Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.48.0] [Selebus]

[Moonflare]

You will get an event for Otoha called "Taint the Sapling" - it will offer you a choice:

This was the one time in the game where I couldn't go through with the all content route. It just felt so fucked.

I hated Otoha in my first playthrough and it was chore just looking at her face, then the game presents me with the choice to give her a nude of Niki, the same person she assaulted in order to cheat on Rin which is (maybe) the one person Akira hasn't broken trust with in any shape or form thus far.

I cooled my head and went back to get it, since it will probably change nothing anyway (in regards to harming Niki's career or even if she finds out she's already bound to Akira anyway, this would change shit). But yeah, hated doing that.

 

[TheSeedy1]

This was the one time in the game where I couldn't go through with the all content route. It just felt so fucked.

I hated Otoha in my first playthrough and it was chore just looking at her face, then the game presents me with the choice to give her a nude of Niki, the same person she assaulted in order to cheat on Rin which is (maybe) the one person Akira hasn't broken trust with in any shape or form thus far.

I cooled my head and went back to get it, since it will probably change nothing anyway (in regards to harming Niki's career or even if she finds out she's already bound to Akira anyway, this would change shit). But yeah, hated doing that.

I like Otoha but she is absolutely way less "cool" than she pretends to be. She's still no Nodoka though.

But yes, I did the same. I will wait to see what the outcome is before I enable that/see it and then undo it lol

Neither Rin nor Niki deserve that.

But still POOR KARIN *sob noises*

 

[Nadekai]

I like Otoha but she is absolutely way less "cool" than she pretends to be. She's still no Nodoka though.

But yes, I did the same. I will wait to see what the outcome is before I enable that/see it and then undo it lol

Neither Rin nor Niki deserve that.

But still POOR KARIN *sob noises*

Niki is bad.

Anyways, why do people hate Otoha and Nodoka?

 

[Fire Lord Zuko]

This was the one time in the game where I couldn't go through with the all content route. It just felt so fucked.

I hated Otoha in my first playthrough and it was chore just looking at her face, then the game presents me with the choice to give her a nude of Niki, the same person she assaulted in order to cheat on Rin which is (maybe) the one person Akira hasn't broken trust with in any shape or form thus far.

I cooled my head and went back to get it, since it will probably change nothing anyway (in regards to harming Niki's career or even if she finds out she's already bound to Akira anyway, this would change shit). But yeah, hated doing that.

I couldn’t go through with it either. I like Niki too much to betray her like that.

All else fails, if content is locked behind this choice and I made the wrong decision, I can just use URM to change the variable. Easy fix.

But for now, I don’t mind not having some extra pics in my in game phone.

 

[Fire Lord Zuko]

Niki is bad.

Counter-argument: Niki is good.

 

[TheSeedy1]

Counter-argument: Niki is good.

Niki is probably the ultimate girl in this game we don't deserve - like I fully think Noriko is still suffering a load of shit she shouldn't but Niki is quite literally clawing us back from the brink at the moment.

Niki is the GOAT. Plus as much as I adore Chika, god Niki's sex scenes are some "I need a few minutes" level of distraction.

Also, uh oh - at some point Chika's gonna learn and this is gonna be spicy.

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[DeSkel15]

This was the one time in the game where I couldn't go through with the all content route. It just felt so fucked.

I hated Otoha in my first playthrough and it was chore just looking at her face, then the game presents me with the choice to give her a nude of Niki, the same person she assaulted in order to cheat on Rin which is (maybe) the one person Akira hasn't broken trust with in any shape or form thus far.

I cooled my head and went back to get it, since it will probably change nothing anyway (in regards to harming Niki's career or even if she finds out she's already bound to Akira anyway, this would change shit). But yeah, hated doing that.

Frankly, I wouldn't be too surprised if Rin just gave Sensei a nude if he asked. She doesn't seem to mind flashing him or him using her socks apparently. They could probably trade nudes.

Otoha can get something probably thousands of people would kill for, and get it just for a Rin pic. No offense to Rin, but it just doesn't seem like a good deal, which even Otoha seemed to point out.

Sensei loves to make things more difficult than necessary.

Niki is bad.

Anyways, why do people hate Otoha and Nodoka?

Otoha hurt Rin, Nodoka hurt Yumi. Their fans don't like that. (More or less)

I've never liked Otoha, though... and I have a history:

Liar:

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Mentally Abusive:

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Etc.

