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Miðgarðsormr

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1. LomL is being developed by one man alone with a day job and a marriage therefore can not work 12 hours a day on this project while living in his moms basement saving rent and telling gullible people to fund his way through life for some fapping pictures.

2. naughtyroad does not yet make enough money to quit his day job and work on this full time. Even if that was the case he isn't sure about doing so cause despite what other devs claim to get you to spend more money on them to bullshit you in believing they work fulltime on the game afterwards this is a big life changing decision cause if it goes sideways this also could influence his real life and his marriage.

3. naughtyroad presents his game in chapters. Instead of giving you like "other devs" an update peer week or month with 20 renders and jackshit in terms of story progression you get an entire chapter with bug fix and tested gameplay so you will not crash once you download and play it. Also this is HIS choice on how he wants to present each update. Not yours not mine.

A render takes 20 minutes, a solid one as you described takes about an hour. So in conclusion you have 0 knowledge of the topic you try to argue. As to make 200 renders would take 200 hours that is render time alone. Not including, posing, lightning, coding, writing, bugfixing etc.

What some people think about the pace of development has to concern us why exactly? If they dislike it they can cry to the mod who will show them the door. If they find the characters unattractive the mod will also show them the door or the banhammer.
Beauty lies in the eye of the beholder so there is no right or wrong as beauty is subjective in your daily life.

And that is literally scratching the surface of what this game has to offer. I could take the game in its current state and walk into a university and teach students how you portray the 5 stages of grief with the art of VN or by the writen dialouge alone.

Or to put it more simply. Giving this game a 1 star review is like telling students of literature that Goethe couldn't write for shit and should have been a farmer instead.

Edit: Thank you to the mod cleaning up. But God damn you guys are fast :ROFLMAO: :love:
 
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A.K.A87

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Hey ,,,, my post wasn't off topic,, but for the greater good of the thread i'm alright with it being deleted :).
You keep doing you Naughty.... it works for me and a lot of others.
Is there a progress update ?
 

Miðgarðsormr

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Hey ,,,, my post wasn't off topic,, but for the greater good of the thread i'm alright with it being deleted :).
You keep doing you Naughty.... it works for me and a lot of others.
Is there a progress update ?
Yes there is. But i need to find the right words for it. BADA BING BADA BOOM NEW PROGRESS BAR IN THE ROOM!!!!!!

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We are getting there......not there there but somewhere......you know that i mean.....
 
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Dragon59

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Edit: Thank you to the mod cleaning up. But God damn you guys are fast :ROFLMAO: :love:
I think I need to stop using Multi-quote. Some moderators will edit multi-quotes, removing those related to deleted threads, others just delete the whole post.
 

Miðgarðsormr

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I think I need to stop using Multi-quote. Some moderators will edit multi-quotes, removing those related to deleted threads, others just delete the whole post.
Ha ha same. I was in the middle of answering some stuff when i noticed 10 or more posts being gone already :ROFLMAO:
 

Dragon59

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I should probably repeat one thing that was definitely on-topic in one of those multi-quotes, the claim that father/daughter(s) stories are pretty common.

My observation was that tying the story to the story of Lot and his Daughters was a masterwork. In my mind it gave a very strong framework to the game.

I wonder who will be doing the (not quite NTR) story of Onan? The one where he was expected to impregnate his elder brother's widowed wife in order to give his dead brother an heir (instead of inheriting himself, I believe). Do you impregnate your sister-in-law as dictated by custom, or be selfish and pull out?

After that, the Songs of Solomon!
 

Miðgarðsormr

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I should probably repeat one thing that was definitely on-topic in one of those multi-quotes, the claim that father/daughter(s) stories are pretty common.

My observation was that tying the story to the story of Lot and his Daughters was a masterwork. In my mind it gave a very strong framework to the game.

I wonder who will be doing the (not quite NTR) story of Onan? The one where he was expected to impregnate his elder brother's widowed wife in order to give his dead brother an heir (instead of inheriting himself, I believe). Do you impregnate your sister-in-law as dictated by custom, or be selfish and pull out?

After that, the Songs of Solomon!
This was also my observation. But the kicker for me is you have 5 elements in the game that you might not see at first sight.

