alex2011

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It's your fault for making a great game like this...

Now send me some meds!!!
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The only medicine needed is HOPE-Sama. :p

Ayane and Kirin both had some public acts on the beach but they weren’t in front of/with anyone other than Sensei.
Ah, right, those would count. For some reason, when I think exhibitionism I think of sexual acts or nudity in blatantly public view like the couple of games that have popped up in the last few months where the entire goal is to walk around naked in public view, and some times masturbate, without getting caught.
 
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preskerd

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This game has one of the best story and characters ever and h-scenes are top notch but it makes me feel like a jerk fucking hell dude... Selebus I know you can't give spoilers but at least can we get an endings for each girls? (prefer happily living after ending). Like I even would willing to romance only a single girl (that even includes Yumi) for the entire game if it leads happy ending for that girl and sensei. For the first time ever I don't like to romance multiple girls in a fucking harem game. Because other than couple of them, I don't think they are fine with Sensei having sex with other girls. It feels terrible to cheat them :(
 

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This game has one of the best story and characters ever and h-scenes are top notch but it makes me feel like a jerk fucking hell dude... Selebus I know you can't give spoilers but at least can we get an endings for each girls? (prefer happily living after ending). Like I even would willing to romance only a single girl (that even includes Yumi) for the entire game if it leads happy ending for that girl and sensei. For the first time ever I don't like to romance multiple girls in a fucking harem game. Because other than couple of them, I don't think they are fine with Sensei having sex with other girls. It feels terrible to cheat them :(
There will be individual girl routes, called purity routes, but there's no guarentee they'll have happy endings considering the genre of this game. I really hope HOPE they do though.
Lessons in Love will be split into three parts.
LiL Proper (The version we're in now)
Dark Route (The mandatory route after LiL Proper)
Purity Routes (Ending routes for each girl that will include several hours of new content for each one)

A final true ending will be planned as well, but keep in mind that any ending is a looooooooooooooong ways away.
 

AgumenticR

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In that respect, I guess it is like real life since we don't know the outcome of our decisions ahead of time but I'm still holding that doesn't count as a betrayal.
Going for Chika first before talking with Rin is indeed not betrayal. Agreeing to give her a chance even though you already took it is, though, and since you need to do that to get to the beach event, by that time Sensei does betray Rin.
 

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Going for Chika first before talking with Rin is indeed not betrayal. Agreeing to give her a chance even though you already took it is, though, and since you need to do that to get to the beach event, by that time Sensei does betray Rin.
As with a few others in this thread, you've missed my point. But I'm done with the topic, so let's move on.
 

alex2011

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This game has one of the best story and characters ever and h-scenes are top notch but it makes me feel like a jerk fucking hell dude... Selebus I know you can't give spoilers but at least can we get an endings for each girls? (prefer happily living after ending). Like I even would willing to romance only a single girl (that even includes Yumi) for the entire game if it leads happy ending for that girl and sensei. For the first time ever I don't like to romance multiple girls in a fucking harem game. Because other than couple of them, I don't think they are fine with Sensei having sex with other girls. It feels terrible to cheat them :(
There will be endings for everyone from what has been said before, however, don't expect good things for a while IF they happen. This is shooting for the Denpa genre, which is known for its lack of happiness, either very little or none at all, mostly the latter. This game is meant to make you feel terrible, to make you feel like a jerk.

Going for Chika first before talking with Rin is indeed not betrayal. Agreeing to give her a chance even though you already took it is, though, and since you need to do that to get to the beach event, by that time Sensei does betray Rin.
It is, in fact, a betrayal unless you specifically choose not to hold off on Schadenfreude until after the beach event, regardless of having seen the warnings. You, collective you, had the chance to find the warnings as they are readily available at your request via having sufficient affection with Rin to see the scene Cafe Mocha. Proceeding with Chika without seeing those warnings is a conscious choice and constitutes betrayal because you chose to ignore what even player Sensei, literally the thickest guy in any adult game ever, sometimes aggravatingly so, called a blatantly obvious crush, though not in those exact words. You DO NOT need to have done anything sexual or romantic in nature with Chika before the beach event, only her events prior to Schadenfreude. You don't even need to hold back on grinding her affection, just don't go to the location of the Schadenfreude event, which is the trigger for it. Going to that location means the player, and by extension player Sensei, chose to proceed beyond the promised boundary.

