sasha2

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Three days until the fabled update that's been put off for six months guys!!!!
I can't wait to see one new quest and maybe a new area if Innoxia feels so inclined to grace us with more content
The latest blogpost clearly says that the main (=biggest) new feature is going to be adding a shop with doll slaves and the ability to tell the doll to be immobile during sex.
That's right. The big new feature that took half a year to implement is NPCs doing nothing.
 

JXSXNBLXCK

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While I know that this question may be stupid or has been asked already, please humor me. Why hasn't Inno asked for help in completing the game, or at least a sizeable chunk of it? I mean, I get it Life happens: members of your family die, mentally you're falling apart, you lose your job, you wake up one morning and can't even recognize the person staring back at you in the mirror, etc. But imho when you take on a project that is seemingly as big as this one, you're going to need a support team; you're going to need help, and having discord mods tell you what you want to hear ain't gonna cut it.
 

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While I know that this question may be stupid or has been asked already, please humor me. Why hasn't Inno asked for help in completing the game, or at least a sizeable chunk of it? I mean, I get it Life happens: members of your family die, mentally you're falling apart, you lose your job, you wake up one morning and can't even recognize the person staring back at you in the mirror, etc. But imho when you take on a project that is seemingly as big as this one, you're going to need a support team; you're going to need help, and having discord mods tell you what you want to hear ain't gonna cut it.
If I remember correctly, Inno was very adamant of getting a second developer and probably less so to pass the torch to someone else because they wanted to be fully responsible for the game.
 
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While I know that this question may be stupid or has been asked already, please humor me. Why hasn't Inno asked for help in completing the game, or at least a sizeable chunk of it? I mean, I get it Life happens: members of your family die, mentally you're falling apart, you lose your job, you wake up one morning and can't even recognize the person staring back at you in the mirror, etc. But imho when you take on a project that is seemingly as big as this one, you're going to need a support team; you're going to need help, and having discord mods tell you what you want to hear ain't gonna cut it.
Partly that Inno is a procrastinator and being expected to commit daily or weekly to a shared repository would reveal how often nothing is done for deadlines and then the cramtime before the real true absolute final deadline.

Partly that Inno is a control freak and people don't want to work under or around her restrictions

Partly that Inno is up her own ass and thinks the helpers are leeches for expecting to get paid for the time they were on the clock with no work assigned or for work that doesn't work very well because they were forced to work around the spaghetti.

A big part that with enough waiting the contributors will do all that work for free.
 
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The latest blogpost clearly says that the main (=biggest) new feature is going to be adding a shop with doll slaves and the ability to tell the doll to be immobile during sex.
That's right. The big new feature that took half a year to implement is NPCs doing nothing.

this game feels like ADHD let loose but in the more ADD way. i also have the tisms but come now i want to see a design doc. i dont even write fanfics with out one..... not to say i follow them but they help with the genral idea
 
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from personal expirence being in the gay furry sphere, the reason we seem to get a lot of the big text games is because a lot of us are in STEM or STEM related fields so we want our games to be more then just a simple wank novel.
I think that the people making games that specific, are looking to make that game, specifically; whereas someone trying to make a porn game can just pull from a big bag of archetypes.

'Some people like work-types, let's make a buisness woman'
'Some people like stormy redheads, let's make a seductress'
'Some people like motherly figures, let's make a stepmom'

From there it's really just going down the checklist of positions and camera angles

Its a lot more comfortable for someone to produce a game based on generalizations, rather than your own sexual makeup. It's also a lot more profitable, a large majority of the population are straight, and so making a basic-ass 3dcg straight vanilla game is going to reach a lot more people. Its also a lot more simple, workflow-wise

Download blender and like 3 pre-made assets, dress them up, render, throw that into visual novel maker and you pretty much have half of a patreon game. I would be hard-pressed to think of a workflow so simple for a game like bdcc or flexible survival. you just can't write that much on archetypes alone.

straight games lend themselves more towards flat out VNs or just CG collectors, while gay games lend themselves to incredibly in depth minute detail text based games.

Frankly, the gays have the better of the two choices in that regard lol
again, I think that why they're gay, mostly. 93% of men and 87% of women are straight, according to wikipedia. If your making a porn game to make money, making it gay would be absolutely gimping your own project.
 

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Ah yes, adding something to the game that is ALREADY IN THE FUCKING GAME.
Bravo Innoxia. Truly, this update was worth all the time taken for it. Not a single moment of waiting was wasted.
I am going to go out on a very thin limb and say what that really is, is a series of 'dead fish' descriptions. Which is... very niche. I am more perturbed by yet another god-damn DOG MORPH.
 

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One main point of disagreement: Ever heard of tv tropes? It has a massive catalogue of archetypes for media of all sorts, including video games. After browsing for a bit, you'll notice that every entity ever is a collection of archetypes mashed together. Meraxis, arguably one of the more fleshed out characters in LT (not saying much), is a who serves as a and a . Pretty sure you do something simular yet more setting appropriate in BDCC to make some NPC's.

Also keep in mind that consumers of some niches will pay top dollar to see more, negating the potential losses from cutting out the common masses. Seriously, the number of mysteriously wealthy people throwing tips at furry and loli artists...
 

