Java Lilith's Throne [v0.4.11.3 Hotfix] [Innoxia]

[Blooming Lily]

The last few pages were almost exclusively complaints about the development speed of the game. I think most other games have a thread in the Off-Topic forum for that.

LT has one too.

 

[PixelLewd]

LT has one too.

And it apparently hasn't had any activity in 254 days.....yeah I think I'll stick to this one, would rather not risk having mods decide to smite me on grounds of necroing a thread, regardless of it'd apply or not.

 

[Qahlz]

And it apparently hasn't had any activity in 254 days.....yeah I think I'll stick to this one, would rather not risk having mods decide to smite me on grounds of necroing a thread, regardless of it'd apply or not.

It's in off-topic, most rules don't apply in that section. Don't think necro-ing is even a rule on this forum.

 

[aspar4gus]

It's in off-topic, most rules don't apply in that section.

MMD Discussion & Sharing thread was an off-topic btw

 

[Corn Syrup Elemental]

Does there happen to exist a mod that adds personalities and virginities to Conte Preferences? I wanna try genning some "pure" girls and savescumming with "Vaginal Virginity" always on in hopes of getting one with no prior oral or anal experiences has been a hassle, not to mention having no way of getting personalities (even if they don't do anything).

 

[Yeppers34]

Does there happen to exist a mod that adds personalities and virginities to Conte Preferences? I wanna try genning some "pure" girls and savescumming with "Vaginal Virginity" always on in hopes of getting one with no prior oral or anal experiences has been a hassle, not to mention having no way of getting personalities (even if they don't do anything).

I dont believe so, im pretty sure most of the mods for this game are just cosmetic.

 

[ForlornRoller]

Does there happen to exist a mod that adds personalities and virginities to Conte Preferences? I wanna try genning some "pure" girls and savescumming with "Vaginal Virginity" always on in hopes of getting one with no prior oral or anal experiences has been a hassle, not to mention having no way of getting personalities (even if they don't do anything).

Keldonslayer/Loliphile's mod has a virginity slider, along with some other stuff you can turn off. It's also got some stuff generally considered objectionable though so be forewarned (clue's in the dude's name). Should be in the thread here somewhere.

 

[sgb3]

Keldonslayer/Loliphile's mod has a virginity slider, along with some other stuff you can turn off. It's also got some stuff generally considered objectionable though so be forewarned (clue's in the dude's name). Should be in the thread here somewhere.

It's also (intentionally?) bugged in a state where it ignores the age ranges you set and just generates nearly every random NPC at the minimum age. It never got fixed as he disappeared a while ago, which is a shame because his mod is lightning fast compared to the official release; which I can fully understand because he offered code to Inno in regards to that performance improvement and, of course, she did nothing with it. Why keep doing work when the actual dev has no interest in the project anymore?

 

[Arkus86]

It's also (intentionally?) bugged in a state where it ignores the age ranges you set and just generates nearly every random NPC at the minimum age. It never got fixed as he disappeared a while ago, which is a shame because his mod is lightning fast compared to the official release; which I can fully understand because he offered code to Inno in regards to that performance improvement and, of course, she did nothing with it. Why keep doing work when the actual dev has no interest in the project anymore?

Last I heard, It seems Inno is finally getting around to implement some of his fixes... maybe four years after he first tried. But apparently that was only going to come sometime after the update we are now waiting for. At the earliest.

Hi.

I do think around 25-50% of the performance my version grants should be coming in the next update to Lilith's Throne, as innoxia has told me it's going to be pulled in the next update.

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That is, when the next update eventually arrives...



Good, don't need anyone else getting in trouble, let me take all the flak for creating, and maintaining such a divisive creation.
I'm trying to get inno to eventually incorporate the changes, but as the first attempt was 4 years ago to no avail, I made the PR's more digestible this time for her sake.

 

[Corn Syrup Elemental]

It's also (intentionally?) bugged in a state where it ignores the age ranges you set and just generates nearly every random NPC at the minimum age. It never got fixed as he disappeared a while ago, which is a shame because his mod is lightning fast compared to the official release; which I can fully understand because he offered code to Inno in regards to that performance improvement and, of course, she did nothing with it. Why keep doing work when the actual dev has no interest in the project anymore?

Given how many seemingly borderline from-the-ground-up redesigns LT has seen, and how the primary issue I see being voiced about "taking it into people's own hands" regarding LT is Innoxia taking the remakes down, I wonder why nobody wants to just make their own game in a unique IP while simply "taking inspiration" from LT's mechanics. Is it the lack of good writers?

 

[LubricatedKitty]

Given how many seemingly borderline from-the-ground-up redesigns LT has seen, and how the primary issue I see being voiced about "taking it into people's own hands" regarding LT is Innoxia taking the remakes down, I wonder why nobody wants to just make their own game in a unique IP while simply "taking inspiration" from LT's mechanics. Is it the lack of good writers?

They do but game development is hard and if you’re making your own game, you’re naturally gonna have a specific vision that may look indiscernable from LT even though you were inspired by it. Some devs may like LT so they make a similar lore for their world but their game is a VN because they don’t really care about the sandbox part.

