Java Lilith's Throne [v0.4.11.3 Hotfix] [Innoxia]

[caju]

I find myself asking the same question. how do i raise "CORE" values for physique and Arcane/Mana ?
The perks give you only "bonus" value. Do i need to transform into another species for that or are there other ways?
Can someone enlighten us please

enchant your clothing

 

[e-disfunction]

enchant your clothing

This just gives you enchanted clothing--I think kaneeden wants to permanently alter the character's statistic and not an item.
e-d

 

[Raf-Raf]

I didn't expect the game time to be kinda short but I still love this game nonetheless ! ! !
Third chara, a chuuni bro...I'm already dying inside...

 

[NODOGAN]

I find myself asking the same question. how do i raise "CORE" values for physique and Arcane/Mana ?
The perks give you only "bonus" value. Do i need to transform into another species for that or are there other ways?
Can someone enlighten us please

ORIGINALLY you could enchant potions to permanently boost both your Physique and Arcana (this was long since removed from the game SADDLY if i might add, i loved to maximize my character and then pick a race based on cosmetics alone and not pay much attention to the boosts each race gave me) as of now the following ways to increase your stats are:
A) Type BUGGY on any free tile to enter the game's Mod and raise it from there (if you don't want to pick a race for other than cosmetic value alone.)
B) Pick a race that raises the stat you're looking for to the highest possible (for Physique i would suggest Horse, you might lose abit Arcana but they got the HIGHEST Physique & Physical DAMAGE base stat boost of all races so far, really great for a melee character with a claymore, if you're looking for an Arcana boosting race you can never go wrong with Unicorn, it gives you plenty to work with and unlike the more recent Dragons it doesn't lower your lust resistance.)
PS: If you're like me and want to play a mostly human-looking character then make sure to enchant the transformative items to just change your hair or eyes, the game will take it as enough and grant you the race's benefits with the vast mayority of transformations.
C) Enchant your clothing to gain more Physique/Arcana depending on what you're looking for.
D) Get a Tattoo and Enchant it from Succubus Secrets on the Mall (this is even better than clothes because unlike them your Tattoo cannot be removed by enemies (you can just LAUGH at the vacuum spell if all your enchantments are in a Tattoo) so is like getting a permanent equipment-boost, don't worry you can visit Succubus Secrets again to remove it if you wish to change it's effects.)
Also if you want to make a melee character i suggest you raise both Physique and Physical Damage, i've had characters with 100 Physique and no Physical Damage increase and they honestly dealt LESS damage than characters that raised both Physique and Physical Damage so don't be too swayed by the core stats, the bonus overall when you get close to 100 is not that important, honestly a Physique around 60 to 70 will be more than enough i tend to find (THE SAME GOES FOR ARCANA, DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME TRYING TO MAXIMIZE ITS CORE STAT! Arcana Efficiency (how much mana spells cost) caps at 80 so no matter how high you get your Arcana Stat you cannot make spells cost less, get your Arcana to 60-70 and then focus on raising your Arcane DAMAGE so your spells can put even Meraxis the Chunii Arch-Witch to SHAME.)

 

[Pentha]

Forgive me if I'm being stupid and missing a big button, but are you saying I can directly level my physique? Or are you talking about taking the perks that give you +1 physique and +5 physique? I've already put as much as I can into that tree and at this moment it seems I'm capped at 31 Physique. It seems like there is 11 Physique points you get from the tree which would imply I have 20 as a base or from something I'm unaware of plus 11 from the Perk Tree.

Also thank you so much for your response. You were very detailed and it is much appreciated. Thanks a ton for answering my questions. In the meantime using the enchantment system I have created the black socks of power since in my head-canon socks are the least likely thing to be taken away from me.

that is exactly what i meant, i have no real idea about raising physique, since i play a mage that can destroy everything, otherwise things other people say, enchant clothing with "Major Boost Physique", you should also get the clothing enchanting perks

 

[Sabɘ]

Does this game have any sex animations or sprites? Because I saw a guy comparing this game to Degrees of Lewdity, but Im pretty sure it is fully text based, unlike DoL. I would love to try it if it has some.
Thanks