Otoha is an extremely shitty person, which she's aware of:

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Yet instead of improving, she just wants to rationalize and move past it:

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Even the likes of Kirin, and Yumi, are at least trying to become better people. So, even Otoha's one pathetic excuse for her actions: "we're just teenagers" is utterly bullshit, which everyone knows. We've all been teenagers and unless you're lying to yourself, you know, it's no excuse. Otoha just disgusts me as a human being so far, and there's nothing I find particularly likable about her.

Worst of all though, I find her boring as fuck. I feel like everything she brings to the table is done by more interesting characters. Even her "Little Brother" and presumably shotacon stuff is done better by Sekai. One thing actually unique to Otoha is her hitting her girlfriend, and that's not really something I want to see.

I personally wouldn't really care if she got fridged. I mean I would, but it'd be more like "It's about time", than "Oh, NOtoha!" or whatever, lmao.

Edit: In retrospect, I wouldn't mind Nodoka's suggestion either:

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Although, Voyeur Big Sis Otoha has at least made her more interesting lately. (Or I'm just weak)

 

[Nadekai]

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Mentally Abusive:

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Etc.

Otoha is an extremely shitty person, which she's aware of:

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Yet instead of improving, she just wants to rationalize and move past it:

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Even the likes of Kirin, and Yumi, are at least trying to become better people. So, even Otoha's one pathetic excuse for her actions: "we're just teenagers" is utterly bullshit, which everyone knows. We've all been teenagers and unless you're lying to yourself, you know, it's no excuse. Otoha just disgusts me as a human being so far, and there's nothing I find particularly likable about her.

Worst of all though, I find her boring as fuck. I feel like everything she brings to the table is done by more interesting characters. Even her "Little Brother" and presumably shotacon stuff is done better by Sekai. One thing actually unique to Otoha is her hitting her girlfriend, and that's not really something I want to see.

I personally wouldn't really care if she got fridged. I mean I would, but it'd be more like "It's about time", than "Oh, NOtoha!" or whatever, lmao.

Edit: In retrospect, I wouldn't mind Nodoka's suggestion either:

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Perfect woman

 

[Nadekai]

Counter-argument: Niki is good.

Counter-argument: You got nice balls I wanna tickle.

 

[Nadekai]

Otoha hurt Rin, Nodoka hurt Yumi. Their fans don't like that. (More or less)

I only don't like Nodoka and Futaba.
Also I want Otoha to be turned into cuck.

 

[Fire Lord Zuko]

Niki is probably the ultimate girl in this game we don't deserve - like I fully think Noriko is still suffering a load of shit she shouldn't but Niki is quite literally clawing us back from the brink at the moment.

Niki is the GOAT. Plus as much as I adore Chika, god Niki's sex scenes are some "I need a few minutes" level of distraction.

Niki’s date chain event from Chapter 3 was some top tier writing and one of my favorite moments of the entire game. From start to finish it hit me in the feels.

Akira: “Will you really never leave me?”

Oh yeah. And “The End of the Tour (Glasswalker)” where Niki helps remind Akira of their past together and the song that plays during that whole sequence. I fucking love it.

Not to mention it ends with one of the best h-scenes in the game and you take your childhood friend’s virginity.

It’s a work of art I tell ya. Niki soared into my top 3 with ease after I witnessed all that.

 

[TheSeedy1]

Niki’s date chain event from Chapter 3 was some top tier writing and one of my favorite moments of the entire game. From start to finish it hit me in the feels.

Akira: “Will you really never leave me?”

Oh yeah. And “The End of the Tour (Glasswalker)” where Niki helps remind Akira of their past together and the song that plays during that whole sequence. I fucking love it.

Not to mention it ends with one of the best h-scenes in the game and you take your childhood friend’s virginity.

It’s a work of art I tell ya. Niki soared into my top 3 with ease after I witnessed all that.

This should replace the Lord's Prayer at this point man. Well said.

Plus she just doubles down after that - the scene where she makes Wakana/Imani sign NDAs and goes ham on Sensei lmao. Fucking perfection.

 

[Nadekai]

Niki’s date chain event from Chapter 3 was some top tier writing and one of my favorite moments of the entire game. From start to finish it hit me in the feels.

Akira: “Will you really never leave me?”

Oh yeah. And “The End of the Tour (Glasswalker)” where Niki helps remind Akira of their past together and the song that plays during that whole sequence. I fucking love it.

