VN Ren'Py Light of My Life [Ch.8 v0.8.2] [Naughty Road]

[naughtyroad]

Nah, the coming chapter's not the final chapter yet. It is 3rd act territory though, at least as far as the arc I originally envisioned is concerned.

 

[Miðgarðsormr]

Nah, the coming chapter's not the final chapter yet. It is 3rd act territory though, at least as far as the arc I originally envisioned is concerned.

Which means lots and lots of stuff will be developing over the course of future updates. I am glad was already worried for a second there xD

 

[Penultimateanon]

The throw weight of a trebuchet is potentially far greater than a catapult. IRL there is this crazy Scotsman whose built a trebuchet that can throw a VW bug (the original) something like 400 yards. Unlike a catapult, the limits on a trebuchet are the length of its arm, the weight on its lower end, and the distance that weight can drop. Given a big enough trebuchet using modern materials there is NO bear to large to be thrown, including the largest Grizzly, Alaskan Brown, or Polar bear on record.

Trebuchets ARE catapults.

 

[Miðgarðsormr]

Trebuchets ARE catapults.

Dear god what have i started by mentioning bears in here

 

[Penultimateanon]

Dear god what have i started by mentioning bears in here

Clearly, the thread was going to discuss siege engines at some point. I think everybody knew that's where the conversation was headed.

 

[Knight_of_the_lance]

Trebuchets ARE catapults.

you promped me to look it up because my initial reaction was No But I wanted to be sure before reacting and... you are rite as catapult is an umbrela term designating any siege enigein desingd to throw a projectile with out gunpowder. Catapults, the way I usualy hear the term everywhere else usualy mean spring or bow powerd seige eingein. ( here the spring is usualy made out of some kind of fiber or rope)

by the way siege engein were sometime used to throw deseised dead body maybe a strategy to get rid of those pesky bear.

 

[Penultimateanon]

you promped me to look it up because my initial reaction was No But I wanted to be sure before reacting and... you are rite as catapult is an umbrela term designating any siege enigein desingd to throw a projectile with out gunpowder. Catapults, the way I usualy hear the term everywhere else usualy mean spring or bow powerd seige eingein. ( here the spring is usualy made out of some kind of fiber or rope)

by the way siege engein were sometime used to throw deseised dead body maybe a strategy to get rid of those pesky bear.

Right. All trebuchets are catapults, but not all catapults are trebuchets.

 

[UncleFredo]

Trebuchets ARE catapults.

No actually they are not. Catapults compress springs or ropes or various substances that can absorb and release energy. Depressing the throwing arm puts torsional energy into the "spring" when the arm is released the spring moves the arm though its arc throwing the projectile. Traditionally catapults are smaller and far more mobile, even being mounted on wheeled bases that can be relatively quickly moved around the battlefield.

Trebuchets use a relatively very heavy counter weight that is lifted as the throwing arm is depressed. The pivot point of the arm has the weight on a very short arm compared to the length of the arm that will move through the throwing arc. So the weight drops swiftly and the speed of the throw is very very fast. Also usually the trebuchet has a sling that adds to the length of the throw accelerating the velocity of the projectile even more. Exactly as if a human used a sling to throw something.

Other than the fact that they both throw projectiles at the enemy, these are vastly different weapons.

 

[Miðgarðsormr]

I like how we all come together and discuss the ways of how to throw or launch bears far distances. Brings the whole family together and warms my heart.

On the other hand i start to feel bad about the people who have no idea what we are discussing here and how they seriously will start thinking that we discuss animal cruelty here. But bears are bears and bear are bears. Those are two very different things.

PS: If you are not in on this joke.....there is a 10% chance you are new in this thread. But a 90% chance you are a bear.

 

[UncleFredo]

On the other hand i start to feel bad about the people who have no idea what we are discussing here and how they seriously will start thinking that we discuss animal cruelty here. But bears are bears and bear are bears. Those are two very different things.

Well tossing an innocent bear a few hundred yards probably constitutes animal cruelty, unless you toss it into a lake full of fish. But you'd have to ask the bear...

