- May 9, 2018
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That's fine. Patreon is not a store though. It's a tip jar. Keep that in mind.
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It's not like we aren't kept up to date on the progress each week. Last week's progress chart (which was copied into this thread) showed 70 hours of development. Normally is closer to 40-50. The developer has stated time and again that he doesn't plan to bring on any other persons to the team and why he doesn't plan to.
The last two chapters were about a year each in development. Chapter 7 appears similar.
From the OP: Also, time between updates is long, but updates are huge.
The last two chapters were about a year each in development. Chapter 7 appears similar.
From the OP: Also, time between updates is long, but updates are huge.
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Yeah, 30 minutes a day, 140 days a week.
Every single week he lets us know how much time he's put into this masterpiece, but of course, some people know better than to read the facts posted here.
- Dec 24, 2018
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If you've ever spent some time on Naughty's Discord server, you would know he's 100% upfront about his workflow and release schedule. Chapter 6 was somewhere around a year. So why act all upset now? He doesn't do these monthly 200 render updates with 1 scene and a bad case of blue balls, like so many others do on here.
As for the amount of work... LOL! He's at 1648 hours on this chapter, as of a week ago. A standard full time job is 2080 hours per year. He's easily going to top that in less than a year on this update. A year ago, I wondered at how much work could this take, but now that I am working on my own game, I know it takes a LOT. Spending hours to get a single render just right, when it's only going to be viewed a few seconds. I just spent the last three days, 12 hours per day, making a single scene with about 145 renders. And I still have the post work to do and, down the road, weeks of coding.
These games are unique niche products somewhat like art, or maybe novels. Writers can take years to make a novel, and you can't just farm creativity out. Like someone mentioned above, Patreon is not a store, it's a tip jar. People support creators because they want them to do good work. After all, Naughty Roads, like many other Adult VN makers, releases his games for free.
Heh, the old "why doesn't a guy that makes somewhat south of minimum wage on this after fees and taxes hire on more people out of his pocket?". Classic.
And you got weekly updates on progress and time spent on the project, which is, like others already pointed out, more than the average full time job on a weekly basis, and that on top of a second job.
Thanks for four months of support (seriously, much appreciated), but tbh, I'm not sad to see you go (assuming you did), 'cause this type of toxic patron behavior is just what is causing devs all over, who are already in perpetual crunch to try and get their baby to see the light of day, to burn out on their projects and give up. Send me a direct message on patreon and I'll gladly refund you and see you on your way for good.
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- Jul 17, 2017
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Just goes to show that no matter what you do there will always be some guy/gal that isn't happy which is why you should always please yourself first.
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I have played hundreds of games, but I must admit one thing, I have never met such annoying characters in any game, I have approached this game several times and although the story is interesting, the characters in this game do their best not to continue the game...
- Oct 1, 2017
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i quote:
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If it's not your thing, please don't comment about it. We will delete those comments.
Also, time between updates is long, but updates are huge.
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Former mod of DarkCookie here. How do i explain the difference to you. DarkCookie has himself to draw the art but in terms of coding, bugfixes and anything else Sploosh is the boss about anything else besides drawing and he has a few people working on that and updates got larger and larger and the time between updates got bigger and bigger.
With this game you have 1 man working on the entire project and one man alone. Also from the mods
Also, time between updates is long, but updates are huge.
So i do not really understand your problem here. You are comparing a one man dev vs a team of people making an also way bigger game than this.
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Well, it's not like you paid for the game or anything, right...?
- Sep 24, 2017
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But what if I use this game for that...I need my fix man. I demand a sequel + spinoffs announcement trailers tomorrow and actual trailers end of this week plus a playable beta on monday. You can deliver all that on monday right naughtyroad? Where is that Marvel MCU 10 year roadmap and why haven't you delivered it before I asked you to? It's basic stuff, everyone can do it so I need you to do it for me. NOW.
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Trebuchet, Trebuchet
If no Bears are around you
Post "new update when, I need you"
Thinking 'Dev just goes delay"
Trebuchet, Trebuchet
These update times are shady
Work on this is lazy
Is this gonna change?
Trebuchet, Trebuchet
If no Bears are around you
Post "new update when, I need you"
Thinking 'Dev just goes delay"
Trebuchet, Trebuchet
These update times are shady
Work on this is lazy
But when it gets here it's insane
Any other day
I would call and you would say
Baby how's the game
But today, it is the same
Every other word
Is "when??" yeah "delayed"
Could it be that you,
Are at the crib with another AAA Game
If you took it there
First of all, let me say
I am not the one
To sit around, and be played
So prove yourself to me
I am the Release date that you claim
Why don't you say the dates
That you posted here yesterday
I know you say that I am assuming things
Something's going down that's the way it seems
Shouldn't be the reason why you're acting strange
If nobody's holding you back from release
'Cause I know how you usually post
When you say everything to me times quote
Why can't you just tell the date
If somebody's there then tell me when
Trebuchet, Trebuchet
If no Bears are around you
Post "new update when, I need you"
Thinking 'Dev just goes delay"
Trebuchet, Trebuchet
These update times are shady
Work on this is lazy
Is this gonna change?
Trebuchet, Trebuchet
If no Bears are around you
Post "new update when, I need you"
Thinking 'Dev just goes delay"
Trebuchet, Trebuchet
These update times are shady
Work on this is lazy
But when it gets here it's insane...
E; this is satire ofc. <3 you naughty road keep doing what you do. at your own tempo.
- Oct 1, 2017
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After my "Take me home naughtyroad" song this is the second song i hereby declare as an official anthem to the game.
Well done. We need way more stuff like this.
- Jun 30, 2022
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Jesus Christ, I stopped playing this game originally when the older one got all pissed because of what he said after the bar(I REALLY don't like conflict in my games)....I was a fool, this game is very damned good. Just started Chapter 5! Little one is a freak and its hot.
- Mar 10, 2020
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It's very nice to see so much bullying on this forum... Keep going, you are the kid that makes his appearance when everything's already happened to seek approval from the othersso instead you just pop in and ask a stupid question, and wait for someone to respond? Way faster to grab a cup of coffee and spend 30 seconds to find the answer
- Sep 28, 2017
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He never commented about their looks though?
- Oct 1, 2017
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True that but in general 99/100 posts when ppl complain about this game is how the girls look. I know my bears when i see them. However i am willing to give him the benefit of a doubt and assume he meant their personality.
Man, you go boy, snap backHeh, the old "why doesn't a guy that makes somewhat south of minimum wage on this after fees and taxes hire on more people out of his pocket?". Classic.
And you got weekly updates on progress and time spent on the project, which is, like others already pointed out, more than the average full time job on a weekly basis, and that on top of a second job.
Thanks for four months of support (seriously, much appreciated), but tbh, I'm not sad to see you go (assuming you did), 'cause this type of toxic patron behavior is just what is causing devs all over, who are already in perpetual crunch to try and get their baby to see the light of day, to burn out on their projects and give up. Send me a direct message on patreon and I'll gladly refund you and see you on your way for good.
Too much entitlement to deal with in this universe, cosmologists had it wrong; it's entitlement -> dark energy -> dark matter -> normal matter
- Feb 19, 2019
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No worries. Trebuchets generate enough energy to annihilate all forms of entitlement. The space time continuum will continue.Man, you go boy, snap back