Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.48.0] [Selebus]

[Moonflare]

Honestly, I've always thought Rin was kind of an asshole. Not at all a bad person, but she's a teenager in a shitty circumstance; she can be a little self centered and minimize other people's problems

Spoiler: This line in particular always hits like a punch to the gut, even if she's Going Through It in this moment

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Don't really have a problem with that line, when you're at the bottom of the well you can't have a filter. And she cares a lot about Futaba and her condition when she's able to (their conversation at the library shows this).

I agree with the general take about Rin though, she's one of the teenagers that most feels like a teenager in the game. And, by extension, she's also the one with one of the healthiest relationships with Akira (on Akira's part if good homie).

She hasn't been a good friend to him in recent chapters, but he doesn't seem to mind because, again, she's a teenager. There were no expectations to begin with. I think that she may come to a point where she realises that if she made Akira her anchor for both an open-dialogue friendship and sexual release (perhaps what she should have done from the start), she might become a much more stable character in relation to the other people she interacts with.

 

[DeSkel15]

Maki and Molly aren't on complete top?
Also, why is Ami... so high?
And Sekai... so low?

Maki and Molly seem fine with the Harem, but not really desiring the Harem itself.

Ami has suggested sharing multiple times, seemed to try to seduce Maya, offered Ayane Sensei in the name of friendship, and seems able to tolerate others as long as she's not pushed out. GU Ami is also more desperate than BU Ami, so I'd think she'd tolerate a Harem if she actually gets some.

Is Sekai on conditional sharing because she'd let anyone have Akira BUT watermelon girl? lol

Sekai seemed jealous of Niki, and Sensei was likely dating Niki while fucking Sekai. So, there seemed to be conditional sharing going on, but I'm not sure if Sensei was allowed to fuck Niki, considering even a strand of Niki's hair apparently got him in trouble with Sekai.

Of course, that's alive Sekai. The supernatural Sekai says stuff like this:

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[Moonflare]

They seem fine with the Harem, but not really desiring the Harem itself.

Ami has suggested sharing multiple times, seemed to try to seduce Maya, offered Ayane Sensei in the name of friendship, and seems able to tolerate others as long as she's not pushed out. GU Ami is also more desperate than BU Ami, so I'd think she'd tolerate a Harem if she actually gets some.

Sekai seemed jealous of Niki, and Sensei was likely dating Niki while fucking Sekai. So, there seemed to be conditional sharing going on, but I'm not sure if Sensei was allowed to fuck Niki, considering even a strand of Niki's hair apparently got him in trouble with Sekai.

Of course, that's alive Sekai. The S
supernatural Sekai says stuff like this:

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Actually, on the Sekai front, since you touched upon this topic before when Sekai talked about happiness on the first happy event she teaches Akira, Maya and Ami with the dildos, do you think Sekai truly "loved" Akira? And if so, do you also think she only loved Akira?

Cause that event really seemed to point in that direction, since for her to know Akira she'd already be with Nozomu, and until having sex with Akira she wasn't happy.

I wonder a lot about their relationship, and if she truly loved Akira then why'd she tease him about his brother (given that she could be keeping her husband just as an excuse to be close to Akira).

She'd also tease Akira about Niki, so it isn't clear to me even if Akira sought Niki as an escape, or on command from Sekai. He leaving Niki when Sekai died (and never having sex with her) is also a bad sign for his feelings towards her. And I do wonder sometimes if his first real love was Maya instead (maybe that's why Sekai hates so much).

 

[DeSkel15]

Actually, on the Sekai front, since you touched upon this topic before when Sekai talked about happiness on the first happy event she teaches Akira, Maya and Ami with the dildos, do you think Sekai truly "loved" Akira? And if so, do you also think she only loved Akira?

Cause that event really seemed to point in that direction, since for her to know Akira she'd already be with Nozomu, and until having sex with Akira she wasn't happy.

I wonder a lot about their relationship, and if she truly loved Akira then why'd she tease him about his brother (given that she could be keeping her husband just as an excuse to be close to Akira).

