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Polarthief

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It might make no sense to you, but the sunk cost fallacy is a very common phenomenon, not just in video games.
Oh of course, I was just saying in this instance not "in general, it makes no sense to me.

It hasn't been worth it to subscribe to her for years, but if somebody wants to toss her 5 bucks a month or so, it doesn't hurt me, so I don't care.
Don't get me wrong, I don't either; she's just one lucky bitch who gets to do nothing and profit greatly from it.
 

SpikyHair

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I would feel bad to scam people for their money personally, so no, I will never make a pile of money doing literally nothing, and I'm okay with that.
FTR I'm well aware of all that, it's just shitty to do.
Oh, I fully agree with you on both. Just pointing out it's "tolerated" all too damn frequently.

Then again, probably why I'm squarely in the "Poor Dev" camp as well, while associates roll in the big bucks (especially from fleecing the mobile market), heh.
it doesn't hurt me, so I don't care.
The thing is, it absolutely does hurt you.

Because it sets a trend for the industry as a whole (and not just the "adult" portion of it), inundates younger generations with tolerance toward such practices, and in general is how you end up with games being sold piecemeal (shoutout to Paradox Interactive for selling even graphics and music assets separately to acclaim of dumbfuck shills).

"Damned gamers, they ruined gaming."
 

Polarthief

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it doesn't hurt me, so I don't care.
The thing is, it absolutely does hurt you.

Because it sets a trend for the industry as a whole (and not just the "adult" portion of it), inundates younger generations with tolerance toward such practices, and in general is how you end up with games being sold piecemeal (shoutout to Paradox Interactive for selling even graphics and music assets separately to acclaim of dumbfuck shills).

"Damned gamers, they ruined gaming."
"Microtransactions don't hurt me since they're just cosmetic, so I don't care."
"Loot Boxes don't hurt me since they're just cosmetic, so I don't care."
"I just avoid Gacha games, so I don't care."

Like it just continues to progress. AAA industry will always keep pushing that line to see what they're allowed get away with. You absolutely should care because I mean, just look at the state of the industry right now: Day 1 battlepasses, microtransactions, loot boxes/gachas (even for non-cosmetics), Buy2Skip, etc. The industry's a hot boiling mess of garbage.
 

anubis1970

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sadly links are dead and seems abandoned
It's still being worked on, just that the older versions aren't on the server at the moment. If you replace 'lilith' with 'beta' you can find the latest beta version, just be warned that you may run into multiple bugs.
 
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"Microtransactions don't hurt me since they're just cosmetic, so I don't care."
"Loot Boxes don't hurt me since they're just cosmetic, so I don't care."
"I just avoid Gacha games, so I don't care."

Like it just continues to progress. AAA industry will always keep pushing that line to see what they're allowed get away with. You absolutely should care because I mean, just look at the state of the industry right now: Day 1 battlepasses, microtransactions, loot boxes/gachas (even for non-cosmetics), Buy2Skip, etc. The industry's a hot boiling mess of garbage.
I don't care, not because it doesn't effect me, but because I alone can do nothing to change it and have no choice but to just sit back and watch as people I know gush over their waifu gacha games they toss entire paychecks at.
 

Bootyman

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I'm sure that Innoxia is genuinely disappointed with not being able to meet her deadlines but she needs to find someone else to work with so that there's less stress on her. Girl has a serious martyr complex, as someone with anxiety problems I beat myself up over not being able to finish something but it happens every fucking time.

In the words of Hugo Weaving from Priscilla, Get off the cross, we need the wood.
 

CaptainBipto

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I decided to just completely delete her scenes and start again from scratch, and while I've got a much more fun idea for how to handle this character, it's requiring a lot more content to be added in support of it. So, basically, I'm adding a large amount of new content which this mini-boss character (who's still a succubus, but not just a generic 'bad guy') is going to be a supporting part of.
Well, if you put on the appropriate pair of Rose Colored Glasses ...
Cosplay as a White Knight ...
Click your heels together, 3 times ...

Then read Inno's statement again ...

The next update Inno puts out should have some substantial content added to it. That does depend upon Inno's definition of 'a large amount'.

My expectations of what Inno delivers is pretty low, so I don't really expect much or expect anything any time 'soon'.
But .............. It does sound like we are going to, at least, get another spoonful for Main Story content.
 

FireSauner0

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I'm sure that Innoxia is genuinely disappointed with not being able to meet her deadlines but she needs to find someone else to work with so that there's less stress on her. Girl has a serious martyr complex, as someone with anxiety problems I beat myself up over not being able to finish something but it happens every fucking time.

In the words of Hugo Weaving from Priscilla, Get off the cross, we need the wood.
I'm not disagreeing or anything, just adding:

The thing is, from the customer's perspective, it shouldn't matter if she is genuinely disappointed in herself or not.

Like, it's been 4+ years of this. The fact that she hasn't done anything to to rectify it indicates that she is perfectly content with being genuinely disappointed in herself and as unprofessional as possible.

Either that, or she's not actually that disappointed. (I can't really judge that, because I usually try to fix problems as soon possible, so my perspective is inherently different)

But the result is the same. Development is at 10% of its normal speed.
 
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I don't care, not because it doesn't effect me, but because I alone can do nothing to change it and have no choice but to just sit back and watch as people I know gush over their waifu gacha games they toss entire paychecks at.
That's a very sad way to look at the world. If enough people make a fuss then things can change. I remember there being a story about that that went vaguely "people don't stand up even if everyone wants to because no one else knows the others want to stand up" or something like that. If you make yourself heard and encourage others to care then more and more will join the cause. If everyone thought like you then there will be zero resistance. I think it's moral to atleast try and say something about something you feel strongly about rather than believe that you don't have power.
 
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That's a very sad way to look at the world. If enough people make a fuss then things can change. I remember there being a story about that that went vaguely "people don't stand up even if everyone wants to because no one else knows the others want to stand up" or something like that. If you make yourself heard and encourage others to care then more and more will join the cause. If everyone thought like you then there will be zero resistance. I think it's moral to atleast try and say something about something you feel strongly about rather than believe that you don't have power.
There is only so long you can speak out and be ignored before you give up, because at that point you realize that the majority of people don't want it to change. They're happy with how things are, and to change things would take away from their current happiness.
 
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aspar4gus

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In my full time job, if i miss a deadline by 3+ consecutive times and in a consistent manner throughout the span of several years, it'll be a miracle if i don't lose the job by the end of the first year and got blacklisted by other similar companies and headhunters.

Patron leechers Porn game maker is indeed a dream job that allow someone to be recognised as a human and has life outside the game, so much life, too much life
 
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