sherlock123k

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The value of sharing isn't triggering for me? I messed up on Rin(last event crossed out) - is this preventing it? I can't progress with any of the other girls
 

Ankoku

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The value of sharing isn't triggering for me? I messed up on Rin(last event crossed out) - is this preventing it? I can't progress with any of the other girls
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Someone else was having trouble with that also, but apparently their problem was caused by them messing with stuff in their save file aside from just affection/lust.

If you meet all those requirements, it still isn't triggering, and you can't figure out why, I do have a save that takes place right before that event which I've confirmed works with this version (0.10.0p2). It's set up to have the best possible outcome that includes all the events being seen. Just click my name in the quote below to jump to the post I put it in:
If it's red and crossed out, and you don't have a save prior to that, I'm afraid there isn't. However, if you do everything prior to the Halloween event, you can have my save that starts right at the event and has that (and everything else) done. You can just watch it in scene replay with the save if you really don't wanna restart.
 
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Cerpin

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I think the warning is fine as is, though it wouldn't hurt to make it more explicit to cover his back. As far as being flippant, I mean, it is still just a game even with those topics. What do you mean by the 'face your fears is better suited to a horror game' part? I don't quite get that line. If you mean as the title, the horror is a major element, but this is still basically a dating sim, so that wouldn't work. Let me know if I interpreted that line wrong, I'm genuinely interested in your meaning there.
I'm going to preface this comment by saying that this is not a hill I intend to fight and die on, it really doesn't matter that much to me. Ultimately either Selebus sees my comment, agrees and tweaks the warning, or he sees it, disagrees and does nothing. There are more important hills.

I had intended to go no further than my original comment but as you have specifically asked me to explain I will. I really don't want to shit the thread up with a discussion about trigger warnings though (which funnily enough tend to trigger people).

You have definitely misunderstood my comment. Currently the warning states that "as in real life, horrible things may happen" then goes on to say "face your fears".

It is this final line that I was referring to as flippant.

The reason I say this is that usually I'd expect such a phrase to refer to more visceral fears - the dark, spooooooky ghosts, the unknown, blood and guts i.e. generic horror.

In a straight up generic horror setting this would be entirely appropriate. The ghosts (or whatever) aren't real, they aren't going to hurt you and it is through them that we experience catharsis.

But Selebus is pushing in to some really heavy topics regarding mental ill health and the very real consequences of that.This to me is starting to butt up against the boundaries of what would usually be lumped into the "horror" genre, particularly in games. Indeed I struggle to think of any mainstream games that really seek to address these issues, perhaps Silent Hill?

I would accept that "horrible things" does in fact include the kind of topics that are being explored. But I'm not sure it's a simple as facing one's fears when addressing them.

You specifically mention being more explicit to help him in covering his back but I think this really misses the point of content warnings and ascribes a really cynical motivation to Selebus. Given the very genuine style of his writing and engagement I don't think that's a fair assessment of his motivation for including such a warning given that he didn't have to include any warning at all.

I have found as I have gotten older and worked through my own issues that I have mellowed on the concept of trigger warnings, which I never used to like. To me, giving your audience a heads up that "hey we're going to be talking about some fucked up shit" is just a way of showing respect for that audience and hurts noone.

I suppose a parallel can be drawn with the medical warning immediately preceding the content warning in question. This is a photosensitive epilepsy warning. Very few people would begrudge such a warning despite it being virtually redundant. Why should we treat mental health differently?

So the point, if any is to be found in the rambly nonsense above, is that on the one hand Selebus is addressing some serious stuff in a serious and respectful way, but begins that by undermining his approach a little.

Tl;Dr snowflake got triggered ;)
 

Razumdar

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Try to download the Joiplay emulator together with the corresponding Ren'py plugin. Once you have it download and use the Windows version. It is the only solution that worked for me.
Thanks bud! I try it sometime.

Do you happen to know why this game is so big? It's bigger than both BaDik and Harem Hotel, two of the biggest games I've played on mobile. Is there really that much more content?
 

Ankoku

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Thanks bud! I try it sometime.

Do you happen to know why this game is so big? It's bigger than both BaDik and Harem Hotel, two of the biggest games I've played on mobile. Is there really that much more content?
There's very little compression (if any) used in the game and a large amount of music/sound effects which are used to great effect. On top of that, there are 73 animations for sex scenes and countless stills.

Never played BaDik, but in comparison to Harem Hotel, I think there's roughly the same amount of content? At least it seems that way to me. It has been a few months since I played Harem Hotel though, so may be misremembering.

Still worth the size IMO.
 
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sherlock123k

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Do y'all know what the last secret scene is? I'm missing the final scene for Miku and Makoto and they're not triggering no matter what so I think I need to have the last secret scene to trigger it(probably)
 

cckerberos

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Do you happen to know why this game is so big? It's bigger than both BaDik and Harem Hotel, two of the biggest games I've played on mobile. Is there really that much more content?
You must be comparing different versions of the games.

