Ren'Py Life's Payback [v2.3] [Vinkawa]

[Jeycii_]

For some reason every message i write here gets deleted by the mods for being "unrelated to the game" while i used to only write positive feedback on updates.

I dont critize Vinkawa at all and he has every right to do what the fuck he wants, im cool with that.

Also i understand that some people here dont like being called out even if they really only tried to complain.

But what i cant defend is all the shitlords here thinking that Vinkawa need any of his supporters ALSO hitting and insult those who critizise him.

It truly exploded the last few months how much you guys hate people who complain. You are like fanatics.

Vinkawa and his Game is awesome in any way. And there are truly just a few games that can be compared to it. And some dudes who linger in an pirate site like me wont make the game worse just because they write shit you dont like.

But thats just my opinion on it.

Its not about us being fanatics or anything (actually I am, but thats not the point). Its more bout someone you actually like constantly getting attacked by low effort posts by the same people. Vinkawa mentioned that the same old people or trolls even keep harassing him for MONTHS with random ass shit like: "low effort, bad quality, full of bugs, salty dev" while the dev himself is constantly pushing out high quality stuff, that one could barely get here on this site on a MONTHLY basis. (or 2 months for bigger updates lol)
On his discord he also admits sometimes that the insults and stuff is slowly getting to him (who could blame him), so yes. If you keep reading shit like that, you would also get defensive and try to at least get back at those clowns that have no good criticism, but only trashtalking going on on a weekly basis. You cant read them now, because the mods keep deleting all their stuff, but its really not tolerateable anymore...

 

[leene6ohCea]

futa scenes are non canon and they have a skip option, also members of the harem fuckin each other aint cucking

Someone else fucking your girl is you getting cucked lmao.

Sure it may not "technically" be NTR, but it's still cuck. It's literally NTS...

And by definition... that's not harem... that's an open relationship, which is just more NTS cuckery with extra steps.

 

[Lady_Kate]

For some reason every message i write here gets deleted by the mods for being "unrelated to the game" while i used to only write positive feedback on updates.

I dont critize Vinkawa at all and he has every right to do what the fuck he wants, im cool with that.

Also i understand that some people here dont like being called out even if they really only tried to complain.

But what i cant defend is all the shitlords here thinking that Vinkawa need any of his supporters ALSO hitting and insult those who critizise him.

It truly exploded the last few months how much you guys hate people who complain. You are like fanatics.

Vinkawa and his Game is awesome in any way. And there are truly just a few games that can be compared to it. And some dudes who linger in an pirate site like me wont make the game worse just because they write shit you dont like.

But thats just my opinion on it.

Fair criticism is one thing but blatant lies is another and don't get me started on personal attacks/ harassments towards the dev, there is a reason as to why more people have raised their voice against so many others in the past couple months.

Not much else for me to add to this, I would be repeating what a few others have said since they've already taken most of the words out of my mouth.

 

[Pinkgator]

Someone else fucking your girl is you getting cucked lmao.

Sure it may not "technically" be NTR, but it's still cuck. It's literally NTS...

And by definition... that's not harem... that's an open relationship, which is just more NTS cuckery with extra steps.

nah MC is fucking both. so let them have fun if one of them is acting up. happened both ways. Alice got Nina to lick her and Nina some revenge from the bullying.

 

[perperp]

Incredibly beautiful art style, great work

 

[Dyonisos]

IF your comment is directed at me, have the courage to address it to me directly. If it's not addressed to anyone in particular, I don't really know what you're complaining about. Amongst others, kink shaming is prohibited on the site, and that's a written rule for a reason. I don't report offensive posts unless they're addressed to me personally, and I don't defend Vinkawa or other devs, even though I appreciate their work. The devs are perfectly capable of defending themselves. I only intervene when I deem it necessary, and that's far too often. Unlike some others, I, or rather we, don't hide and we say what we think, whether you like it or not. Not here for likes or the illusion of fleeting fame. I know perfectly well that criticism is necessary, as I also work in media entertainment. The comment I responded to was neither relevant nor intended to report a bug or any other constructive issue. It was directed as an insult towards the dev, which is different. You don't like something in the game? Then say so without insulting the dev AND those who do like it. Futa isn't my thing, and I'm only mentioning it now, to each their own. I don't know what you could have written for all your posts to be deleted. We often write impertinent things in the threads, some of our posts are deleted for that reason, others aren't, and I don't blame anyone else for it. So instead of pointing fingers at other members of the site, think about what's wrong with you. Fyi, It gives us no pleasure to use such language. Sorry if I blew a fuse, but like it or not, it's our opinion all the same.
Peace
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You should really take some time off if you need to crash out at me for stating an objective observative opinion of mine what is happening in this Thread. I spoke about everybody who took it at tad to serious if someone states a controversial opinion. Never about anyone specific. But you definitely are one of those people i talked about alone from your reaction to my post.