 

[Knight_of_the_lance]

No actually they are not. Catapults compress springs or ropes or various substances that can absorb and release energy. Depressing the throwing arm puts torsional energy into the "spring" when the arm is released the spring moves the arm though its arc throwing the projectile. Traditionally catapults are smaller and far more mobile, even being mounted on wheeled bases that can be relatively quickly moved around the battlefield.

Trebuchets use a relatively very heavy counter weight that is lifted as the throwing arm is depressed. The pivot point of the arm has the weight on a very short arm compared to the length of the arm that will move through the throwing arc. So the weight drops swiftly and the speed of the throw is very very fast. Also usually the trebuchet has a sling that adds to the length of the throw accelerating the velocity of the projectile even more. Exactly as if a human used a sling to throw something.

Other than the fact that they both throw projectiles at the enemy, these are vastly different weapons.

Well I agree with you that is the POPULAR description for catapults, but not the actual historical or official one. There is a whole paragraph on the question in the wikipedia page on Trebuchet ( at least in the french wikipedia page (reason why I am not providing a link))

 

[Penultimateanon]

No actually they are not. Catapults compress springs or ropes or various substances that can absorb and release energy. Depressing the throwing arm puts torsional energy into the "spring" when the arm is released the spring moves the arm though its arc throwing the projectile. Traditionally catapults are smaller and far more mobile, even being mounted on wheeled bases that can be relatively quickly moved around the battlefield.

Trebuchets use a relatively very heavy counter weight that is lifted as the throwing arm is depressed. The pivot point of the arm has the weight on a very short arm compared to the length of the arm that will move through the throwing arc. So the weight drops swiftly and the speed of the throw is very very fast. Also usually the trebuchet has a sling that adds to the length of the throw accelerating the velocity of the projectile even more. Exactly as if a human used a sling to throw something.

Other than the fact that they both throw projectiles at the enemy, these are vastly different weapons.

I'm sorry, but your terminology is outdated.

 

[alikoyunn]

Any recent progress chart is released?

 

[fea876]

Any recent progress chart is released?

 

[praveen2430]

getting closer from this point each day seems longer n longer..

 

[Barry Nyle]

This game has some of the best character work of any game I've ever played.

 

[GaboCAP]

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I know I'm not the sharpest perv in this forum, but for my life I can't even start to decipher that thing. I really wish NR provided a simplest bar-like graphic for us the dumbs.

An this thread is gold. Bears, trebuchets, I can't hardly wait to know what the next discussion topic will be.

 

[Barry Nyle]

Me trying to interpret the progress chart:

 

[naughtyroad]

I know I'm not the sharpest perv in this forum, but for my life I can't even start to decipher that thing. I really wish NR provided a simplest bar-like graphic for us the dumbs. (...)

Wish I could. Writing and developing a VN is a messy process, at least it is for me.

This is how that graph started out, nice and clean and manageable, with the promise that all icons filled meant game finished.


But along the way, there's all this stuff that just comes up as part of the creative process: stuff gets rewritten, usually expanded in scope, extra scenes are plugged in, disaster strikes, etc. So this is what we end up with.



I could just have a number based on the fraction of filled in vs open faces on the bar, but that would hide all that chaos going on during development. This graph is meant to be messy and convey the unpredictability of the process.

Just try to intuit it, and it'll start to make more sense.

 

[GaboCAP]

Wish I could. Writing and developing a VN is a messy process, at least it is for me.

This is how that graph started out, nice and clean and manageable, with the promise that all icons filled meant game finished.
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But along the way, there's all this stuff that just comes up as part of the creative process: stuff gets rewritten, usually expanded in scope, extra scenes are plugged in, disaster strikes, etc. So this is what we end up with.

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I could just have a number based on the fraction of filled in vs open faces on the bar, but that would hide all that chaos going on during development. This graph is meant to be messy and convey the unpredictability of the process.

Just try to intuit it, and it'll start to make more sense.

Don't worry, I'll just wait patiently reading posts about bears and trebuchets and whistling quietly "Que sera, sera".