidable and practically non canon scenes, but I am dreading with how much Selebus loves making us despair sometimes that he'll just do it in the future for the hell of it, especially with that damn boy band lurking around the girls a second time, Sana's weird fantasy and some other pointers.
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This image got me replaying that scene again... she is so god damn fucking cute so many fucking times in that scene... so cute it hurts...
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Learned something cool today, though it's probably a back somewhere 500 pages ago.
Replaying A Place That Can Only Exist in Our Minds, found this little gem. On both first and second playthroughs, I thought this was a reference to Sensei cutting off Nikki and Noriko. Chapter 2 had Maya making a LOT of fuss about the Nakayamas being dangerous to Sensei. Hell, even De'Skel thought so back in March:
Overall, not really pertinent to current day metaknowledge, but one of those neat little easter eggs that keep me replaying scenes I haven't watched in months/years.
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Replaying A Place That Can Only Exist in Our Minds, found this little gem. On both first and second playthroughs, I thought this was a reference to Sensei cutting off Nikki and Noriko. Chapter 2 had Maya making a LOT of fuss about the Nakayamas being dangerous to Sensei. Hell, even De'Skel thought so back in March:
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Overall, not really pertinent to current day metaknowledge, but one of those neat little easter eggs that keep me replaying scenes I haven't watched in months/years.
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I may be wrong but i think Sekai died before Akira meet Maya, so i think its still Niki. But also it may be weird that Maya had that hate level with Niki
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Maya's referencing Noriko in that dialogue though. That's how she references Noriko at that point in time.
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Also, Maya's rival is and always will be Noriko, that's because she loses by default against Niki and Sekai. She knows about them, but Akira's allegiance to her was never tested, that's Maya's greatest fear.
She knows that she's a replacement for Sekai, as in, she only has a place because Sekai is dead. And she also knows that Niki would win if Akira had her in his life, that's why she's terrified to the point of making Akira not even mention her name to her (and probably why she had a hand in making sure they stayed apart).
That's of course original Maya, Maya Prime wins against both Sekai and Niki, multiple times at that (including last update version of episcopalis). But that's also maybe due to the fact that our Akira is a product of the current cycle, and thus, to him, Maya Prime is his first love sort of, even if he recovers his memories as time goes on, her impression on him as he "woke up" makes him see his own past in a different way from if he remembered things from the start.
On a minor note, True Sekai doesn't seem to have known Maya, and I think Ghost Sekai's hatred of her is born from the same place as Ami's, Maya took their place on the cycles by accident. From that point of view, it is possible that they have met, if Maya's existence somehow involved her going back into a past where she didn't exist and changing things to what they are now. But yeah, there's not enough at the moment to support this much further. Niki seems to know Maya though, and Ami recalls a playdate with some girl. Imo those are probably references to the timeline change from when Maya inserted herself into the past (supported by the fact Maya can't recall her own parents), but we'll have to wait and see.
Edit: Added images.
Edit2: Mind you, when Noriko shows up, the real foreshadowing is Ami knowing the exact same about it being a corruption of the timeline. (or maybe it wasn't but retcon works I guess)
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