Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.47.0] [Selebus]

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elricsecret

elricsecret

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Guys.
Come closer.

I caught up on the latest update and gathered all my notes.
I am on full nodaka mode.
I took a day off from work just for this.
I solved it.

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Explaining terminal 22-23-24.
Akira is Nozomu in "real" world(%100),
Sunflower baby with "T" eyes.. Himawari.
Explaining EVERYTHING
but most importantly, explaining why Ayane kills janitors! (seriously)
----------------------------------
Be ready for a long ride.

I put all of them under one spoiler tag because they need to be read in order to make sense.

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And Selebus if you are reading, I really enjoyed the game very much.
Please don't assassinate me for revealing the secrets


I still wanted to explain

How the world of 0.44 and 0.46 aren't same world.
0.44 world factory resetted. 0.46 is after many loops. A same world where akira never fought black orb in the end of sensei quest.
Hope doesnt save ayane and yumi. and makato just pops.

And how new narrator is sekai. Trojan Nao freed sekai from 3 gods control now she is taking over.

And why tsubasa pushing his girls to akira, tsubasa's foursome stories are real under control of pareidolia.
Malvin(pareidolia) was feeding spork(hope) via getting tsubasa gangbanged.
she is trying to save her daughters from same fate.

And many more but I have reached the photo upload limit and I doubt anybody read..
so maybe another day.
I need a nap before I start talking to plants.
Peace out, homies.
 
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elricsecret said:
Guys.
Come closer.

I caught up on the latest update and gathered all my notes.
I am on full nodaka mode.
I took a day off from work just for this.
I solved it.

----------------------------------
Explaining terminal 22-23-24.
Akira is Nozomu in "real" world(%100),
Sunflower baby with "T" eyes.. Himawari.
Explaining EVERYTHING
but most importantly, explaining why Ayane kills janitors! (seriously)
----------------------------------
Be ready for a long ride.

I put all of them under one spoiler tag because they need to be read in order to make sense.

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And Selebus if you are reading, I really enjoyed the game very much.
Please don't assassinate me for revealing the secrets


I still wanted to explain

How the world of 0.44 and 0.46 aren't same world.
0.44 world factory resetted. 0.46 is after many loops. A same world where akira never fought black orb in the end of sensei quest.
Hope doesnt save ayane and yumi. and makato just pops.

And how new narrator is sekai. Trojan Nao freed sekai from 3 gods control now she is taking over.

And why tsubasa pushing his girls to akira, tsubasa's foursome stories are real under control of pareidolia.
Malvin(pareidolia) was feeding spork(hope) via getting tsubasa gangbanged.
she is trying to save her daughters from same fate.

And many more but I have reached the photo upload limit and I doubt anybody read..
so maybe another day.
I need a nap before I start talking to plants.
Peace out, homies.
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//////////////////////Did you come up with all of this yourself?
 
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lolzmandude

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I... I wanted to come back and continue since there's been two updates since last time I played but... when just a normal visiting event just going to the city street to see Yumi...
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I... it's just.. a normal repeatable event but the dread is already seeping into me... I'm going to regret picking this game back up I can feel it. the correct thing for me to do is to delete it and forget this game even existed.
I hate it, I hate it so much. but I need to see if there's anything just good and nice. please
 
Rincon

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lolzmandude said:
I... I wanted to come back and continue since there's been two updates since last time I played but... when just a normal visiting event just going to the city street to see Yumi...
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I... it's just.. a normal repeatable event but the dread is already seeping into me... I'm going to regret picking this game back up I can feel it. the correct thing for me to do is to delete it and forget this game even existed.
I hate it, I hate it so much. but I need to see if there's anything just good and nice. please
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Lessons in Love having something good and nice? Apparently it only gets worse as we go further, so good luck with that.
 
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elricsecret said:
Guys.
Come closer.

I caught up on the latest update and gathered all my notes.
I am on full nodaka mode.
I took a day off from work just for this.
I solved it.