LiL is 2.6 GB uncompressed compared to 5.7 GB for Harem Hotel and 10.4 GB for BaDik.
 
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Razumdar

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You must be comparing different versions of the games.

LiL is 2.6 GB uncompressed compared to 5.7 GB for Harem Hotel and 10.4 GB for BaDik.
Well normally for mobile the ones listed under "android" are already compressed. I didn't even know uncompressed games worked on android lol (not super well versed in this stuff.)

Is there even a compressed android version?
 

sherlock123k

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Apr 8, 2020
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Welp, just skipped past 50 days and still bluejay and one,two, three isn't triggering. Finished all the main events, all events for the other girls, and every secret event other than the last one. :(

Any help?
 

Ankoku

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How do i use this
During the weekend there's a "Computer" option. Use it there.

However, using any of the cheats marks your save as a cheater. As of version 0.10.0p2 there are no consequences to this, but given the nature of denpa games like this (see horror tag), I wouldn't be surprised if there were pretty severe repercussions later. As such, I suggest playing without cheats unless you REALLY feel you need them.
 

Razumdar

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There's very little compression (if any) used in the game and a large amount of music/sound effects which are used to great effect. On top of that, there are 73 animations for sex scenes and countless stills.

Never played BaDik, but in comparison to Harem Hotel, I think there's roughly the same amount of content? At least it seems that way to me. It has been a few months since I played Harem Hotel though, so may be misremembering.

Still worth the size IMO.
Oh I'm not complaining. I mean I am, because I'm without a pc and I can't get it to work on my phone, but I'm not mad about it. I just was able to get it to work a few updates ago so now I'm invested, and I was just trying to figure out why it wasn't working.

Being a dick is also a pretty huge game but I play the compressed android version on my 4 year old phone and it runs/looks perfectly fine. That has all kinds of different music in too.

Again, since I can't do it myself I'm not gonna bitch about it, but a compressed android version would be so sweet. I feel that many would suffer a loss of a quality to just be able to download and install.
 
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Cerpin

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Oh I'm not complaining. I mean I am, because I'm without a pc and I can't get it to work on my phone, but I'm not mad about it. I just was able to get it to work a few updates ago so now I'm invested, and I was just trying to figure out why it wasn't working.
If you're finding the game is straight up not installing it may be worth fully uninstalling the game first and deleting all app data. (Just remember to backup your saves somewhere).

I have found with the most recent Android builds on various games that the installers aren't playing nice.
 
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I'm going to preface this comment by saying that this is not a hill I intend to fight and die on, it really doesn't matter that much to me. Ultimately either Selebus sees my comment, agrees and tweaks the warning, or he sees it, disagrees and does nothing. There are more important hills.

I had intended to go no further than my original comment but as you have specifically asked me to explain I will. I really don't want to shit the thread up with a discussion about trigger warnings though (which funnily enough tend to trigger people).

You have definitely misunderstood my comment. Currently the warning states that "as in real life, horrible things may happen" then goes on to say "face your fears".

It is this final line that I was referring to as flippant.

The reason I say this is that usually I'd expect such a phrase to refer to more visceral fears - the dark, spooooooky ghosts, the unknown, blood and guts i.e. generic horror.

In a straight up generic horror setting this would be entirely appropriate. The ghosts (or whatever) aren't real, they aren't going to hurt you and it is through them that we experience catharsis.

But Selebus is pushing in to some really heavy topics regarding mental ill health and the very real consequences of that.This to me is starting to butt up against the boundaries of what would usually be lumped into the "horror" genre, particularly in games. Indeed I struggle to think of any mainstream games that really seek to address these issues, perhaps Silent Hill?

I would accept that "horrible things" does in fact include the kind of topics that are being explored. But I'm not sure it's a simple as facing one's fears when addressing them.

You specifically mention being more explicit to help him in covering his back but I think this really misses the point of content warnings and ascribes a really cynical motivation to Selebus. Given the very genuine style of his writing and engagement I don't think that's a fair assessment of his motivation for including such a warning given that he didn't have to include any warning at all.

I have found as I have gotten older and worked through my own issues that I have mellowed on the concept of trigger warnings, which I never used to like. To me, giving your audience a heads up that "hey we're going to be talking about some fucked up shit" is just a way of showing respect for that audience and hurts noone.

I suppose a parallel can be drawn with the medical warning immediately preceding the content warning in question. This is a photosensitive epilepsy warning. Very few people would begrudge such a warning despite it being virtually redundant. Why should we treat mental health differently?

So the point, if any is to be found in the rambly nonsense above, is that on the one hand Selebus is addressing some serious stuff in a serious and respectful way, but begins that by undermining his approach a little.

