Java Lilith's Throne [v0.4.10.7 Hotfix] [Innoxia]

[congamensch]

While we're on the subject, is there any easy way to change the looks of a person without them being a succubus/incubus or slime? I can't seem to find anything like that.

 

[crash.7ds]

Not really, besides the "buggy" menu. If it hasn't changed much since last I played, you'd have to track down the necessary transformation items you want and do it the old fashion way. Succubus/Incubus/Slime is the only exceptions that have access to the transformation menu naturally.

 

[NoStepOnSnek]

While we're on the subject, is there any easy way to change the looks of a person without them being a succubus/incubus or slime? I can't seem to find anything like that.

Just enchant the appropriate food item for their current/target race. Major stuff can tally up a fair amount of essence, so you may want to get things like the water school perk (3 water spells for free fluid related enchants) or the transformer fetish. If you repeatedly need to apply things like bigger boobs or higher cum production, enchanting clothing with change-over-time effectts can be more economical since it's reusable.

 

[congamensch]

Just enchant the appropriate food item for their current/target race.

What food items might these be? The only consumables I know that can change a person's species are the harpy lollipops and slime canisters.

 

[NoStepOnSnek]

What food items might these be? The only consumables I know that can change a person's species are the harpy lollipops and slime canisters.

Well, that depends on the race of course since they all have their preferred snack but they're all cliché as heck and have the race icon in the background if you're unsure. Just go to the horse boy in the mall.

 

[congamensch]

Well, that depends on the race of course since they all have their preferred snack but they're all cliché as heck and have the race icon in the background if you're unsure. Just go to the horse boy in the mall.

Righto, I'll take a look the next chance I get. Thanks!

 

[quiboune]

Used to dealing with people that don't understand the core mechanics of LT, NoStepOnSnek? When I read his post I thought he meant "easier than through enchanting" too. Also, has Innoxia showed up in the server recently? Did she say anything about the next update?

 

[Golden_Darrow]

Inno apparently posted on the server around 10 minutes ago, at 2:51pm EST. It was about politics.

 

[NoStepOnSnek]

Used to dealing with people that don't understand the core mechanics of LT, NoStepOnSnek? When I read his post I thought he meant "easier than through enchanting" too. Also, has Innoxia showed up in the server recently? Did she say anything about the next update?

It's the safest assumption.

 

[SordidDreams]

You can literally make millions with 1 milk slave and a few "sleep until sunset/sunrise". Slavery is broken and feels pointless and boring. It's one of the many things Innoxia will eventually™ rework into a proper game mechanic.

Those obscene profits seem to just be a result of the numbers/math used to calculate them being placeholders.

I think the real problem is conceptual. Owning slaves in LT is one of those things that just can't help being broken in one way or another. It's passive income, it's someone else doing work and you reaping the benefits, that's the whole point of slavery as an institution. If you're just tweaking numbers, it's very difficult to find the sweet spot between "so unprofitable you have no reason to bother" and "so profitable you have no reason to do any other money-making activities", especially if the player can easily increase their profits by an order of magnitude by just getting more slaves. Sure, you could place some arbitrary restrictions on the number of slaves a player can own, but that feels, well, arbitrary. Or you could require the player to do some activity to keep the slave business going, but that would defeat the whole "get other people to do the work" point of it. You then risk running into the same issue Bethesda runs into in TES, where you still have to do everything yourself despite being the boss of an entire faction.

Ultimately I'm not sure it's really a problem that there is such a wildly unbalanced way to earn money. LT is a total power fantasy, so being able to acquite lots of money (= power) doesn't really make it any less fun. I also think it's inconspicuous enough that most people won't find it on their first playthrough, so it effectively becomes a nice shortcut to skip the boring early game on subsequent playthroughs.

 

[quiboune]

Interesting take. I feel like making it less broken by decreasing profits and making overworking/low obedience/low affection have a heavier impact would be enough balancing, but acquiring the license, acquiring new slaves and training the slaves should be harder.

 

[SordidDreams]

Sure, you could tweak the numbers. It's currently broken by several orders of magnitude, so there's plenty of room for nerfs. But I don't think Inno should stress over it too much. Perfect balance is not a worthwhile pursuit in a single-player game. In my experience, without a multiplayer component, trying to find and making use of exploits and overpowered stuff in general greatly extends the longevity of a game once its novelty has worn off. At least provided that such things are hidden well enough that you don't ruin your first playthrough with them.

 

[Shilou]

Hey jb281472 and everyone v0.3.9.8 has been released!

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SEP 05, 2020 10:18 PM
Version 0.3.9.8 (Preview) Release

Hello again,

Sorry that this version took me a little longer to get finished than I'd originally planned; implementing the new clothing 'sticker' system ended up pushing the work on the new character/quest back a little, and then the writing for that character again took me longer than I expected.

