Tuffbee

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It's a reward for sir/ma'am tier patrons/subscribers that want it. Not everyone does though as it's in a rough state at that point, and (like myself) many prefer to have their first play in a polished version. I am very grateful for the ones that do help out testinging and proofing.
I'm a great fan of your game. When is your completed version chapter 5 coming?
 

hmc15

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Pfff amateur.....
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This update is taking so long because naughtyroad explained many times now that he wants to give us a whole chapter instead of many tiny ones as he feels it works better that way. And i have to agree on that one. If i think about many other games on this forum who get updates almost weekly where you have to download 2 GB of data to see 10 new pictures (which is absolutely ridiculous) you start to appreciate the longer wait for a bigger update.
When people complain about this game I can't help but CTFU. LOML has elevated and distinguished itself as THE GAME among the top games...Milfy City, Being a DIK, DMD, AWAM, etc. At this point I rank LOML above those games and pretty much every other game. Why? NR is a great creator with a STORY and CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT.

AWAM is comparable in terms of quality but those updates are less frequent and have less content like the "tiny updates" youre talking about. Great game, no doubt, but AWAM creator L&P made a project that is too big for ANY SINGLE creator and he refuses to accept help. Sadly, this game will fizzle and die unless as people are already starting to jump ship

Milfy City was a fun project but it was kind of the BEST of the BRAINLESS story/character development. Creator didn't know what to do with it and game is basically abandoned as a result...but ICSTOR def got paid which seemed to be his primary motive all along

DMD was INITIALLY the best game of its sub-genre but it never evolved from what it was. The game shouldve been much shorter OR expanded and has instead become overly repetitive and a "tiny update" game.

NR can take the time he needs. He does accept patrons/$$ but this project seems to be more than just a means to an end for him. He genuinely cares about the project and story. It comes out in the quality of his product and I'd rather 2 STRONG chapters each year than 4-5 mini updates...with more focus on deadlines than on quality.
 

Miðgarðsormr

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When people complain about this game I can't help but CTFU. LOML has elevated and distinguished itself as THE GAME among the top games...Milfy City, Being a DIK, DMD, AWAM, etc. At this point I rank LOML above those games and pretty much every other game. Why? NR is a great creator with a STORY and CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT.

AWAM is comparable in terms of quality but those updates are less frequent and have less content like the "tiny updates" youre talking about. Great game, no doubt, but AWAM creator L&P made a project that is too big for ANY SINGLE creator and he refuses to accept help. Sadly, this game will fizzle and die unless as people are already starting to jump ship

Milfy City was a fun project but it was kind of the BEST of the BRAINLESS story/character development. Creator didn't know what to do with it and game is basically abandoned as a result...but ICSTOR def got paid which seemed to be his primary motive all along

DMD was INITIALLY the best game of its sub-genre but it never evolved from what it was. The game shouldve been much shorter OR expanded and has instead become overly repetitive and a "tiny update" game.

NR can take the time he needs. He does accept patrons/$$ but this project seems to be more than just a means to an end for him. He genuinely cares about the project and story. It comes out in the quality of his product and I'd rather 2 STRONG chapters each year than 4-5 mini updates...with more focus on deadlines than on quality.
My rants in the AWAM thread lead to to Dr. Pinkcake hitting me up on writing advice back on Acting Lessons. That man is gifted no doubt.
Milfy City started on solid ground but something happend that always happen if you don't know where to go with your story and making stuff up as you go. You write yourself in a corner and can't escape your own screw up and toss it out the window.
DMD is already way to long and everyone can see that.

But naughtyroad doesn't need advice in that regard as he understand the 3 fundamentals of a good story already. Which makes him even more gifted.

1. Less is more. (AWAM is a prime example of how to ruin your story by years of build up which can only go downward. If the build up is longer than the payoff wtf you even trying to do with your story?)
2. Believable characters have edges. (Denise and Macy are the most fledged out in depth characters in any story of any game on this forum. You like and dislike some of their behaviour like real ppl they have edges. Some you like, some you dislike. But overall the likeable traits outweigh the negative ones.)
3. He instantly provides hooks of all sorts inside his story. (if he realizes it or not thats the AAA game in writing)

A hook is something many writers struggle with to establish because they overthink it. The dead wife and mother to macy and denise is such a hook. But instead of what many devs do "you know that happend.... anyway look at those tits right here" and wonder why their characters feel shallow and empty and ppl forget about their characters in 2 minutes after finishing the update.
naughtyroad understands that you can be subtle about an emotional hook.
He shows you how the MC and the girls struggle with the loss of a loved one in certain moments. Self doubts, Moments in which the family as a whole struggles only to embrace each others comfort stronger than before.
Not to much but exactly the right amount so you feel an emotional hook and understand their motives for certain behaviour.