Tl;Dr snowflake got triggered ;)
Remember that this is a Denpa game, a common comparison game being Doki Doki Literature Club, which is also a Denpa game and also deals with very real issues in the same manner. Remember the scenes with Yuri and Sayori, those are very real issues and there is nothing addressing them as the real life issues they are in that game. Silent Hill is a traditional horror game, not a Denpa game. I don't think Selebus meant to face the fear of these topics, but to face the fear these topics coming up as suddenly as they do in this game can induce. I had forgotten where it said that since I haven't played from the start for a while, which is why I asked.

I mention making the warning more explicit as a precaution because there are some people out there who would take issue with the way it is now. They would completely gloss over the fact that there is indeed a warning to say that it isn't enough. I'm not trying to paint Selebus or the motivation to upgrade the warning as cynical, that's just a suggestion to make sure he doesn't run into that kind of trouble because that type of group can be a real pain to deal with. As I said, personally, I believe the warning is adequate as it is now, but some may not believe the same. Yes, the epilepsy warning does have very little use at the moment, but once again, it is better to be safe than sorry. There is no difference in the way the two are treated, he is very aware how serious both are and he is addressing them as such. Because I don't think he meant what you think he meant in the sections you think undermine his approach, I don't think he is undermining his approach at all. In fact, if one were to actually play the game and see the events, I am in no way saying or implying you haven't just to put that out there, they would see just how accurately he is portraying these very real issues.

If you need an example, definitely look at Rin. She is exactly what I picture when thinking of someone dealing with her issues and it actually scares me to consider that this fictional character isn't the only one going through such horrors, even though I was already aware it happens in real life, but that many very real people are as well, some of which have taken the ultimate and irreversible final step or who have caused permanent damage that they will live with until their time comes naturally.
 

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Remember that this is a Denpa game, a common comparison game being Doki Doki Literature Club, which is also a Denpa game and also deals with very real issues in the same manner. Remember the scenes with Yuri and Sayori, those are very real issues and there is nothing addressing them as the real life issues they are in that game. Silent Hill is a traditional horror game, not a Denpa game. I don't think Selebus meant to face the fear of these topics, but to face the fear these topics coming up as suddenly as they do in this game can induce. I had forgotten where it said that since I haven't played from the start for a while, which is why I asked.

I mention making the warning more explicit as a precaution because there are some people out there who would take issue with the way it is now. They would completely gloss over the fact that there is indeed a warning to say that it isn't enough. I'm not trying to paint Selebus or the motivation to upgrade the warning as cynical, that's just a suggestion to make sure he doesn't run into that kind of trouble because that type of group can be a real pain to deal with. As I said, personally, I believe the warning is adequate as it is now, but some may not believe the same. Yes, the epilepsy warning does have very little use at the moment, but once again, it is better to be safe than sorry. There is no difference in the way the two are treated, he is very aware how serious both are and he is addressing them as such. Because I don't think he meant what you think he meant in the sections you think undermine his approach, I don't think he is undermining his approach at all. In fact, if one were to actually play the game and see the events, I am in no way saying or implying you haven't just to put that out there, they would see just how accurately he is portraying these very real issues.

If you need an example, definitely look at Rin. She is exactly what I picture when thinking of someone dealing with her issues and it actually scares me to consider that this fictional character isn't the only one going through such horrors, even though I was already aware it happens in real life, but that many very real people are as well, some of which have taken the ultimate and irreversible final step or who have caused permanent damage that they will live with until their time comes naturally.
I would say that the portrayal of the things presented are good and fine as they are. Actually i would say that it's a good choice that they are portrayed this way. Gives insight to how things look like under the shell that's commonly known. Gives the game additional quality in informational value. Connecting something you do for fun with something that will give you valuable experience in your life is often amazing. Especially with people that do end up like Rin. With her particularly, it is... scary, how accurate it was. And i'm saying that from first hand experience. Most of people do find themselves in that exact spot that you find her in back in the dorms. Knowing and seeing it may or may not help you and other people, but it's always to have that kind of knowledge just in case.

On the other hand i do agree and think that it would be nice to reimburse the initial piece of information. Giving a warning is already enough, but it doesn't hurt to make them click on the standard annoying "I understand" button. Maybe even double down and give them a second window right after it, saying that you are not joking and that they should be prepared for possibly disturbing things.
 
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Selebus I photoshop edited something for you and then made a meme... I'd post it in your discord but this release still hasnt gone public
We must honor the newest addition to the fowl gang... welcome todd
we need new and different birds now... can we get a penguin at some point or something selebus
todd the chicken.png TODD HOWARDS CHICKEN.png
 
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Razumdar

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If you're finding the game is straight up not installing it may be worth fully uninstalling the game first and deleting all app data. (Just remember to backup your saves somewhere).

I have found with the most recent Android builds on various games that the installers aren't playing nice.
Yeah I always do that in between updates. (Unless you also mean stuff like my saves too.)

It gets past the staging step but only installs for a second before failing.
 
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