The funny part about that is that I got the previous versions running just fine on Java 18 without those issues cropping up (getting it running on newer Java versions is honestly pretty easy). It really makes me wonder what the hell happened that caused things to get so busted.
If i had to guess Inno probably tried to use newer java api stuff like what is seen in Jetbrains. and "optimized" without actually checking if it will break anything first.
If its a .exe it should work "relatively" well.
I'm trying to open it now but it's not opening and on the error.log it says
Fresh install from the .exe in the OP Mega Link. Win11 is not the problem.
it's still doing the same thing and still not opening even though i downloaded it right now to try it
Yeah, that could very well be. The game doesn't have any sort of unit tests in place (and given the complexity of some of the class interactions, it really should have something). Testing seems to generally consist of playing the game for a while and observing.
I mean, on one hand, its pretty hard to unit test games, since something that seems legit from the point of unit test could be wrong from the point of a game. "JUST WRITE UR TEST CORRRRECTLY!!!!!!" Than it wont be a unit tests, since exact testing for a 'correctness' from the point of a game require more information than x = "dummy data" and i = 34.
I agree that unit tests wouldn't work for most games (imagine writing extensive unit tests for Doom Eternal
), but LT is so data-driven and deterministic that I don't think it would be out of the question. Also, it would make more sense to test for data integrity than anything mechanical, since the latter is where most of the game's nondeterminism comes into play.A few more years? Man, that's optimistic lol
For the last few years the only big content patches have been like, one in February with all work being stopped from November February, one in late summer, and then one half assed patch in the fall.Hello every one, sorry for stupid question (abit brain dead of mine), so for now for PC ver. only v0.4.6.3, and 0.4.6.7 for PC will be somewhere near end of this year?
That's going to be a big problem moving forward. Eventually Microsoft and Oracle are going to kill the old versions as they become more and more problematic. And both companies have demonstrated that they're willing and able to do so. I wouldn't be surprised if eventually this version is just nuked entirely in Win11, if not Win10 as well.
Yeah, the jar version just doesn't work. And the exe version barely works on my Win11 gaming rig. The game is unstable as hell, but that might just be the current state of things based on skimming this thread.
Data integrity checks can be bypassed, most of a times, by spamming immutable wrappers for pretty much everything 'constant' that passed into a function. It reduce performance, but than again, its java....and its a turn based game.I agree that unit tests wouldn't work for most games (imagine writing extensive unit tests for Doom Eternal
I think the hardest part in this case would be determining exactly what should be tested. A good place to start, IMO, would be automating common actions (switching between areas, moving in and out of combat, creating a new NPC, making babies, etc.) and verifying data integrity after each process. Basically, stuff like ensuring that when you add an NPC the total count doesn't go down or something stupid like that.
Even something more mundane like ensuring that saving the game actually preserves the game's state would be a good thing to include (that is: setting up a control state, saving and loading it, and comparing the loaded data against the control).
If windows 11 is at least barely same as windows 10
This game requires an additional java related runtime. not just the baseline java.
Works fine for me with a 'bare' java. Unless visual studio on installation also install some obligatory java libs on the background, since I dont have anything java related on my pc.
The exe version is the jar with a java wrapper. In the past it worked 'better' than the jar because it was the matching version of java to what the jar was compiled with by Inno. If the jar is badly screwed up the exe may not work either.
Yeah that's fair, failing to meet deadlines while sadly being the status quo for these things is a valid complaint. Even if it is like one in ten posts out of like +700 pages of posts. Meanwhile I've seen people here complain about every little thing he's done.
Context is important, over 95% of games on this platform are in HTML, or Python, or just RPGM or something like that. (lo/no code for RPGM's cases generally)