No bad blood here, just a misunderstanding from your side, i guess.

 

[Dyonisos]

Its not about us being fanatics or anything (actually I am, but thats not the point). Its more bout someone you actually like constantly getting attacked by low effort posts by the same people. Vinkawa mentioned that the same old people or trolls even keep harassing him for MONTHS with random ass shit like: "low effort, bad quality, full of bugs, salty dev" while the dev himself is constantly pushing out high quality stuff, that one could barely get here on this site on a MONTHLY basis. (or 2 months for bigger updates lol)
On his discord he also admits sometimes that the insults and stuff is slowly getting to him (who could blame him), so yes. If you keep reading shit like that, you would also get defensive and try to at least get back at those clowns that have no good criticism, but only trashtalking going on on a weekly basis. You cant read them now, because the mods keep deleting all their stuff, but its really not tolerateable anymore...

I understand that, ive been watching and following this thread and since day 1. But i,m realistic person. One does never satisfy the trolls, especially on the internet. You can ignore them, ban them or even try to talk back to them it wont stop.

But thats not my point i was trying to make. (Should have said it in my last post) Its about new people who join here and maybe even thought about supporting vinkawa. They most likely read trough some of the posts here and will get wrong idea about the community or Vinkawa himself by all this over the top bashing which will scare them away. Ive seen it already happen to other devs in their threads and i dont wish for Vinkawa to have the same fate losing a part of his community (or income) by such stupid things.

 

[Jeycii_]

I understand that, ive been watching and following this thread and since day 1. But i,m realistic person. One does never satisfy the trolls, especially on the internet. You can ignore them, ban them or even try to talk back to them it wont stop.

But thats not my point i was trying to make. (Should have said it in my last post) Its about new people who join here and maybe even thought about supporting vinkawa. They most likely read trough some of the posts here and will get wrong idea about the community or Vinkawa himself by all this over the top bashing which will scare them away. Ive seen it already happen to other devs in their threads and i dont wish for Vinkawa to have the same fate losing a part of his community (or income) by such stupid things.

i dunno. If anything newcomers would usually run away from reading shit posts from the trolls. One can always try to ignore them, but at one point you just boil over.
He tried several times to just ignore them, but if those guys keep harassing him on a weekly basis or at least for every update he gets out after countless sleepless nights, you will just eventually break. You can be Buddha and still explode someday.
If anything the newcomers will see, that he will try to defend himself at least and perhaps they will also see, that he has a core fanbase that is at least willing to go some length for him...

 

[Dyonisos]

i dunno. If anything newcomers would usually run away from reading shit posts from the trolls. One can always try to ignore them, but at one point you just boil over.
He tried several times to just ignore them, but if those guys keep harassing him on a weekly basis or at least for every update he gets out after countless sleepless nights, you will just eventually break. You can be Buddha and still explode someday.
If anything the newcomers will see, that he will try to defend himself at least and perhaps they will also see, that he has a core fanbase that is at least willing to go some length for him...

I think you didnt understand when i meant that potential subscribers could be scared away i meant not the trolls. I meant when they read literall witch hunts on people who state their opinions or critics.

And dont get me wrong. If those opinions are truly are trash then i dont say anything and you can talk to them like you want.
But its about those who dont really have any bad things to say, truly only little critcs on the games mechanics or maybe content that repeats itself and so on.

Treating everyone all the same is unfair. Just as it is unfair for Vinkawa to have all this controversial around him.
Be respectful to those who dont mean any harm. We know of those who troll.

 

[Goofygooberhaha]

Bro everyone just needs chill out and goon it's not that deep✌

 

[Jeycii_]

I think you didnt understand when i meant that potential subscribers could be scared away i meant not the trolls. I meant when they read literall witch hunts on people who state their opinions or critics.

And dont get me wrong. If those opinions are truly are trash then i dont say anything and you can talk to them like you want.
But its about those who dont really have any bad things to say, truly only little critcs on the games mechanics or maybe content that repeats itself and so on.

Treating everyone all the same is unfair. Just as it is unfair for Vinkawa to have all this controversial around him.
Be respectful to those who dont mean any harm. We know of those who troll.