Maybe naughtyroad has not realized this himself or maybe this was his intention from the start! I can't tell but do you know the 5 stages of grief? Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, Acceptance,

And when you play the game you see those stages inside the story happening. Replay the game and watch if you can catch all 5 stages. The game is not only good because the story feels right and the characters have depth. From a writing point of view this is literally AAA Material.

The moment i realized that all 5 stages of grief are portrayed inside this story so far blew my mind. Because of intentionally being put there or not this is quite a feat to pull off inside a story to not make it obvious but subtle like a painting in the background for you to find if you look for it.

So while many people like the game for obvious reasons. Writers like myself can play and find such things and be amazed how easy he makes it look to put something in there for you to find and enjoy.
I also rather wait for 2 to 3 updates a year in the same quality as some rushed content by many on their games who don't even come close to half the quality being presented here.
 

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My rants in the AWAM thread lead to to Dr. Pinkcake hitting me up on writing advice back on Acting Lessons. That man is gifted no doubt.
No idea who you are, what qualifies you to talk like you're being condescending to everyone or anything else but, DPC obviously didn't listen to you.

As for the rest regarding this...pretty accurate I'll agree.
 

Miðgarðsormr

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No idea who you are, what qualifies you to talk like you're being condescending or anything else but, DPC obviously didn't listen to you.

As for the rest regarding this...pretty accurate I'll agree.
And thank god for no one knowing who i am in this forum xD
1. I write for over 20 years now for a living and mentioned that when ripping AWAM's story apart from a writing point of view. Since i have no clue about game developing i keep my mouth shut in that regard as i only could make a fool out of myself on that topic xD
2. He asked for advice in character development back on initial release on Acting lessons. I gave 10 points and thats about it.

Thanks as english is not my native tounge ^^
 

Bill_Buttlicker

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No idea who you are, what qualifies you to talk like you're being condescending to everyone or anything else but, DPC obviously didn't listen to you.

As for the rest regarding this...pretty accurate I'll agree.
You obviously didn't read his entire post. He clearly said he is a "WRITER" with no condescension what so ever. I think that qualifies him to talk about the intricacies of writing, don't you think? :WeSmart:
 

Miðgarðsormr

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Actually bettafish.org .. but doesn't fit the BETA name .. oppsss :)

You said you were a writer .. and English is not you native tongue .. based on your name, are you Icelandic? Just curious.
Ha ha no worries there. And no! Sadly i am not but i always loved the scandinavian folklore and mythology. Especially about Yggdrasil, Jörmugandr, Ragnarök or Wödan and his kind. Or all of Midgard in general probably because the first book i bought myself when i was a kid was about that stuff ^^
 

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Ha ha no worries there. And no! Sadly i am not but i always loved the scandinavian folklore and mythology. Especially about Yggdrasil, Jörmugandr, Ragnarök or Wödan and his kind. Or all of Midgard in general probably because the first book i bought myself when i was a kid was about that stuff ^^
No worries - that is like me and the Arthurian legend. Mordred being King Arthur's son ... etc. I was just curious .. I was in Iceland last fall and fell in love with the country so I was just curious.
 
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Miðgarðsormr

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No worries - that is like me and the Arthurian legend. Mordred being King Arthur's son ... etc. I was just curious .. I was in Iceland last fall and fell in love with the country so I was just curious.
That is still on my to do list to visit that country. But i hear it is wonderful.
The Arthurian legend is also a fine read. If you didn't saw it already i can recommend the movie "Excalibur" on that. Old but still gold in my book.

When new update ?
As Naughtyroad said a few posts before in a few days we get the new update. Until then hold the line. :)
 

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That is still on my to do list to visit that country. But i hear it is wonderful.
The Arthurian legend is also a fine read. If you didn't saw it already i can recommend the movie "Excalibur" on that. Old but still gold in my book.



As Naughtyroad said a few posts before in a few days we get the new update. Until then hold the line. :)
few days?.........but i need to cum like now
 

whippetmaster

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I'll let you good folks hold the line cuz I'm holding something else - Denise's boobs! My only question is if the mc can hold a tit from Macy and Denise in each hand like "Ladies, I can't rate boobs on sight. It has to be seen AND felt. So to solve this issue, I'd like both of you "wards" to disrobe and offer the best tit you got!"

It could go like this:
*starts feeling them* - "I do say..."
*massages nipples* - "Those are some good points you both have."
*switches to the other boob* - "I've got to check for symmetry"
*rubs the nipples on both girls* - "And it seems you're both equally 'nipply'''
*gets attacked by both girls*
Good ending or bad ending???
 
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