1. The 5 stages of grief and how they all try to overcome their stages inside the story.

2. The story of Lot and his daughters is used by Denise to establish a loving and caring family once again. It's like she is so scared and shy of everything but not around her family and once she sees that others went a different way in their lives she instantly focuses all attention on that and like a machine she focuses all her energy on this goal to get a happy loving family once again.

3. A portrayal of Macy as Monster and Denise as the innocent victim but also savior of said monster is a masterpiece in and of itself as you portray a psychological struggle in a visual way. And don't forget that Denise is also talking with her mom in the afterlife and getting approval. If that is just in her mind or really happening is up to the viewer.

4. Half-orphans often struggle in life and act almost balistic once the remaining parent introduces a new girl or boyfriend. Having Brooke as a potential surrogate mother introduced to the girls portrays that so perfect as macy instantly goes balistic and leaves before she punches someone in the face. Presumably the MC for daring to put his dick into someone else but her. :ROFLMAO:

5. The office ladies at first glance are a side dish for the MC to enjoy but are actually a representation of what a mother and wife is or becomes in different stages of her life.

One is like a girlfriend that is not afraid of getting her kinks satisfied in her younger days before she settles down and starts a married life and has kids. No ring on this finger so everything is fair game papi.... oh and daddy issues ofc as all girlfriends have.

One is pregnant which means having a child under her heart that she is protecting while her own needs are only secondary to her.

One is already a mother and wife and still enjoys a sex life if she gets the chance of having one as her duties of mother and wife often end up interfering with her sex life and her needs in that regard.

If all those 5 things were intended is beyond me but after my first time playing it i was mighty impressed with what i saw.

As for the story of Onan.

You do your duty and please that booty and no pulling out.... the family line is at stake ffs.

Hmm the songs of solomon would be quite interesting depending on the approach of it.

But if we go down that rabbit hole we could find alot of stuff in that regard and make a interesting story about it like LomL.
Like Nahor and Milcah or Abraham and Sarah would make also an interesting story in a modern approach.

Also Noah would fit that boat to some degree depending on which literature you take for the story. Does his son end up with a wife of his own before humanity dies out or does he wait till his sister in law gives birth and wait 18 years to get some?
Or maybe Noah only had daughters and took the crucial task of repopulation all to himself?

And of course Oedipus but how you put the sphinx into that story is beyond me :ROFLMAO:

Oedipus: Would you look at that. A head like a human but the body of a lion.
Sphinx: Hello Motherfucker.
Oedipus: he he wait what?
 

Dragon59

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So much here to unpack! I love it!!
This was also my observation. But the kicker for me is you have 5 elements in the game that you might not see at first sight.

1. The 5 stages of grief and how they all try to overcome their stages inside the story.
Very true. Something that is easy to miss. The story is ultimately about how they find their way through the stages.
2. The story of Lot and his daughters is used by Denise to establish a loving and caring family once again. It's like she is so scared and shy of everything but not around her family and once she sees that others went a different way in their lives she instantly focuses all attention on that and like a machine she focuses all her energy on this goal to get a happy loving family once again.
Very true. Something that is easy to miss. The story is ultimately about how they find their way through the stages.
3. A portrayal of Macy as Monster and Denise as the innocent victim but also savior of said monster is a masterpiece in and of itself as you portray a psychological struggle in a visual way. And don't forget that Denise is also talking with her mom in the afterlife and getting approval. If that is just in her mind or really happening is up to the viewer.
Yes. Denise is trying to heal Macy's beast within. VERY symbolic as well.
4. Half-orphans often struggle in life and act almost balistic once the remaining parent introduces a new girl or boyfriend. Having Brooke as a potential surrogate mother introduced to the girls portrays that so perfect as macy instantly goes balistic and leaves before she punches someone in the face. Presumably the MC for daring to put his dick into someone else but her. :ROFLMAO:
True. Denise accepts Brooke because he wants happiness for her Dad (I'm not even going to add P-friendly terms). Sometimes, younger half-orphans do embrace the new parental figure, but I expect that's often influenced by age as well as temperament.
5. The office ladies at first glance are a side dish for the MC to enjoy but are actually a representation of what a mother and wife is or becomes in different stages of her life.

One is like a girlfriend that is not afraid of getting her kinks satisfied in her younger days before she settles down and starts a married life and has kids. No ring on this finger so everything is fair game papi.... oh and daddy issues ofc as all girlfriends have.

One is pregnant which means having a child under her heart that she is protecting while her own needs are only secondary to her.