Yes, agreeing to give Rin her shot AFTER you have done things with Chika also constitutes a betrayal, on that all can agree. In fact, some might view that as worse than taking her shot away after promising to leave Chika alone because you are promising something that doesn't even exist anymore. There is no shot to take, just a chance at heartbreak.
 

alex2011

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Hmm. I'm not yet at the end of current version, and maybe I'm playing it wrong, but aside from those WTF?! scenes (for some reason called "happy"), it's like I died and went to heaven Kumon-mi. :D
You'll get there, if the game hasn't succeeded in its goal yet, it will soon enough.

Turns out teenaged girls aren't entirely rational about what they view as betrayal, who knew?!!
Nope, or about anything else, I've seen it firsthand. Then again, any person would feel betrayed if their blatantly obvious feelings were trampled by one of the top five most trusted people they know despite a warning being given and how obvious their feelings are, obvious enough for player Sensei to be the one to say it out loud first before Rin even has a chance to tell him, thus leading into the two warning lines that she specifically uses to tell player Sensei to back away from the heavily tanned blonde until she gets a chance at her. Even more so if the betrayer steals the opportunity before even promising to give said opportunity.
 
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DrFree

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So, changing a bit the subject, I would like to address something: a hint.
I haven't been active in this thread for a while, but after playing the second reset I found something interesting but I will keep it all in spoiler territory.
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Now, after the whole talks about "3 gods Gods" I find this really interesting. It could be nothing, but since this appeared while in the 2nd reset its gotta be important lore wise. ESPECIALLY after that scene with Ami in the same event.
 

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Ok, so, when I got this game I just saw a shitty demo from a community member from a weird place on the internet, and decided to give it a try since the last 4chan game I played was pretty good. But... This game really blew away my expectations (I think I'm using that phrase correctly?). It's good, like really good. I'm not yet done with it, but I'm having a blast.

It's not often I see a piece of work with both soul and meaning, and fun to boot (Another phrase of questionable usage properness). It's been one hell of a long time since a game has had me play it with a hex translator on the side. The characters are great, but special props (I blame bot my usage of unfamiliar terms and this weird typing quirk on slight sleep deprivation) to Maya who, despite me chasing every other girl and supposedly disliking it from the beginning, made me realize a trillion hours into the game how I've looked for her everywhere every time something significant or disturbing happened in the hopes I could discuss it with her, unexpectedly engraving herself into my unconscious as my... something. Solace? Ally? No idea. As someone I wanted to be with.

So yeah, this game speaks to me and I'm enjoying it a lot. I will stick around, please keep up the good work.

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AgumenticR

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It is, in fact, a betrayal unless you specifically choose not to hold off on Schadenfreude until after the beach event, regardless of having seen the warnings.
No, it's not. Even assuming one understands that Rin is pining for Chika, going for the latter is not the betrayal of the former in itself. As long as you do not promise Rin anything - and you do not until you do her events - you are not breaking anything, since there isn't any promise to break. And since Rin didn't trust you with her feeling in the first place, you can't betray that trust by fingering Chika.

Of course, you do end up betraying that trust later, when you advance the plot and Rin does share her feelings, but before that, even though you/Sensei are already in a relationship with Chika, Rin was not betrayed.
 

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Was wondering when someone would notice this :)

So yeah, this game speaks to me and I'm enjoying it a lot. I will stick around, please keep up the good work.
I'm really glad you're enjoying it so far. There is still so much to tell and I'm excited to have you along for the ride.
 

DrFree

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Was wondering when someone would notice this :)
I figure not many have done the nice uncle run yet. I have an up to date save with all the bad-anything (homie, uncle, same-age-friend) decisions made.
Now onto making the most minimal game-changing decisions made possible walkthrough. Its clear that you can't proceed without some scumbagery, like Yumi's first game-changing event, but I bet I can continue the "main story" to a degree without seeing events like "still young" or "the need to hurt" etc.

Out of all of the possibilities though, the hardest decision is probably whether or not fucking Sara when Sana is in the other room. On one hand, she is possibly the best bet on a decent sexual relationship for Sensei. Single, same age, horny, comes with a cute prospect of a step-daughter.
The only problem is the whole "bang her drunk with her daughter whose smile you want to protect in the next room" starting point.
In fact, I think this is the first question I ever asked: Am I going to royally fuck up things with Sana for starting something with Sara?
The sole hint of something going on with Ayane made her cry ffs.
 

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I am impressed by writing quality, plot and speed of development (maybe later I will write review). After reading this topic, I assume the author already has a vision of the entire game. Is it known what percentage of project is already done and how many years will it take to finish?
 
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