Ren'Py Life as an Innocent Waitress [v0.4.1] [Frisson Studios]

[kopiluwak]

I both disagree and agree with your post and would like to ask your opinion of 2.2 vs 4.1. Do you really find 4.1 to be an improvement over 2.2? If so how? I find the subway mini-game much worse, the waitressing which I thought was the main focus got next to no love and instead this new bar-tending mini game while at first I didn't hate it is just boring an repetitive and doesn't seem to go anywhere. At least with the waitress mini game I felt like there were goals to attain. This 4.1 update feels all over the place with very little direction. Oh and don't get me started about the beach, tried it, hated it and always skip it.

More power to the dev worshipers who apparently love every single part of this update. You at least to seem to be a total dev sycophant so I would like to what I am missing.

You won't get satisfaction with this answer I'm afraid, but I honestly appreciate the dev's attempt at making the game fun and interactive, whether it be hit or miss, I personally find the train segment to be pure tedium and I just skip it because there was just no fun engaging with the mechanic there, but I can see it taking shape in something good eventually, it wouldn't take much in my opinion, what's wrong with the "beach" is that it's not correctly implemented in the game's natural flow, and you're already pretty busy with all she has to do, more isn't better in this case.

In my humble opinion the core of the gameplay - her work at the bar - should be the exclusive place where you require my active participation as a player, everything else, the train, the beach, the home chores, etc. is secondary and should be "one clic problem solved" taking as little of my time as possible, it sole purpose should be to enhance the experience.

Nothing is "horrible" or hopelessly bad, though, it's just jank inherent to the development process.

 

[Groovytime]

You won't get satisfaction with this answer I'm afraid, but I honestly appreciate the dev's attempt at making the game fun and interactive, whether it be hit or miss, I personally find the train segment to be pure tedium and I just skip it because there was just no fun engaging with the mechanic there, but I can see it taking shape in something good eventually, it wouldn't take much in my opinion, what's wrong with the "beach" is that it's not correctly implemented in the game's natural flow, and you're already pretty busy with all she has to do, more isn't better in this case.

In my humble opinion the core of the gameplay - her work at the bar - should be the exclusive place where you require my active participation as a player, everything else, the train, the beach, the home chores, etc. is secondary and should be "one clic problem solved" taking as little of my time as possible, it sole purpose should be to enhance the experience.

Nothing is "horrible" or hopelessly bad, though, it's just jank inherent to the development process.

Thank you for that post, I actually agree with pretty much everything you said. I hope that it is as you say that its because its in the development stage that it is the way it is.

I really REALLY liked 2.2 and felt the devs had a solid foundation and really really hope they either fix the major issues with the 4.1 update down the road or change directions but when people heap praise upon praise for a very flawed update in my view it can only encourage the dev to continue to put out subpar and lesser updates then they have before.

Holding devs feet to the fire is how you help them improve their product. Coddling them with constant praise only makes things worse and your post while not as harsh as mine still points out the flaws which I appreciate and wish more people would also do.

 

[That other person]

Every time I come here because of a notification I see a huge argument lol wth? Now I remember why I avoided the thread until the update showed up.

Anyway I have some questions, maybe the dev will answer, maybe they won't. Can't blame Frisson_Studios for not wanting to look in here too often

- Will the school actually become a place with its own batch of events or will it remain as it is now?

- Will Angel eventually get to have multiple clothes to better fit her corruption level or lack of it outside the waitressing?

- Are there plans to include multiple unique events during waitressing (birthdays, bachelor party, depressed random, some guy with a fake id) and stuff?

- Will the boyfriend have an impact or participation in any of the events at the bar or will it be a more pure, romantic situation that could turn bad depending on the player's choices?

- You have more ideas for minigames or jobs for Angel that you are not quite sure if you will implement? Just curious.

- Any plans on making the "purer" Angel a little more rebel and harden her as she faces this mess, with her own benefits?

I'm just curious really.

 

[a_bored_guy]

Every time I come here because of a notification I see a huge argument lol wth? Now I remember why I avoided the thread until the update showed up.