----------------------------------
Explaining terminal 22-23-24.
Akira is Nozomu in "real" world(%100),
Sunflower baby with "T" eyes.. Himawari.
Explaining EVERYTHING
but most importantly, explaining why Ayane kills janitors! (seriously)
----------------------------------
Be ready for a long ride.

I put all of them under one spoiler tag because they need to be read in order to make sense.

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And Selebus if you are reading, I really enjoyed the game very much.
Please don't assassinate me for revealing the secrets


I still wanted to explain

How the world of 0.44 and 0.46 aren't same world.
0.44 world factory resetted. 0.46 is after many loops. A same world where akira never fought black orb in the end of sensei quest.
Hope doesnt save ayane and yumi. and makato just pops.

And how new narrator is sekai. Trojan Nao freed sekai from 3 gods control now she is taking over.

And why tsubasa pushing his girls to akira, tsubasa's foursome stories are real under control of pareidolia.
Malvin(pareidolia) was feeding spork(hope) via getting tsubasa gangbanged.
she is trying to save her daughters from same fate.

And many more but I have reached the photo upload limit and I doubt anybody read..
so maybe another day.
I need a nap before I start talking to plants.
Peace out, homies.
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Just to say, since I didn't digest all of it (I will give thought later today, you can be sure of it), that, logically, if we take the «computer» metaphor, terminal 1, or zero, should be the core. Like an OS.
So, if terminal 24 infect the terminal 23, it gonna be via the terminal 22 or below.
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Now, if you have read the spoiler, and you should have to, imagine «Windows desktop» as the terminal 24 and «Win32» terminal 23.

Of course, that metaphor didn't work if we say that, «terminals», are exactly what they say they are, and so, they're all equal. But as your theory.

Also, just for those who don't understand why I said terminal 1, or zero, should be the core, that's just computer engineering logic. There's no negative number in that domain.

PS: I just realize something... if we say there a nearly illimited amount of terminal above the one we play, then, as the 23, we're closer to the bottom than them. And so, if we want to destroy the «gods», or those above, we should go down. Not up.
 
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elricsecret said:
Guys.
Come closer.

I caught up on the latest update and gathered all my notes.
I am on full nodaka mode.
I took a day off from work just for this.
I solved it.

----------------------------------
Explaining terminal 22-23-24.
Akira is Nozomu in "real" world(%100),
Sunflower baby with "T" eyes.. Himawari.
Explaining EVERYTHING
but most importantly, explaining why Ayane kills janitors! (seriously)
----------------------------------
Be ready for a long ride.

I put all of them under one spoiler tag because they need to be read in order to make sense.

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And Selebus if you are reading, I really enjoyed the game very much.
Please don't assassinate me for revealing the secrets


I still wanted to explain

How the world of 0.44 and 0.46 aren't same world.
0.44 world factory resetted. 0.46 is after many loops. A same world where akira never fought black orb in the end of sensei quest.
Hope doesnt save ayane and yumi. and makato just pops.

And how new narrator is sekai. Trojan Nao freed sekai from 3 gods control now she is taking over.

And why tsubasa pushing his girls to akira, tsubasa's foursome stories are real under control of pareidolia.
Malvin(pareidolia) was feeding spork(hope) via getting tsubasa gangbanged.
she is trying to save her daughters from same fate.

And many more but I have reached the photo upload limit and I doubt anybody read..
so maybe another day.
I need a nap before I start talking to plants.
Peace out, homies.
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Welp, greeting to you lore master Nodoka Mk2. It's been a long time (if ever has) since I've read an all-encompassing theory building of LiL. I won't take it without a grain of salt, though. Thus I will try my best to give some ideas worth discussing, I will refrain from drawing any conclusion here:

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That's all for now. FYI I haven't made much progress on game recently so anything I pointed out here could be wrong so I'm not criticizing or whatsoever just want to have further discuss.
 
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Antosha

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elricsecret said:
Guys.
Come closer.

I caught up on the latest update and gathered all my notes.
I am on full nodaka mode.
I took a day off from work just for this.
I solved it.

