Java Lilith's Throne [v0.4.10.7 Hotfix] [Innoxia]

[Tattletale21]

The entire game is a house of cards on fire.

Some very poor design decisions. Lore is meh and every bad decision is defend with "it's magic"!
The "core" fanbase are some of the most rabid and degenerate (in a bad way) people I've seen. The game is offering less and less.
GOOD content is actually being removed/cut - for example: companions( actually giving you a reason to invest in your slaves/lovers and something to spend money on)

Many of the game mechanics are NOT well tough off at all. Diary is a good idea, but demons utterly ruin any balance, since they can transform into super-producers for free. At least with others you need to invest into potions/enchantments.
Then there's also the whole "endless cum" bit where no one EVER runs out, which is kinda stupid. Even stupider is that it can't be tweaked.

And of course, the furries that insist that the special NPC must ignore furry preferences or it will break the game. How exactly? They can't and won't answer, but I'll answer for you - it wouldn't, because I save-edited out all the furries and everything works just fine.

thank you for telling us all what we've known for years - that this game is an ever-burning trash fire that just gets hotter with each new 'update'.

it is interesting that you save-edited the furry preferences...i'm assuming, because you weren't clear on what you did beyond 'furries say this, i say this but in vague words, ahaha'.

companions seems like a good idea, sure, but i'll be honest - i'm kinda glad it's gone, especially with the game as it is right now. maybe Inno, in the next twenty to thirty years, could add pre-selected companions the player can have instead of the randomly-generated slaves the player forces into companionship. something like fallout or skyrim's companion systems - find someone, do something for them 'hey come help me' 'okay sure' bam companion.

every bad decision being explained away with 'magic' is the core of most, if not all, fantasy settings, so you need to be more specific if you're gonna rail on someone else's shitty design choices when they tidy it up with 'it's magic'. also, give us some ammunition by telling us these incredibly specific design choices explained away with magic.

side note: the entire game is based on the shitty premise of 'it's magic' so you really need to be specific.

cum that never runs out - i'm assuming you mean where people dont seem to have a refractory period and continuously nut about 10 litres a go? well, joke's on you, because that can be changed in the settings - Content Options -> Bodies menu, under Cum Regeneration. simply turn it off.

the 'core' fanbase is something literally everyone knows about - they're a bunch of rabid white knights proselytising and preaching that Inno can do no wrong and she's simply in a creative slump - a creative slump she's been in for the past four plus years now, but hey, we all get those, right?

the game is, indeed, offering less and less; which is why the only people still actually supporting this game financially are those who white-knight Inno and simp, diehard furries obsessed with the idea of adding their fursona to a fantasy setting, or people who desperately hope Inno pulls their shit together and actually does something. the Sunk Cost Fallacy really does hurt quite a lot of these people, but hey.

thank you for coming to my TEDTalk

 

[derp752]

Now that pig-morphs are a thing, I kinda wish the flavor text would acknowledge the fact that their orgasms last an average of 30 minutes (up to 90), which could easily fill to the brim (and overflow) whatever hole it's plugging. I read an hentai manga a while back with pig monsters and not going to lie... the detail they went into it was kind of impressive.

Do you remember what manga that was?

 

[Dr.Feelgood]

Well, it seems like Inno has made a post in regards to the next update. The filler content is supposedly filled in and a few other inclusions have been scheduled for a release on Friday.

Anyone else thinking we're going to be getting a delay excuse on Saturday?

 

[Carl0sDanger]

does anybody know if theirs a way to remove the cap on max mana and health?

I don't, but I've never had any problems with those running out once past the first couple levels.

What are you doing where you're getting hit that much and using that much magic?

 

[PochitaTheChainsaw]

I don't, but I've never had any problems with those running out once past the first couple levels.

What are you doing where you're getting hit that much and using that much magic?

im just curious about it.

 

[Carl0sDanger]

And of course, the furries that insist that the special NPC must ignore furry preferences or it will break the game. How exactly? They can't and won't answer, but I'll answer for you - it wouldn't, because I save-edited out all the furries and everything works just fine.

They aren't talking about mechanically breaking the game. What you are suggesting is certainly possible to do.

It's a furry game with a furry story. People who aren't really into furry stuff have to look past the furry stuff in order to play; it's that simple.

 

[Carl0sDanger]

im just curious about it.

Have you tried editing your save file directly? Just use something like Notepad to open it and search for your MC's name.

 

[BeholdTheWizzard]

They aren't talking about mechanically breaking the game. What you are suggesting is certainly possible to do.

It's a furry game with a furry story. People who aren't really into furry stuff have to look past the furry stuff in order to play; it's that simple.

Except there's nothing even in lore that REQUIRES a specific NPC to be a furry. You could replace any of the full-furry NPCs with kemnomimi and it wouldn't break a darn thing and would still make perfect sense.
It's just furries trying to force furry and making a mockery of choice.

 

[Marlin Brandy]

Except there's nothing even in lore that REQUIRES a specific NPC to be a furry. You could replace any of the full-furry NPCs with kemnomimi and it wouldn't break a darn thing and would still make perfect sense.
It's just furries trying to force furry and making a mockery of choice.

but isn't that already possible to customize through the furry slider system in the menus? I mean you could also always just add custom portraits to replace unique NPC portraits or just ignore them altogether and imagine you're fucking a cat-girl

 

[IvoryOwl]

Do you remember what manga that was?