And you’re definitely not gonna want to compete directly with a juggernaut like LT unless your game has features that clearly set it apart from LT. Because they’ll (the people not in comment sections or forums but your average consumer who just plays a game then goes about their daily life) just go to LT because it has years and years of content in it.

Also, working in teams when profit is involved, or even for free is a whole other can of worms that nobody wants to bother with.

There are like 100 reasons why there is no game just like LT set in a different setting with different lore, which in itself is another huge reason that game doesn’t exist.

 

[Draupnir7]

I wonder why nobody wants to just make their own game in a unique IP while simply "taking inspiration" from LT's mechanics.

There have been a few. They have all petered out after a while, I assume because building up from the bottom is a fairly tall order when trying to match LT for sheer character options.

Just slapping a new coat of paint on and a fence down is the easiest to do, despite having to wrestle with the programming under the hood. The foundation is already there, you can tell by the ominous creaking.

Original work or new paint job, I do hope one of these projects picks up the needed momentum in spite of what a thankless task this ultimately is.

 

[Blooming Lily]

Given how many seemingly borderline from-the-ground-up redesigns LT has seen, and how the primary issue I see being voiced about "taking it into people's own hands" regarding LT is Innoxia taking the remakes down, I wonder why nobody wants to just make their own game in a unique IP while simply "taking inspiration" from LT's mechanics. Is it the lack of good writers?

Imagine, if you will, a game whose dev had bad work ethic and phoned it in for patreon money. A lot of competitor games popped up trying to correct perceived failings of the original and finish the game first or be a better version. Every single time it went the same way:

> They announced the game too early, if at all
> Momentum slowed because spite is a bad long term motivator
> Competitor dev burned out because they underestimated the scope
> Original dev is, shall we say, not too happy with them existing (even though they filed off the serial numbers)
> Competitor game cancelled

Though it sounds a lot like LT, that game was actually Yandere Simulator, and this happened so many times that people wrote off the entire genre as "cursed" and stopped trying to compete at all.

 

[aspar4gus]

Imagine, if you will, a game whose dev had bad work ethic and phoned it in for patreon money. A lot of competitor games popped up trying to correct perceived failings of the original and finish the game first or be a better version. Every single time it went the same way:

> They announced the game too early, if at all
> Momentum slowed because spite is a bad long term motivator
> Competitor dev burned out because they underestimated the scope
> Original dev is, shall we say, not too happy with them existing (even though they filed off the serial numbers)
> Competitor game cancelled

Though it sounds a lot like LT, that game was actually Yandere Simulator, and this happened so many times that people wrote off the entire genre as "cursed" and stopped trying to compete at all.

Lmao these also works for the cursed breeding games

 

[Arkus86]

Imagine, if you will, a game whose dev had bad work ethic and phoned it in for patreon money. A lot of competitor games popped up trying to correct perceived failings of the original and finish the game first or be a better version. Every single time it went the same way:

> They announced the game too early, if at all
> Momentum slowed because spite is a bad long term motivator
> Competitor dev burned out because they underestimated the scope
> Original dev is, shall we say, not too happy with them existing (even though they filed off the serial numbers)
> Competitor game cancelled

Though it sounds a lot like LT, that game was actually Yandere Simulator, and this happened so many times that people wrote off the entire genre as "cursed" and stopped trying to compete at all.

For LT, I don't think Inno heard about most of those projects inside her little bubble, but otherwise it fits LT as well. I've heard of several people starting their own projects inspired by LT in this thread. For all but one, it was also the last time I heard about the project.

 

[Tshdhxujs]

Imagine, if you will, a game whose dev had bad work ethic and phoned it in for patreon money. A lot of competitor games popped up trying to correct perceived failings of the original and finish the game first or be a better version. Every single time it went the same way:

> They announced the game too early, if at all
> Momentum slowed because spite is a bad long term motivator
> Competitor dev burned out because they underestimated the scope
> Original dev is, shall we say, not too happy with them existing (even though they filed off the serial numbers)
> Competitor game cancelled

Though it sounds a lot like LT, that game was actually Yandere Simulator, and this happened so many times that people wrote off the entire genre as "cursed" and stopped trying to compete at all.

This is cap because there are MANY finished yandere copies in fact there's so many there's even one for Android that was finished too man.

 

[Roderik96]

Does this game work on an Android device with Joiplay? I'm using a Samsung tablet.

 

[Deversari88]

Thats my concern, I understand its easy to get burnt out but the lack of communication and constant missed deadlines are too much. For all we know Inno could be doing nothing and collecting cash from people.

Y'all want to tell him or should I?

 

[Yeppers34]

Thats my concern, I understand its easy to get burnt out but the lack of communication and constant missed deadlines are too much. For all we know Inno could be doing nothing and collecting cash from people.

Yeahhh buddy so here's the thing....Inno has this habit of giving self imposed deadlines, goes completely radio silent and then comes back like many months later in a blog post talking about how she's been shitting,pissing and throwing up on herself with stress about missing the deadline and if we're "lucky" we might get some new content but in most cases we dont...rinse and repeat ad nauseum until the heat death of the universe.

 

[Arkus86]

Does this game work on an Android device with Joiplay? I'm using a Samsung tablet.

Even if it could run on a tablet or phone, it's so poorly optimized, it is generally agreed to be a bad idea to do so.