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Sarkath

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I've only been able to skim some of Inno's code but iirc isn't it a big part of the issue that the game loads and updates every char every turn, as opposed to say only when the player enters their tile?
Yep. The endTurn() function used to do way too much every time the player would move.

AceXP did put in some fixes to help mitigate that, so it's definitely better than it used to be. Still, with the number of people reporting performance issues I'm sure there's still plenty of work left to do.
 

Dr.Feelgood

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Hey! 4.6 is out!

So we got a couple of filler NPCs that likely won't do anything beyond sell items that can be found anywhere else, the continuation of bad end, and... the ability to import NPCs to the slave auction AND to the nightclub now.

And nothing else of particular value beside some much needed, if minor, reduction of unneeded status checks made with every cycle. Does this about cover everything? I really hope I am wrong about the Slaver's Alley thing, not that I am particular hopeful either.
 

Kruxis

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I've been wondering. Is there an easy way to remove the 3-day limit from the Murk Milker training and, for example, make the 3rd day loop ir something like that?
 

urgeth

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java -jar LilithsThrone_0_3_2_2.jar
Error: Could not find or load main class com.lilithsthrone.main.Main
Caused by: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: javafx/application/Application

Getting this on jar executable.
Assuming you're on a Debian system or similar, this is how to solve it:

First make sure the "openjfx" package is installed (e.g. via sudo apt install openjfx).
Then run the following command (all in one line):
java --module-path /usr/share/openjfx/lib --add-modules=javafx.controls,javafx.fxml,javafx.web -jar LilithsThrone_0_4_6.jar

(The last argument is the name of the JAR file in the download; you may have to change the version number to match what you have.)
 

NajaNaga

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the ability to import NPCs to the slave auction AND to the nightclub now.
If nightclub importing preserves the background perk, that's at least a bit useful. Even if the perks mostly only matter for roleplaying or people who re-enable companions, or being able to do a no-slave run but still customize your household (I'm assuming you can get nightclub chars to move in with you but I could be remembering it completely wrong, I haven't touched it in forever).

I like getting the generic slave perk that gives more +phys instead of useless crap like mugger, but I can see where alternatives would come in handy.
 

jfmherokiller

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Assuming you're on a Debian system or similar, this is how to solve it:

First make sure the "openjfx" package is installed (e.g. via sudo apt install openjfx).
Then run the following command (all in one line):
java --module-path /usr/share/openjfx/lib --add-modules=javafx.controls,javafx.fxml,javafx.web -jar LilithsThrone_0_4_6.jar

(The last argument is the name of the JAR file in the download; you may have to change the version number to match what you have.)
srsly thank you for this as far as i can tell this not talked about on the openjfx website itself.
 
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BaloneyAmone

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If nightclub importing preserves the background perk, that's at least a bit useful. Even if the perks mostly only matter for roleplaying or people who re-enable companions, or being able to do a no-slave run but still customize your household (I'm assuming you can get nightclub chars to move in with you but I could be remembering it completely wrong, I haven't touched it in forever).

I like getting the generic slave perk that gives more +phys instead of useless crap like mugger, but I can see where alternatives would come in handy.
You never needed the nightclub for this; you could just go to City Hall and head up to the Waiting Room to import an NPC to move in directly. My best guess for nightclub imports is for for being able to sex an OC repeatedly without necessarily having them move in.
 

NajaNaga

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You never needed the nightclub for this; you could just go to City Hall and head up to the Waiting Room to import an NPC to move in directly.
Oh neat. Guess this shows how often I've looked at City Hall too, I think I peeked in once years ago and saw a function to change your name and that's all I ever remembered about it.
 

CaptainBipto

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Murk Milker training?
Murk is a character that you can encounter during the rat den quest (starts with Axel in the gambling den) and he has a few slaves that are being used as milkers and involuntary prostitutes.
If you challenge Murk, Vengar, or just challenge all the rats in the den AND lose, you get turned over to Murk to be trained as one of his milk slaves. If you don't escape after 3 days or so, it becomes a game over, as your character will have become an obedient and mind broken slave being milked and fucked forever.
 

Daddums

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Not entirely sure why you can't use the hypno-watch on NPCs like Aurokaris. They'll say they love you, but won't fuck you. Got the solution right there, but nah, can't use it. The dialogue is fairly neutral too and nothing would need to change much. Seems arbitrary.
 

kht

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Not entirely sure why you can't use the hypno-watch on NPCs like Aurokaris. They'll say they love you, but won't fuck you. Got the solution right there, but nah, can't use it. The dialogue is fairly neutral too and nothing would need to change much. Seems arbitrary.
Yeah, unique npc restrictions are sometimes dumb.

You could try changing her orientation in the debug parser, using this line:

Code:
[#aurokaris.setSexualOrientation(lilaya.getSexualOrientation())]
That should change her orientation from gynephilic to ambiphilic.

If her interactions are hardcodded this won't really do anything, but if they are properly checking for orientation, it might let you fuck her. Haven't really tested it with that character in particular, but I know this works for Scarlett.
 
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Yeah, unique npc restrictions are sometimes dumb.

If her interactions are hardcodded this won't really do anything...
This, I truly hate this. In a way, it literally goes against how the game portrays itself, game mechanic wise. Cause the male/female ratio with these unique characters are imbalanced since most of the unique NPC's are female. Even if one goes about changing their gender through save editing, it won't matter since the scenes with them are hard coded. Don't even get me started on the sex scenes with certain unique NPC's, cause those shouldn't even be hard coded either. And it's irritating to the point that I be reluctant to progress through plot points since they most parts are for submissive players.
 

Carl0sDanger

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... I be reluctant to progress through plot points since they most parts are for submissive players.
Not really sure what you mean here.

I mean, the Dominion Express and Amber's Bitch content are pretty clearly submissive, but it's totally possible to do a dominant playthrough of the main story (such as it is). Is there anything in particular you're having trouble with?

I would actually like to see dominant possibilities added to those two side quests (though it's obviously way less of a priority than main quest progress). I wouldn't mind being able to go into business with Natalya (might be a good way to spend money) or to sell Zaranix on the idea of my MC putting his household staff in their respective places.

Going forward, Inno really should be considering this issue though. Niche content like "get turned into a transgender centaur who loves to service horse-cock" is better left for Subscribestar polls after the main quest is finished. The main quest should have several different ways to approach it. I want a Lex Luthor-inspired MC to have access to as much content as a Druuna-inspired one.

At any rate, it's all very well to speculate about what this game could be and the incredibly varied approaches it could cater to, but what the game needs ATM is for Inno to work on it.
 
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Not really sure what you mean here.

I mean, the Dominion Express and Amber's Bitch content are pretty clearly submissive...
This is what I meant, sorry. I mean that most of the recent side content had been submissive focus, and with their being more unique female NPC's than unique Male NPC's I end up tuning out most stuff in game dealing with them, since I've played this a billion times. I mostly just focus on the less important NPC enemies that roam the map (and a few male NPC's I'm actually allowed to be dom with) as a result.

Going forward, Inno really should be considering this issue though. Niche content like "get turned into a transgender centaur who loves to service horse-cock" is better left for Subscribestar polls after the main quest is finished. The main quest should have several different ways to approach it.
Mainly this, the main plot should have been done by now, but we all know the reasons why. Which is why I've found myself checking back to listen to the conversations on here. And maybe see if someone is willing to make a game that pick up certain elements from this that peek my interest enough to follow them.
 
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