It's a good thing I bookmarked that manga. Here ya go.

You must be registered to see the links

 

[IvoryOwl]

Except there's nothing even in lore that REQUIRES a specific NPC to be a furry. You could replace any of the full-furry NPCs with kemnomimi and it wouldn't break a darn thing and would still make perfect sense.

Congratulations, Inno is planning to accommodate your desires further down the road.

It's just furries trying to force furry and making a mockery of choice.

What the heck did you expect from a developer that is either a furry or a pro-furry? She made those essential NPCs furries on purpose, it wasn't a community request, SHE DID IT HERSELF. It has been so since the BEGINNING. Why do you people have such a hard time accepting a game might not be for you? Like, gee, how dare people with different tastes get toys too, am I right? The audacity. /s People like you are the reason why I sometimes think being nice and inclusive just isn't worth it. You give some people an hand and they demand the whole arm.

Fortunately for you, catering to a lot people has been her plan since the beginning, but if history is worth anything here, don't count your chickens before they hatch. With the way the coding is going it would have been a lot easier (and still is!) to just say "frick you" and remove half of the options to make the game more manageable down the line. It's what happened with the companions and could very well happen again.

I'll say it again, this game caters first and foremost to furries. Kemonomimi are a type of furry too, just less so. And do note she specifically wrote "reduced-furry versions", meaning they will still be furry to a degree.

 

[BeholdTheWizzard]

but isn't that already possible to customize through the furry slider system in the menus? I mean you could also always just add custom portraits to replace unique NPC portraits or just ignore them altogether and imagine you're fucking a cat-girl

Of course. I could also imagine I'm playing a different game.
The point stands - there was nothing, neither from a mechanical or a lore point, that prevented them from making special NPC's also respect the furry slider. They just didn't want to do it.

 

[tehlemon]

Of course. I could also imagine I'm playing a different game.
The point stands - there was nothing, neither from a mechanical or a lore point, that prevented them from making special NPC's also respect the furry slider. They just didn't want to do it.

Sounds like you already know the answer to your complaint

 

[BeholdTheWizzard]

Like, gee, how dare people with different tastes get toys too, am I right? The audacity. /s People like you are the reason why I sometimes think being nice and inclusive just isn't worth it. You give some people an hand and they demand the whole arm.

Right back a ya.

Fortunately for you, catering to a lot people has been her plan since the beginning, but if history is worth anything here, don't count your chickens before they hatch. With the way the coding is going it would have been a lot easier (and still is!) to just say "frick you" and remove half of the options to make the game more manageable down the line. It's what happened with the companions and could very well happen again.

Shitty coding and bad organization is not on me.

I'll say it again, this game caters first and foremost to furries. Kemonomimi are a type of furry too, just less so.

I don't consider them the same thing, and neither does 99% of people.

 

[OffPathGames]

I don't consider them the same thing, and neither does 99% of people.

Yeah - cat girl and "cat girl" are definitely different. Girl wearing a pair of cat ears around doesn't make her a furry.

 

[IvoryOwl]

Right back a ya.

Dude, non-furry games are the majority and you're complaining like you're a thirsty man in the desert and there is no water. You don't get to complain when your tastes are in the majority. Period.

Here's an example, go to the Latest Updates section of this website.
Filter by "Furry" - you'll get 17 pages of games.
Now use the filter to exclude all games with the "Furry" tag - there's 337 pages.

You can always go and play something else that caters to your tastes, there's no shortage of 'em. Stop complaining about "dem furries!" on threads about furries. I've seen moderators in other threads write pre-warnings against this sort of pettiness, similar to those who complain about the gay content in gay games. It never ends well and only servers to derail the thread.

The game (and developer) are already going out of their way to accommodate a wide variety of people and their kinks, proof posted above, you don't need to push your luck and act like you're entitled to more, least of all insult the furry community while at it (which is the primary crowd this game caters to). At least ask for it in better terms...

 

[BeholdTheWizzard]

This isn't pettines, buddy.

It's about half-assin an option. Also, a game having furries doesn't make it a furry exclusive game. I does have humans, demons, angels and kemnomimi featuring prominently.
If it was a furry-only game, I wouldn't have even looked at it.

 

[anubis1970]

Guys, agree to disagree and move on.

 

[Mistik]

Except there's nothing even in lore that REQUIRES a specific NPC to be a furry. You could replace any of the full-furry NPCs with kemnomimi and it wouldn't break a darn thing and would still make perfect sense.
It's just furries trying to force furry and making a mockery of choice.

Download the "Move npc" mod or something like that. Stand in the corridor in the mansion. Go to the phone book, select the npc, hover over the status effect. Close the phone book window. Use the transformation potion on the npc.
There are 2 or 3 mods that perform the same function, but one of them makes a slave that can be canceled.

 

[Tempor]

i come every so often to check on this dumpster fire of a game and it seems like its always the same. but what really slaps me on the knee is the never ending additions of useless races and subraces that dont add anything different gameplay wise. everyone dissing on the developer dont realize shes quite smart milking paypigs for what they are worth
ive said it before its a shame cause this game could have offered some cool sandbox gameplay and with user mods its replay value would be great