So who of those poor guys asking pure questions and are giving fair critiques, which we are seemingly witch hunting, are you talking about exactly?
Im not entirely sure what you are even trying to get at, as we arent witch hunting innocent guys anyway?
There were some guys acting all butthurt, after Vinkawa told them some facts like there are 10% anal and 90% other scenes happening after they said its a purely made anal game. Then they got all defensive for no reason, thinking Vinkawa was trying to be mean. Its them that misunderstood. Sure they could have become supporters, but you cant tiptoes on everyone for the small chance, they could become a supporter.

In the end you will only support, if you truly believe in some kind of potential for the game and the dev. And if he gets all butthurt from harmless statement from the dev himself, he probably wouldnt survive any more interaction with him either... just saying.

 

[Dyonisos]

So who of those poor guys asking pure questions and are giving fair critiques, which we are seemingly witch hunting, are you talking about exactly?
Im not entirely sure what you are even trying to get at, as we arent witch hunting innocent guys anyway?
There were some guys acting all butthurt, after Vinkawa told them some facts like there are 10% anal and 90% other scenes happening after they said its a purely made anal game. Then they got all defensive for no reason, thinking Vinkawa was trying to be mean. Its them that misunderstood. Sure they could have become supporters, but you cant tiptoes on everyone for the small chance, they could become a supporter.

In the end you will only support, if you truly believe in some kind of potential for the game and the dev. And if he gets all butthurt from harmless statement from the dev himself, he probably wouldnt survive any more interaction with him either... just saying.

I see you dont read my posts right.

1. I never stated that Vinkawa is in the wrong when he gives feedback.
2. I only stated that all the people who shit on critics that meant no harm, become completly apeshit.
3. Downplaying and pointing things to the ridiclious wont make any impact on my opinion.
4. This is one of those reactions i was talking about by the way.

 

[Jeycii_]

I see you dont read my posts right.

1. I never stated that Vinkawa is in the wrong when he gives feedback.
2. I only stated that all the people who shit on critics that meant no harm, become completly apeshit.
3. Downplaying and pointing things to the ridiclious wont make any impact on my opinion.
4. This is one of those reactions i was talking about by the way.

... I really dont know what your problem is. You keep telling me I dont understand what you are writing about and that you are only stating facts.
I keep telling you that your facts are pointless, because they are false.

You dont seem to understand any points im making, so I will just pretend you arent there for my mental health man...

 

[Curious14!]

Hi,
A little help please cos my previous post was ignored ? How do I make money please ? My inventory shows $0 and I need to give Anne $50 . Thanks.

 

[Aphex81]

I wish there was a game without these comically large tits. Very unappealing.

 

[Fatalfury10]

it's not that deep View attachment 5411859

That's what she said.

 

[Goofygooberhaha]

I wish there was a game without these comically large tits. Very unappealing.

 

[byzon2]

Hi,
A little help please cos my previous post was ignored ? How do I make money please ? My inventory shows $0 and I need to give Anne $50 . Thanks.

You can make money at the "office" in "city" when its morning.

 

[Fatalfury10]

futa scenes are non canon and they have a skip option, also members of the harem fuckin each other aint cucking

Non-canon? So is the cat girl actually a futa or not? If so then every time MC (I forgot his default name) was plowing her or making her blow him, this was male on futa the whole time. We need more games where the MC is giving those devious backshots to a futanari and not the other way around. I'm just saying. Bro needs to treat her better though and I think that

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One can only hope on that part though.

 

[Vinkawa]

Non-canon? So is the cat girl actually a futa or not? If so then every time MC (I forgot his default name) was plowing her or making her blow him, this was male on futa the whole time. We need more games where the MC is giving those devious backshots to a futanari and not the other way around. I'm just saying. Bro needs to treat her better though and I think that

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One can only hope on that part though.

Life's Payback has two distinct universes. If you chose to avoid the futa scene, Nina will never have the opportunity to use Lumeria's magic to give herself a penis.
I confirm that what is canon to the story is her being a cat girl with a pussy and nothing else. The futa content is just some extra stuff I wanted to implement after fapping to too many videos on Rule34.

Also let's not forget it's literally TWO animations out of 90+ and they're both avoidable. People tend to forget this when they call me a futa cuck on this thread.

I will soon implement an option allowing anyone to never hear about futa throughout the entire game.

As for the way the MC treats her, I agree that she shouldn't deserve this story plot, but as you saw, I'm gradually developing a narrative arc of redemption in her story, where he starts to be nicer to her.