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One main point of disagreement: Ever heard of tv tropes? It has a massive catalogue of archetypes for media of all sorts, including video games. After browsing for a bit, you'll notice that every entity ever is a collection of archetypes mashed together. Meraxis, arguably one of the more fleshed out characters in LT (not saying much), is a who serves as a and a . Pretty sure you do something simular yet more setting appropriate in BDCC to make some NPC's.

Also keep in mind that consumers of some niches will pay top dollar to see more, negating the potential losses from cutting out the common masses. Seriously, the number of mysteriously wealthy people throwing tips at furry and loli artists...
I am disappointed in you. You missed , the implementation of which I get a real kick out of because I always take the Chuuni-type perk in the skill tree for some truly silly exchanges.

Also often surprised by the intense fervor of some furry/loli fetishists, the latter category I've realized that I learned to tolerate ignore as it was intensely prevalent in the 90's/early 2000's anime (back when I would watch any anime I could find and I couldn't be as selective). I appreciate when sandbox games give options for disabling or avoiding such squicky content.
 
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I am disappointed in you. You missed , the implementation of which I get a real kick out of because I always take the Chuuni perk in the skill tree for some truly silly exchanges.
I was going to make a list, but then stopped because I knew there'd be a bunch of "what about this trope?" comments like this one.

Edit: Bruv even the eye-patch thing is part of the trope even though that part is slightly downplayed since it does reduce her power a bit.
 
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While I know that this question may be stupid or has been asked already, please humor me. Why hasn't Inno asked for help in completing the game, or at least a sizeable chunk of it? I mean, I get it Life happens: members of your family die, mentally you're falling apart, you lose your job, you wake up one morning and can't even recognize the person staring back at you in the mirror, etc. But imho when you take on a project that is seemingly as big as this one, you're going to need a support team; you're going to need help, and having discord mods tell you what you want to hear ain't gonna cut it.
I will say that the majority of items noted in the changelogs for the past few years have actually come from other developers (their contributors are acknowledged in the change notes and also observable in the Github). They're typically minor characters, minor mechanics, or things like new items rather than significant advancements on core quests/characters/mechanics, though. I could speculate that Innoxia is protective of the core elements but I don't have any knowledge/evidence to confirm the actual situation.
 

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this game feels like ADHD let loose but in the more ADD way. i also have the tisms but come now i want to see a design doc. i dont even write fanfics with out one..... not to say i follow them but they help with the genral idea
lmao

It was like, five or six years ago at this point where I said that it seems like Inno might just have untreated ADHD. A lot of what's gone on with this game's development and design *screams* untreated ADHD.
 

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again, I think that why they're gay, mostly. 93% of men and 87% of women are straight, according to wikipedia. If your making a porn game to make money, making it gay would be absolutely gimping your own project.
I don't know about the accuracy of those values as sourced from Wikipedia but I guess they seem plausible compared to the number of openly homosexual people I meet. I think that there's going to be bias from a non-uniform distribution of persons with most niche interests/fetishes (also applies to virtually any minority interest group) where there will be places of much greater density such as F95Zone. F95Zone is, as much as anywhere else on the internet, an echo chamber (somebody mentioned echo chambers earlier in the thread and I felt like while it is accurate it is also sort of a given; echo chambers are a nigh-ubiquitous facet of the internet).

I have to constantly remind myself that some of the discourse here is dominated by a very extraordinarily high concentration of niche interests that is not representative of the general population. Otherwise I'd come away from some of these threads convinced that billions of people are foaming at the mouth for the opportunity to e.g. inbreed (not going to try to list other fetishes but this one is so incredibly prevalent here that it's a safe example). As long as games provide options to avoid/disable such content while still being engaging I try to overlook it.
 

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Now we are here mostly to ridicule her behaviors and take bets on when she'll post another "I'm sorry but I've been down lately so can't work at all I will push a post out next year thanks for spoon-feeding me money as usual bye".
Let's not forget that it's not just her that deserves ridicule, but also her cult following. I also like to occasionally calculate how much she is making per year(as Ive posted in this thread several times) because its amusing in a sort of depressing way that she makes more than the average person in her country.
 

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coming back to the whole Chuuni thing, its completely hilarious and reminds me of the silly mode in stuff like CoCX. But I will admit it can get old fast and in terms of the world at large it also seems to function as a debuff on most of my playthroughs.
 

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New blogpost, titled: "Update on Monday", just goes over the doll race and testing/implementation of sleep sex mechanics then "bug fixing" over the weekend.
Let's see if she'll go through with the promise
 
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Meraxis, arguably one of the more fleshed out characters in LT (not saying much), is a who serves as a and a . Pretty sure you do something simular yet more setting appropriate in BDCC to make some NPC's.
That is a really good point, actually.

I still find that more broad games tend to write from one specific archetype, like they're filling holes in a pre-set cast; rather than a character for the characters' sake. Like if you wanted to write someone who gets widowed, your obligated to write a spouse. And if you have to write a spouse (especially if they only fill a gap in the story,) your gonna write the spouse.
 
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New blogpost, titled: "Update on Monday", just goes over the doll race and testing/implementation of sleep sex mechanics then "bug fixing" over the weekend.
Let's see if she'll go through with the promise
I wonder, she talks about it like she's programming around characters not being allowed an action. The witches seal already immobilizes during sex as an item-bound action, couldn't she just call that binding function through a sex action? Or, failing that, make them react with nothing, (like as a sex action,) rather than programing around so they don't react at all? I don't mod this game so I don't know how bad the spaghetti is, but that seems reasonable, right? Any modders know?
 
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