----------------------------------
Explaining terminal 22-23-24.
Akira is Nozomu in "real" world(%100),
Sunflower baby with "T" eyes.. Himawari.
Explaining EVERYTHING
but most importantly, explaining why Ayane kills janitors! (seriously)
----------------------------------
Be ready for a long ride.

I put all of them under one spoiler tag because they need to be read in order to make sense.

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

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And Selebus if you are reading, I really enjoyed the game very much.
Please don't assassinate me for revealing the secrets


I still wanted to explain

How the world of 0.44 and 0.46 aren't same world.
0.44 world factory resetted. 0.46 is after many loops. A same world where akira never fought black orb in the end of sensei quest.
Hope doesnt save ayane and yumi. and makato just pops.

And how new narrator is sekai. Trojan Nao freed sekai from 3 gods control now she is taking over.

And why tsubasa pushing his girls to akira, tsubasa's foursome stories are real under control of pareidolia.
Malvin(pareidolia) was feeding spork(hope) via getting tsubasa gangbanged.
she is trying to save her daughters from same fate.

And many more but I have reached the photo upload limit and I doubt anybody read..
so maybe another day.
I need a nap before I start talking to plants.
Peace out, homies.
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So much here, and I would need to think about it for a bit—but the interesting big-picture thing that really interested me was your thoughts on the terminals.

We’ve been largely assuming that the terminals are sequential, representing the generations in the game — so 22 is the parents (Yuu, Miu, etc.), 23 is the present group, and 24 is the next generation (Himawari) — you’ve suggested that the terminals are actually layers of reality. I love givemeabeer ’s take, that they’re like shells in a computer system—that the top shell (in your theory, terminal 24, right?) is so to say the objective reality of the game, while t23 is the “user interface,” the part of the computer system we interact with, while each layer above that (that is, the lower numbered terminals) is another layer of abstraction, resting inside the one above it.

So by that thinking, would, say, the safe room sequence with adult Sana, be a memory from reality (t25)? It’s pretty hallucinatory — so our hero (Akira/Sensei/Nozomu) is dealing with a psychotic break?
 
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elricsecret said:
Guys.
Come closer.

I caught up on the latest update and gathered all my notes.
I am on full nodaka mode.
I took a day off from work just for this.
I solved it.

----------------------------------
Explaining terminal 22-23-24.
Akira is Nozomu in "real" world(%100),
Sunflower baby with "T" eyes.. Himawari.
Explaining EVERYTHING
but most importantly, explaining why Ayane kills janitors! (seriously)
----------------------------------
Be ready for a long ride.

I put all of them under one spoiler tag because they need to be read in order to make sense.

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And Selebus if you are reading, I really enjoyed the game very much.
Please don't assassinate me for revealing the secrets


I still wanted to explain

How the world of 0.44 and 0.46 aren't same world.
0.44 world factory resetted. 0.46 is after many loops. A same world where akira never fought black orb in the end of sensei quest.
Hope doesnt save ayane and yumi. and makato just pops.

And how new narrator is sekai. Trojan Nao freed sekai from 3 gods control now she is taking over.

And why tsubasa pushing his girls to akira, tsubasa's foursome stories are real under control of pareidolia.
Malvin(pareidolia) was feeding spork(hope) via getting tsubasa gangbanged.
she is trying to save her daughters from same fate.

And many more but I have reached the photo upload limit and I doubt anybody read..
so maybe another day.
I need a nap before I start talking to plants.
Peace out, homies.
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This is an excellently put together theory with some really good backing.
I don't recall seeing it said either but your theories got very hand in hand with the gods "titles" too, it is likely they represent something that Akira / Nozu did not like about themselves, traits he thought he needed to be fixed. For example: The callous god, and even given the context of who he lost, likely also "Hope" as it would be -- to him, a weakness.

This also suggests that as each god handles a respective season, each season is dedicated to trying to "fix" a part of him he did not like.
 
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elricsecret said:
Guys.
Come closer.