She'd also tease Akira about Niki, so it isn't clear to me even if Akira sought Niki as an escape, or on command from Sekai. He leaving Niki when Sekai died (and never having sex with her) is also a bad sign for his feelings towards her. And I do wonder sometimes if his first real love was Maya instead (maybe that's why Sekai hates so much).

I think Sekai at least thought she loved Sensei. At first it was just fun, but she eventually grew attached to him, and then Ami showed up, and those two are probably the only people she ever loved. Ami more so than Sensei, though.

Nozomu was probably more along the lines of a means to an end. Based off his wife fucking others behind his back, his younger bro fucking his wife, and Ami's description of him as normal, I'm guessing he was kind of a pushover that Sekai had control over.

I'm also not entirely convinced Sensei actually loved Maya, tbh. It seems like she just reminded him of himself and he may have tried "fixing" her:

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and their relationship was the outcome.

Keep in mind, that he's more willing to fuck those he doesn't care about (Imani vs Rika). That's probably why he didn't fuck Niki, Noriko, or Ami pre resets. He actually cared about them as more than sex toys. Maya? Well, he may have grew attached to her over time like Sekai did him, but those years still aren't clear.

 

[Moonflare]

Yes, Miku, how was it? Do tell lol

 

[Moonflare]

So, one of the things that hasn't been made clear yet is what exactly Maya did (that made her into a bad person). I was rewatching Noriko's conversation with Maya on the second beach trip, and the possibility for blackmail from Maya increased.

Spoiler: Goodnight

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I think it's interesting because this conversation points out that Maya did some fucked up shit to get Akira away from Noriko (actually from Niki and Sekai), and that she was more or less in the same position as Ami in being a child trying to care for a broken adult. She tried to get him to move past them, but he was unable to, so they became these sources of fear for Maya (that she could do nothing about, but avoid).

Overall both of them want him to be healthy, but also not so healthy that he doesn't need them anymore - probably because if that day ever came to pass, then both Ami and Maya would also have to grow, and deal with the fact that Akira may simply not want to engage with them in a romantic manner (he could, but the possibility has got to be really scary for two people that have no one else in the world).

Spoiler: poor maya, that conversation wrecked her

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[LessonsInDissonance]

So, one of the things that hasn't been made clear yet is what exactly Maya did (that made her into a bad person). I was rewatching Noriko's conversation with Maya on the second beach trip, and the possibility for blackmail from Maya increased.

Spoiler: Goodnight

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I think it's interesting because this conversation points out that Maya did some fucked up shit to get Akira away from Noriko (actually from Niki and Sekai), and that she was more or less in the same position as Ami in being a child trying to care for a broken adult. She tried to get him to move past them, but he was unable to, so they became these sources of fear for Maya (that she could do nothing about, but avoid).

Overall both of them want him to be healthy, but also not so healthy that he doesn't need them anymore - probably because if that day ever came to pass, then both Ami and Maya would also have to grow, and deal with the fact that Akira may simply not want to engage with them in a romantic manner (he could, but the possibility has got to be really scary for two people that have no one else in the world).

Change the name "Maya" for HOPE and the name "Noriko" for WIRES

 

[LoveRedHairedGirl]

Change the name "Maya" for HOPE and the name "Noriko" for WIRES

And Ami for Pareidolia, right? xd

 

[Moonflare]

Well, there goes Nodoka's chance of fucking an idol I guess...

Spoiler: Thousands if not millions

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[BlackDays]

Change the name "Maya" for HOPE and the name "Noriko" for WIRES

Is that a joke or do you really think that would be possible?

 

[Leoxsama]

Change the name "Maya" for HOPE and the name "Noriko" for WIRES

Wait, if Yasu is worshipping HOPE and Maya IS HOPE, then Yasu is worshipping Maya?

 

[Kitty Hawk]

The mentioning of a Harem Tierlist, had me interested. Here's my take on most of the characters when it comes to relationships, in Chapter 4:

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Isn't Kirin too high in your tier list? Iirc she confessed to Sensei she was secretly jealous of him being with others and would ran away with him if he offered.

