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Obsidion69

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But it is explicitly about training Daphne. You cannot chose to have her not be corrupted. Unless you just play the same loop of "Search for clues" over and over again, but that would be a bit obtuse.

If you want Daphne to blow Fred, first she has to be taught how by Red. Doing so increases a corruption stat. The higher the stat the more you can convince her to do. This is like the definition of a trainer game. See 4 elements trainer, something unlimited, or Witch Trainer.
No that makes it a corruption game which trainer games are a sub-genre of. Like I said Trainer games are single perspective titles where you play as "the Trainer" intent on the corruption one or more people around you. By your own description you're effectively playing the role of narrator, a disconnected third person role, making decisions for each character at specific story points which makes it a Choose Your Own Adventure game with a corruption story. Just for further illustration the point if anything it sounds like this is less like the trainers you mentioned, which I have played all of, and more like the typical "coming of age" female protag game where the 18 to 20 something sheltered girl moves to the big city and after being exposed to the big bad lewd world chooses between going full on uber slut, just being kinda slutty so she can make rent every month, or somewhere in-between. Even if complete corruption of Daphne, and presumably Velma eventually, is the only way to finish the game I'd still at best call it a hybrid that's trainer adjacent rather than an actual trainer although it could be made into a true trainer if you changed it so that Red is giving her instructions as to what to do with Fred and Shaggy. It's worth noting this would also clarify the nature of the NTR aspect of the games cause it would be unquestionably netorase.

Just to be clear I'm not trying to bust your balls here. Just trying to point out it's not really a trainer and if you keep calling it one odds are your gonna get a lot more questions and complaints than if you just called it a corruption story or retooled it slightly to actually be a true trainer.
 

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No that makes it a corruption game which trainer games are a sub-genre of. Like I said Trainer games are single perspective titles where you play as "the Trainer" intent on the corruption one or more people around you. By your own description you're effectively playing the role of narrator, a disconnected third person role, making decisions for each character at specific story points which makes it a Choose Your Own Adventure game with a corruption story. Just for further illustration the point if anything it sounds like this is less like the trainers you mentioned, which I have played all of, and more like the typical "coming of age" female protag game where the 18 to 20 something sheltered girl moves to the big city and after being exposed to the big bad lewd world chooses between going full on uber slut, just being kinda slutty so she can make rent every month, or somewhere in-between. Even if complete corruption of Daphne, and presumably Velma eventually, is the only way to finish the game I'd still at best call it a hybrid that's trainer adjacent rather than an actual trainer although it could be made into a true trainer if you changed it so that Red is giving her instructions as to what to do with Fred and Shaggy. It's worth noting this would also clarify the nature of the NTR aspect of the games cause it would be unquestionably netorase.

Just to be clear I'm not trying to bust your balls here. Just trying to point out it's not really a trainer and if you keep calling it one odds are your gonna get a lot more questions and complaints than if you just called it a corruption story or retooled it slightly to actually be a true trainer.
I think we just fundamentally disagree on what makes something a trainer game, which is fine.

In my view, nothing about a trainer game requires the POV to only be from the trainer's perspective. In this game Red is the trainer, full stop. Daphne doesn't do anything that she was not trained by Red to do.

I see what you mean about the "giving instructions" part, but that would be almost impossible in the NTR setting I've established. Daphne doesn't need to be told to suck Fred off, as that is *why* she is training in the first place. If Red had to tell her, that would seem pretty strange, imo. Maybe I could add some lines of dialogue after she's been trained on blowjobs that is something like "Ok, now you are ready to suck off Fred" with the idea being to show Daphne how bad Fred is at it.

But again the whole premise is that she is training to be good enough to have sex with Fred. If she has to be told to do such things, it removes her entire reason for training.
 

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I think we just fundamentally disagree on what makes something a trainer game, which is fine.

In my view, nothing about a trainer game requires the POV to only be from the trainer's perspective. In this game Red is the trainer, full stop. Daphne doesn't do anything that she was not trained by Red to do.

I see what you mean about the "giving instructions" part, but that would be almost impossible in the NTR setting I've established. Daphne doesn't need to be told to suck Fred off, as that is *why* she is training in the first place. If Red had to tell her, that would seem pretty strange, imo. Maybe I could add some lines of dialogue after she's been trained on blowjobs that is something like "Ok, now you are ready to suck off Fred" with the idea being to show Daphne how bad Fred is at it.

But again the whole premise is that she is training to be good enough to have sex with Fred. If she has to be told to do such things, it removes her entire reason for training.
Now see that makes it sound even less like a trainer and more like a general corruption game cause you're making it sound like all of it was Daphne's idea and Red isn't so much a trainer but a practice dummy whom she'll ultimately want more than Fred because Fred's got the smallest dick.
 

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Now see that makes it sound even less like a trainer and more like a general corruption game cause you're making it sound like all of it was Daphne's idea and Red isn't so much a trainer but a practice dummy whom she'll ultimately want more than Fred because Fred's got the smallest dick.
At this point I just really do not understand what your definition of a trainer game is. Red convinces Daphne to train to be better at sex. What beyond that makes a trainer game to you? (This might sound like rhetorical, but I mean it literally, I would like to know)
 

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Holding a costume contest to celebrate the holidays. This part is open to the public, just go comment what costume you'd like to see in game and I'll compile them all into a poll that gets voted on. The winner will be added into the game, no questions asked.
 

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NTR Critic thank you for making everyone proportional. I know that sounds weird, but something that drives me crazy is when someone takes the character and gives them massive tits and a huge ass (like unrealistically so) idk if that's a copyright thing or what, but it breaks the immersion that I'm seeing Daphne or whomever having sex
 

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NTR Critic thank you for making everyone proportional. I know that sounds weird, but something that drives me crazy is when someone takes the character and gives them massive tits and a huge ass (like unrealistically so) idk if that's a copyright thing or what, but it breaks the immersion that I'm seeing Daphne or whomever having sex
Yeah, I'm a believer of "On Model" R34, or as close as you can be. What's the point of making a parody just to change the character, ya know?
 

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Hey all, this is a test release that ONLY has the new opening that I am working on. Give it a try if you want and let me know what you think. Personally, I really like the clue finding mechanic I added, but the rest I'm not sure about. (AGAIN, not new sex content, just testing out a new opening and some actual game mechanics.)

 
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BTW! Who know more games about Scooby-do??
https://f95zone.to/threads/shaggys-power-v0-0-8-1-public-fix2-fin.76612/

https://f95zone.to/threads/scooby-doo-a-depraved-investigation-v5-the-dark-forest.144664/

https://f95zone.to/threads/dark-forest-stories-scooby-doo-final-the-dark-forest.37465/

These are the ones I know of. Wish the art on them was more on model. the last one is pretty close, but it is clearly traced over official art in some places, so it is a bit meh
 
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I'm sorry to have failed you.

Once the game is done, I do plan to make a Vanilla version that is just about having normal sex with Fred. But that won't be for a bit.
Ruh Roh! You failed a person who isn't actively supporting your game development!
Don't try to please everyone or you will break your back trying to put your member where it doesn't belong. People can support you if they want to influence you otherwise take any complaint from a non-paying voice with a grain of salt and just focus on your story the way you envision it.
Now for my supportive, constructive comment: Daphne "Oh hey, I found a box of Scooby Snacks" would be the proper way to phrase that where I colored the corrections green.
Game is a little slow to get Scooby snacks but it seems like a great start so far, I can't wait for more scenes. I do feek if you are going to skip a scene as unwritten/undrawn you should still give corruption and love effects from them
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