Not to mention it ends with one of the best h-scenes in the game and you take your childhood friend’s virginity.

It’s a work of art I tell ya. Niki soared into my top 3 with ease after I witnessed all that.

My top 5 is pretty much
1. Io
2. Uta
3. Haruka
4. Noriko
5. Niki / Otoha if she were to become cuck...

And ye, the Niki date was truly one of the best moments of the game... I don't like how Nodoka is just spreading my name to everyone...

 

[Moonflare]

Anyways, why do people hate Otoha and Nodoka?

Spoiler: what?

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Is this a serious question? lol Well, Otoha cheated on Rin, assaulted Niki, threw all of this on Rin's best friend and Niki's lifelong love out of nowhere in a really roundabout and cowardly manner (during confession event to Akira). Not to mention her general treatment of Rin during their relationship, and I personally don't feel like a standard capacity to tell Akira that dating his students is messed up is really a redeeming or unique enough quality that manages to balance things out.

All of that being said, she's just a teenager. So it's kind of whatever. She seems to do fucked up things more out of being immature than out of malice (still don't like her though, since most of them are teenagers and generally less shitty than her).

Nodoka is actively trying to break the world by destroying people. And the Niki stuff I'm assuming to be a joke.

Although, Voyeur Big Sis Otoha has at least made her more interesting lately. (Or I'm just weak)

I feel that at this point, the only redemption she could get is having sex with Akira. I don't really see another path for her to take, especially with the innuendo about younger brothers and her knowledge of Sekai's poems. So I'd agree with you there, she'll probably get corrupted.

 

[DeSkel15]

I want Otoha to be turned into cuck.

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Highlight of Chapter 4:

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[Riolol]

Frankly, I wouldn't be too surprised if Rin just gave Sensei a nude if he asked. She doesn't seem to mind flashing him or him using her socks apparently. They could probably trade nudes.

Otoha can get something probably thousands of people would kill for, and get it just for a Rin pic. No offense to Rin, but it just doesn't seem like a good deal, which even Otoha seemed to point out.

Sensei loves to make things more difficult than necessary.


Otoha hurt Rin, Nodoka hurt Yumi. Their fans don't like that. (More or less)

I've never liked Otoha, though... and I have a history:

Although, Voyeur Big Sis Otoha has at least made her more interesting lately. (Or I'm just weak)

It's odd I have never seen people hating on Yumi for bullying Futuba. Then again I never hated her either. The allure of the tsundere is too strong I guess. Now I'm wondering if Nodoka would get less hate if she was mean to Sensei.

 

[Nadekai]

Spoiler: what?

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Is this a serious question? lol Well, Otoha cheated on Rin, assaulted Niki, threw all of this on Rin's best friend and Niki's lifelong love out of nowhere in a really roundabout and cowardly manner (during confession event to Akira). Not to mention her general treatment of Rin during their relationship, and I personally don't feel like a standard capacity to tell Akira that dating his students is messed up is really a redeeming or unique enough quality that manages to balance things out.

All of that being said, she's just a teenager. So it's kind of whatever. She seems to do fucked up things more out of being immature than out of malice (still don't like her though, since most of them are teenagers and generally less shitty than her).

Nodoka is actively trying to break the world by destroying people. And the Niki stuff I'm assuming to be a joke.

Truth be told, in the beginning I hated Niki, but I came to like her...
Nodoka on the other hand... weird girl she is...

 

[Kuru]

My two cents is that I keep hating Otoha more and more. Always felt like she was stringing Rin along and pretty much how it was going after all. While I still looked at the Rin nude, pretty sure save is going forward as if I didn't make the trade. Rin feels like the last girl to get screwed over by Sensei as a whole. Doing the trade would make me feel like a bad homie that is the last 'pure' thing I have going for me anymore.

 

[Nadekai]

My two cents is that I keep hating Otoha more and more. Always felt like she was stringing Rin along and pretty much how it was going after all. While I still looked at the Rin nude, pretty sure save is going forward as if I didn't make the trade. Rin feels like the last girl to get screwed over by Sensei as a whole. Doing the trade would make me feel like a bad homie that is the last 'pure' thing I have going for me anymore.

It would probably main both her trust in me and start a really strong argument with Otoha...
Also... Niki's prolly gonna be disappointed in me... a lot

 

[TheSeedy1]

Ok this Death Ball scene and the "future interview" part is sending me atm xD