 

[Moonflare]

Made it to Lavender's Green, get ready to yet another compilation of forgotten details from that accursed Molly event (technically a main event).

Spoiler: Lavender's Green

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After rewatching this with context, it's my current impression that Akira was being controlled by either Pareidolia or Sekai to seek Molly. Then it's most likely that Pareidolia was the one that initiated their interaction. Then there was a conflict between forces that either disagreed to which extent he had to be traumatized (actually raping Molly or jerking off on her), or between a leading force and a defending force that was unable to act until that moment. This conflict led to a blue screen. When he came back, the force that wanted to minimize damage had won and he only jerked off on her with clothes intact. Then there may also have been a conflict on how he should proceed, but there was definitely at least one force that was there to chastise him for it (which probably was not Pareidolia since I don't see why he'd do it).

An added note is that these hands on his shoulders are constantly leading him to Yumi, and Akira points out that this whole event reminds him of that - although I don't have enough data on hand to make something out of this yet.

 

[DeSkel15]

Isn't Kirin too high in your tier list? Iirc she confessed to Sensei she was secretly jealous of him being with others and would ran away with him if he offered.

It's less Kirin being jealous of others and more her disliking Sensei choosing others over her, because she's not enough.

Kirin also tends to want multiple partners for herself, as well as Sensei, and she's usually molesting/crushing on Noriko in the background, flirting with Imani, and thinking about fucking Karin when she's not masturbating to her nudes, etc.

For example, after her "not enough" stuff, Kirin blackmailed Sensei and Touka to kiss at Halloween, and in her recent pic (right before Halloween) she tries to trade Karin nudes for a video of Sensei fucking another girl:

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Basically Kirin is Pro Harem, but also wants to be "enough" by herself...which is as paradoxical as it sounds.

 

[Moonflare]

Basically Kirin is Pro Harem, but also wants to be "enough" by herself...which is as paradoxical as it sounds.

Kirin in a sentence.

Spoiler: Metal in Microwaves

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Will pretty much scavenge anything she possibly can.

 

[BlackDays]

Made it to Lavender's Green, get ready to yet another compilation of forgotten details from that accursed Molly event (technically a main event).

Spoiler: Lavender's Green

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After rewatching this with context, it's my current impression that Akira was being controlled by either Pareidolia or Sekai to seek Molly. Then it's most likely that Pareidolia was the one that initiated their interaction. Then there was a conflict between forces that either disagreed to which extent he had to be traumatized (actually raping Molly or jerking off on her), or between a leading force and a defending force that was unable to act until that moment. This conflict led to a blue screen. When he came back, the force that wanted to minimize damage had won and he only jerked off on her with clothes intact. Then there may also have been a conflict on how he should proceed, but there was definitely at least one force that was there to chastise him for it (which probably was not Pareidolia since I don't see why he'd do it).

An added note is that these hands on his shoulders are constantly leading him to Yumi, and Akira points out that this whole event reminds him of that - although I don't have enough data on hand to make something out of this yet.

Don't know which event that Tsuneyo sentence comes from but if it's anywhere close to a Kaori related event, or even if not but more likely, that might be a literal hint about Kaori and that she might be posessed by a Sekai, because of a transplant.

 

[Moonflare]

Don't know which event that Tsuneyo sentence comes from but if it's anywhere close to a Kaori related event, or even if not but more likely, that might be a literal hint about Kaori and that she might be posessed by a Sekai, because of a transplant.

It's from Gallow's Edge, which is the event that follows Lavender's Green. But I mean, could be, who knows.

 

[Moonflare]

Huh, maybe Niki really isn't real after all.

Spoiler: That one FMK Scene

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Also, fuck you Kirin.

Spoiler: More than deserved

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[DeSkel15]

Speaking of Kirin and Lavender's Green, she's likely still convinced that Sensei raped Molly back then:

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And Kirin wants to go down on a white girl:

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So, I wonder how future Kirin and Molly events are going to be, after the recent Molly events and Meet & Fuck. Haruka may not have worked out, but a Kirin Molly Threesome(?) has been foreshadowed for quite awhile.

 

[zarpitas]

How do i update from .39?