Anyway, this version is mainly focused on getting the aforementioned character and quest released, which was part of my original plan for the previous preview version. I don't want to spoil too much of that content, so I'll just say that it's related to the Enforcers, and by completing it, you'll gain the ability to legitimately purchase some Enforcer gear and weapons. The character(s)/quest was designed by DSG, and has been planned for inclusion for quite some time, which is why I was so keen on getting this done before v0.4. (The conditions for the quest starting are in the patch notes below.)

As well as the new character/quest and the clothing sticker system support, there are a lot of contributor bug fixes and updates to DSG's Enforcer clothing in this version. I've fixed some bugs myself, but there are still a lot of reported bugs from the last couple of versions which I haven't yet had time to fix.

After this release, I'm planning on fixing all of those bugs, implementing race modding support, and then adding some content to the Fields area. That will most likely include the next stage of the main quest, as well as some random encounters for the fields & river tiles.

I will do my very best to have v0.4 out by the 18th of September. I know that that's 10 days later than my previous target, and I'm sorry for having to push it back so far, but I fear that the race modding support may end up being quite complex to implement, and so I really can't see v0.4 being ready sooner than the 18th.

I'll do my very best to make v0.4 worth the wait, and thank you all once again for all of your support. I'm aiming to make the next progress post some time around the middle of this next week, so I'll see you all again then!

P.S. If you're a $10 supporter, and your name isn't yet in the in-game credits, please send me a message to let me know what name you'd like me to add you in as! ^^

Enjoy! \^o^/

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[RenZReh]

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Thank you dear, very kind.

 

[Tairnel]

Does anyone get this issue where the setting change to default everytime you load a save ?

 

[boloyolo]

Does anyone get this issue where the setting change to default everytime you load a save ?

Every time I load a save? No.

When I load a save after a version update, if I don't also copy over the properties.xml file in the data folder from the old version to the new? Yes.

 

[Waaifu]

Updated OP to v0.3.9.8.

Thank you @Shilou for sharing

 

[Deleted member 1321353]

I check this game's changelog from time to time to verify if there's some new Amber content,
I must admit that I play this game just to see my character being used as Amber's personal doormat.

 

[Anonymous_asian]

While we're on the subject, is there any easy way to change the looks of a person without them being a succubus/incubus or slime? I can't seem to find anything like that.

You simply have to craft potions. It's a bit difficult but once you get the proper ingredients and the necessary lust? It's been awhile but you build it for every orgasm (sometimes you won't get any or you get more there's variables) you can craft these potions for the effects you want and stack transformations on top.

 

[Anonymous_asian]

Those obscene profits seem to just be a result of the numbers/math used to calculate them being placeholders.

I think the real problem is conceptual. Owning slaves in LT is one of those things that just can't help being broken in one way or another. It's passive income, it's someone else doing work and you reaping the benefits, that's the whole point of slavery as an institution. If you're just tweaking numbers, it's very difficult to find the sweet spot between "so unprofitable you have no reason to bother" and "so profitable you have no reason to do any other money-making activities", especially if the player can easily increase their profits by an order of magnitude by just getting more slaves. Sure, you could place some arbitrary restrictions on the number of slaves a player can own, but that feels, well, arbitrary. Or you could require the player to do some activity to keep the slave business going, but that would defeat the whole "get other people to do the work" point of it. You then risk running into the same issue Bethesda runs into in TES, where you still have to do everything yourself despite being the boss of an entire faction.

Ultimately I'm not sure it's really a problem that there is such a wildly unbalanced way to earn money. LT is a total power fantasy, so being able to acquite lots of money (= power) doesn't really make it any less fun. I also think it's inconspicuous enough that most people won't find it on their first playthrough, so it effectively becomes a nice shortcut to skip the boring early game on subsequent playthroughs.

I mean so is prostitution. Until there is an exhaust mechanic what I do simply is take my 5K and immediately run over to the red lights. I then whore myself out until I have 26k which is as simple as hitting "quick sex" while I'm at it get level drain too. Once I have the money you head over and buy the most expensive primary and secondary weapons. Buy a few cheap clothing and enchant them with slavery. Head over to unlock slavery. Then head down under and beat the crap out of the more higher level enemies, enslave, sell them, and repeat. Ez money, ez lust for transformations, ez experience gain, ez way to skip out on most of the grinding, and you don't have to feel bad with them hating you and breaking them in!

Personally I think slavery is there just for the kink. I like messing around with Bree and treating them more akin to family and knocking them up all the time. Same with having friends with benefits, but they don't make you money or call you Mommy. If we are being honest the slavery could be it's own game on it's own if you made it more personal, training skills (like sex and breaking them in) and deadlines to sell slaves or services. So it's a pretty nice touch and makes the world feel more alive. All the while giving more content and power to the player.