Anyway I have some questions, maybe the dev will answer, maybe they won't. Can't blame Frisson_Studios for not wanting to look in here too often

- Will the school actually become a place with its own batch of events or will it remain as it is now?

- Will Angel eventually get to have multiple clothes to better fit her corruption level or lack of it outside the waitressing?

- Are there plans to include multiple unique events during waitressing (birthdays, bachelor party, depressed random, some guy with a fake id) and stuff?

- Will the boyfriend have an impact or participation in any of the events at the bar or will it be a more pure, romantic situation that could turn bad depending on the player's choices?

- You have more ideas for minigames or jobs for Angel that you are not quite sure if you will implement? Just curious.

- Any plans on making the "purer" Angel a little more rebel and harden her as she faces this mess, with her own benefits?

I'm just curious really.

Not frisson, but i think they said that the school indeed will have its own events and stuff to do there

 

[That other person]

Not frisson, but i think they said that the school indeed will have its own events and stuff to do there

Nice. They seem to have a lot of ideas. Hope they know how to pace themselves so they don't start hating their own game or get super tired.

 

[MegaMiau]

Really great game, thanks for that. I like the mechanics and would love to see more outfits <3 High heels and stockings are always a good choice I'd also love to see what the lovely "Angel" wears during the day

 

[Seratna]

Yup. I started going to work early to skip the train. Then get to work and realize it's a bartender day and hit "rest for 60 seconds" until it's over because the boss is going to take my tips anyway. Maybe these can be salvaged but they're not fun as is.

I think Frisson should do a poll about this update on his Patreon, There are quite a few things that most likely did not meet with unanimous approval, at least with a poll, he will know what to focus on and really keep going and probably abandon some new things he tried.

Like you i found the subway mini game and the bartender really not funny and too long, is this the case for the majority ?

The subway was way better before this update.

 

[Kateterpeter]

Every time I come here because of a notification I see a huge argument lol wth? Now I remember why I avoided the thread until the update showed up.

Anyway I have some questions, maybe the dev will answer, maybe they won't. Can't blame Frisson_Studios for not wanting to look in here too often

- Will the school actually become a place with its own batch of events or will it remain as it is now?

- Will Angel eventually get to have multiple clothes to better fit her corruption level or lack of it outside the waitressing?

- Are there plans to include multiple unique events during waitressing (birthdays, bachelor party, depressed random, some guy with a fake id) and stuff?

- Will the boyfriend have an impact or participation in any of the events at the bar or will it be a more pure, romantic situation that could turn bad depending on the player's choices?

- You have more ideas for minigames or jobs for Angel that you are not quite sure if you will implement? Just curious.

- Any plans on making the "purer" Angel a little more rebel and harden her as she faces this mess, with her own benefits?

I'm just curious really.

No you don't, that's blatantly false! I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries!

Jokes aside though, yeah, people get pretty heated about the games they recieve for free on this site sometimes.

 

[shinonanao]

We all need to be patient. Between this and previous release - break in 4.5 month ... it's a sad...

It's better than others I've seen... for example, Being a Dick took over a year to release an update.

 

[Elminzter]

No you don't, that's blatantly false! I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries!

Jokes aside though, yeah, people get pretty heated about the games they recieve for free on this site sometimes.

what do u mean free its an unfinished product how is it even free, hey how about the players time testing out an unfinished buggy game... nothing is free in this world time is money....

 

[Notretsam]

First off, long feedback on last update but I'm super impressed with the update, it has a lot of new content and the new games are fun, well, mostly, they're some flaws. Essentially, the last update was like a first draft and some more polishing is needed.

The new train and bar game is fun but the Arousal goes up way to fast, it take a lot of the fun out of. It needs to be drastically reduced, especially after she first cums. The Arousal goes nuclear after the first time. I would suggest reducing it to about 25% of its current increase rate, it badly needs decreased significantly. Maybe could reduce somewhat and then add a skill that reduce it further.

I said in a past comment, the train was boring, its not anymore. It's nice to see some variety but certainly could do with more variety added over time. The kid falling asleep on her boobs was hilarious by the way.