One is already a mother and wife and still enjoys a sex life if she gets the chance of having one as her duties of mother and wife often end up interfering with her sex life and her needs in that regard.
Given that they are colloquially known as The Coven, these three Witches may be seen as three aspects of the Triple Goddess: Maiden, Mother, and Crone. Together, they help bring the MC growth and comfort.
If all those 5 things were intended is beyond me but after my first time playing it i was mighty impressed with what i saw.
Very true. I like to think that the touching of all these archetypes and symbols is not an accident. It does make me a little sad for those who turn their backs on the game without trying it.

Every time we talk, the game seems even richer. Thank you!
As for the story of Onan.

You do your duty and please that booty and no pulling out.... the family line is at stake ffs.

Hmm the songs of solomon would be quite interesting depending on the approach of it.

But if we go down that rabbit hole we could find alot of stuff in that regard and make a interesting story about it like LomL.
Like Nahor and Milcah or Abraham and Sarah would make also an interesting story in a modern approach.

Also Noah would fit that boat to some degree depending on which literature you take for the story. Does his son end up with a wife of his own before humanity dies out or does he wait till his sister in law gives birth and wait 18 years to get some?
Or maybe Noah only had daughters and took the crucial task of repopulation all to himself?
Yup. Abraham & Sarah: Unicorn Hunting.
After the Flood might make an interesting game...
And of course Oedipus but how you put the sphinx into that story is beyond me :ROFLMAO:

Oedipus: Would you look at that. A head like a human but the body of a lion.
Sphinx: Hello Motherfucker.
Oedipus: he he wait what?
That's good! Now I'm thinking
From the Bible to the popular song
There's one theme that we find right along
Of all ideals they hail as good
The most sublime is motherhood

There was a man though, who it seems
Once carried this ideal to extremes
He loved his mother and she loved him
And yet his story is rather grim

There once lived a man named Oedipus Rex
You may have heard about his odd complex
His name appears in Freud's index
'Cause he loved his mother!
 

Miðgarðsormr

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i think i replayed the game 5 or 6 time since the last update came out...i so cant wait for the next one
im really crossing my fingers for a summer release!
Yes i replayed it as well a couple of times..... a bit more tough..... with a zero attached to the numbers!

But i am not addicted... i can stop anytime i want.....stop judging me.....NO YOU have a Problem.....I'm Fine....I TOLD YOU I AM FINE!!!!

WHERE THE FUCK IS MY SAVE??? IF I DON'T GET MY SAVE IN THE NEXT 20 SECONDS......Oh there it is........ all good.
 
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Yes i replayed it as well a couple of times..... a bit more tough..... with a zero attached to the numbers!

But i am not addicted... i can stop anytime i want.....stop judging me.....NO YOU have a Problem.....I'm Fine....I TOLD YOU I AM FINE!!!!

WHERE THE FUCK IS MY SAVE??? IF I DON'T GET MY SAVE IN THE NEXT 20 SECONDS......Oh there it is........ all good.

So a completely normal, relaxed day of games just like mine... :p
 

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I wonder who will be doing the (not quite NTR) story of Onan?
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After that, the Songs of Solomon!
Well, the other day after stumbling across this image...
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...I did think a little about reimagining the story of Ruth and Naomi as a short form sapphic spring-autumn love story where the older mentor Naomi has to send her young daughter-in-law lover Ruth away after the death of Naomi's sons leaves them without a means to keep up the pretense (with dour looking other daughter-in-law Orpah to the right there urging them to cut it out, worried as she is about what the neighbors will say). OTOH, I don't wanna just be "that guy that does bible stuff", so it'll probably stay with thinking.
 

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Well, the other day after stumbling across this image...
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...I did think a little about reimagining the story of Ruth and Naomi as a short form sapphic spring-autumn love story where the older mentor Naomi has to send her young daughter-in-law lover Ruth away after the death of Naomi's sons leaves them without a means to keep up the pretense (with dour looking other daughter-in-law Orpah to the right there urging them to cut it out, worried as she is about what the neighbors will say). OTOH, I don't wanna just be "that guy that does bible stuff", so it'll probably stay with thinking.
Could be something you hold onto for the next next project? But yeah, I understand not wanting to be pigeon holed, it's really uncomfortable without enough lube.

Hope you and the family are well.
 
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