I caught up on the latest update and gathered all my notes.
I am on full nodaka mode.
I took a day off from work just for this.
I solved it.

----------------------------------
Explaining terminal 22-23-24.
Akira is Nozomu in "real" world(%100),
Sunflower baby with "T" eyes.. Himawari.
Explaining EVERYTHING
but most importantly, explaining why Ayane kills janitors! (seriously)
----------------------------------
Be ready for a long ride.

I put all of them under one spoiler tag because they need to be read in order to make sense.

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And Selebus if you are reading, I really enjoyed the game very much.
Please don't assassinate me for revealing the secrets


I still wanted to explain

How the world of 0.44 and 0.46 aren't same world.
0.44 world factory resetted. 0.46 is after many loops. A same world where akira never fought black orb in the end of sensei quest.
Hope doesnt save ayane and yumi. and makato just pops.

And how new narrator is sekai. Trojan Nao freed sekai from 3 gods control now she is taking over.

And why tsubasa pushing his girls to akira, tsubasa's foursome stories are real under control of pareidolia.
Malvin(pareidolia) was feeding spork(hope) via getting tsubasa gangbanged.
she is trying to save her daughters from same fate.

And many more but I have reached the photo upload limit and I doubt anybody read..
so maybe another day.
I need a nap before I start talking to plants.
Peace out, homies.
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Kudos on the effort, but man, what a ride. It's just too long for me to review the whole thing (I have read it though), so I'll give an example:
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I could be wrong, and certainly not everything you said can or should be dismissed, but overall that's my opinion. Pareidolia said it best when he explained that if Akira was stronger, they'd have never even met. And multiple characters tell him that he's a fool to basically just walk around letting whatever "divine" bullshit take hold of him. Things are likely to be simpler than they appear.
 
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Kudos on the effort, but man, what a ride. It's just too long for me to review the whole thing (I have read it though), so I'll give an example:
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I could be wrong, and certainly not everything you said can or should be dismissed, but overall that's my opinion. Pareidolia said it best when he explained that if Akira was stronger, they'd have never even met. And multiple characters tell him that he's a fool to basically just walk around letting whatever "divine" bullshit take hold of him. Things are likely to be simpler than they appear.
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I honestly prefer this, it's partially because im not particularly smart but I think there's something nice about mysteries in which not everything is some asinine bullshit, vague foreshadow, or buckets worth of hidden lore.

Sometimes people are just the way they are and it's not a bad thing if Akira is just a fucked up dude normally.
 
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alright... here we go typing out my mental breakdown playing this game again

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well... that's the christmas event thing done... back to the usual I suppose...

also side note, how does one get around the game re-setting changes I make with the universal ren'py mod?
 
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Moonflare said:
Kudos on the effort, but man, what a ride. It's just too long for me to review the whole thing (I have read it though), so I'll give an example:
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I could be wrong, and certainly not everything you said can or should be dismissed, but overall that's my opinion. Pareidolia said it best when he explained that if Akira was stronger, they'd have never even met. And multiple characters tell him that he's a fool to basically just walk around letting whatever "divine" bullshit take hold of him. Things are likely to be simpler than they appear.
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"such as being the son of Yuu, and sibling to Akira"

Akira is not yuu's son.
that is terminal 22.
Terminal 23 is just resembles terminal 22.
Think it as a world based on Akira's subconscious.

And Nozomu is just a character that mirrors the real akira.
Terminal 24's "Real Akira" may not be actually named Nozomu.
Nozomu just based on his real persona.

Are you sure you read it?

When I play all the happy events from perspective of my theory.
they all make %100 sense.
And it's not like there is any other possible explanation.

I literally spoon feed every information. explained like I am talking to a 10 years old.
but some people still makes fun of it lol

I am starting to think you guys are selebus fake accounts that sabotages the theories that come to close to truth xD
thanks for "reading" tho.

selebus is brilliant, story telling is too deep and hard to consume.
I didn't expect most people to understand anyway.
 
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