I like the new bar game but when she serves a succesful beer needs work. Sometimes, I would say hi quickly, pour beer quick and then serve, they still not happy. I swear I got 8 at times and it seems the stats don't match what actually happens. I got total customers that seem much higher than what I actually got. I like the variety in type of bar shift though.

The new table she sits with is fun and the beer pouring on boobs was brilliant. I do think going from being tricked into kissing a dick, to spilling beer on mans crotch is a odd choice. I think that should be the other way around. The darts is fun but feels a bit OTT, I think that could be a random groper as she walking around bar.

I do agree with other comments, that the beach feels to much, more so the car sales job. I don't think that needed and also, some of the hair on male models at beach seem odd, specficially the male model who finds her phone and bra top. Some others feel like the hair doesn't quite match the model, but hair is a pain in the you know what.

I did enjoy most of the new content but I didn't like the Dick/Maid side of things. Also, didn't like the sound of him bringing his friends around either. I hope there be some choice options to opt out of some content, like Dick and the landlord, they just come across as super creepy to me.

I've already typed a short story lol so I wrap up, I think you got a solid foundation to work from, polish some things up and you got a great game here. awesome work on the update.

 

[stillspiff]

Just wanted to say I FUCKING LOVE THIS GAME now i'm off to become a patreon

 

[ronan333]

No you don't, that's blatantly false! I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries!

Jokes aside though, yeah, people get pretty heated about the games they recieve for free on this site sometimes.

You'd think this game was the Holy Grail.. I'd better leave before I get taunted a second time.

 

[Teacher44]

Sorry if this has been asked before, but in the cleaning table scene in the bar, one time they played a game and a guy pressed his penis on her lips... then in every other scene she has "spilled beer" and has to dry one guy... does the first scene return in this update? is there something specific that triggers it? thanks

 

[Kpopn00dcoverlover]

my quick 2 cents on the update.
- lots more photos, loving that. hoping something happens from people having those. hmm
- new subway part is, yawn for me. tedious in fact. had me using the cab as a skip button. too much to get to the point. the cutscenes tho? the new subway ones? the pantsing and stuff. yes please. more please.
- car crap i refused constantly, never saw those 2 scenes ever. the cooperative ones all popped tho. no problem.
- i STILL want something, anything more, from our first brother who stole the bra. still nothing. the clothes snatching at the shower too, only ever happens once. sad panda.
- and camgirl stuff, uh, bit of a let down. with the buildup was sorta waiting to find out it was a brother, or stalker, or DOM! no seriously. not dom. but a classmate? maybe the original classmate that showed it to her? hmmm. but just some random unknown simpy person who seems to like her? eh? ok. but let down.
- other beach stuff i saw. great. love it. towards the end, i took points in "cute nerd" to just go more often

 

[nobody14789]

The subway mini-game gets boring quick. Tried boosting her exhibition to 1 million (after 700, 800, 1000, and 10K didn't work) but she never gives in to lowering her panties. I would include some sort of message that that is the end of in-game content when a molester tries (and fails) to lower her panties. As is, the only way to get them down is for her to orgasm, and the molester to pull them down while she can't react (once she regains control she immediately pulls them back up).

The bartending game is ok, but mildly annoying since you make less money, and you can't increase exhibition on that day.

In a related note, the number of ways to increase exhibition seems out of whack. Any activity anywhere that results in her losing clothing ought to increase exhibition (i.e. subway/beach), and if she orgasms in public it ought to have a larger increase.

Also perhaps if she serves "completely nude" it ought to increase as well, it's mildly annoying to keep having to go back and put the panties back on each time they're taken off (also blocks "nude" content if you're constantly putting them back on to raise exhibition). Also breaks the immersion a little bit since realistically her exhibition would increase from performing/enduring lewd acts in the nude vs. going back to the bar repeatedly so that people could just take them right back off.

i.e. maybe:
- lose an article clothing (anywhere) = +1
- serve customers "nude" (waitress/bar) = +1
- orgasm in public (anywhere) = +5