 

[kaneeden]

ORIGINALLY you could enchant potions to permanently boost both your Physique and Arcana (this was long since removed from the game SADDLY if i might add, i loved to maximize my character and then pick a race based on cosmetics alone and not pay much attention to the boosts each race gave me) as of now the following ways to increase your stats are:
A) Type BUGGY on any free tile to enter the game's Mod and raise it from there (if you don't want to pick a race for other than cosmetic value alone.)
B) Pick a race that raises the stat you're looking for to the highest possible (for Physique i would suggest Horse, you might lose abit Arcana but they got the HIGHEST Physique & Physical DAMAGE base stat boost of all races so far, really great for a melee character with a claymore, if you're looking for an Arcana boosting race you can never go wrong with Unicorn, it gives you plenty to work with and unlike the more recent Dragons it doesn't lower your lust resistance.)
PS: If you're like me and want to play a mostly human-looking character then make sure to enchant the transformative items to just change your hair or eyes, the game will take it as enough and grant you the race's benefits with the vast mayority of transformations.
C) Enchant your clothing to gain more Physique/Arcana depending on what you're looking for.
D) Get a Tattoo and Enchant it from Succubus Secrets on the Mall (this is even better than clothes because unlike them your Tattoo cannot be removed by enemies (you can just LAUGH at the vacuum spell if all your enchantments are in a Tattoo) so is like getting a permanent equipment-boost, don't worry you can visit Succubus Secrets again to remove it if you wish to change it's effects.)
Also if you want to make a melee character i suggest you raise both Physique and Physical Damage, i've had characters with 100 Physique and no Physical Damage increase and they honestly dealt LESS damage than characters that raised both Physique and Physical Damage so don't be too swayed by the core stats, the bonus overall when you get close to 100 is not that important, honestly a Physique around 60 to 70 will be more than enough i tend to find (THE SAME GOES FOR ARCANA, DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME TRYING TO MAXIMIZE ITS CORE STAT! Arcana Efficiency (how much mana spells cost) caps at 80 so no matter how high you et your Arcana Stat you cannot make spells cost less, get your Arcana to 60-70 and then focus on raising your Arcane DAMAGE so your spells can put even Meraxis the Chunii Arch-Wizard to SHAME.)

thank your for these answers, there are many things i didn´t know about like the tattoo anti vacuum build or that hair and eyes is enough for the race values, that sounds extremly helpful thanks again

 

[NODOGAN]

thank your for these answers, there are many things i didn´t know about like the tattoo anti vacuum build or that hair and eyes is enough for the race values, that sounds extremly helpful thanks again

You're welcome, we're here to have fun and help eachother after all! just one more friendly advice: The tattoos and enchantments are gonna be costly no matter what you do, so you need a good money source in this game, you can either go:
A) Tipe BUGGY and get money from the mod.
Or
B) The "Milk Factory" strategy as i like to call it, which consist of:
1) Start the game beating mobs at the alleys (MAKE SURE to take all their money and clothes from the inventory option after beating them) until all your 5 inventory spaces are full.
2) Go to the Mall and sell everything you've got there to the respective NPCs (consumables to Ralph, Clothing to Nyan, weapons you don't use to wolf chick whose name i forgot right now, etc), rinse and repeat until you've gotten 30.000 flames at least.
3) Do the Slave Sidequest (just go Left from Lilaya's house, get to the slaver alley, talk to the cat boy there to start the sidequest and get a Slave's license) and buy at least 1 slave collar from him.
4) Hunt your first slave and MAKE SURE is from a race with self-transformation powers (either a Succubus on the dark alleys on Dominion or an Imp/Slime on Submission) transform her to your liking on the options after beating her in a fight and RAISE HER MILK PRODUCTION & REGENERATION AS MUCH AS YOU CAN (change the milk flavors and properties while you're at it to earn extra money), then put the slave collar on her.
5) Get a Milking Room in Lilaya's house and hook your new slave to it, she should make at least 80.000 Flames per hour (If extra breasts don't bother you then go for it, they literaly double your Slave's earnings), a normal work shift will get you 320.000 Flames in a day.
6) Rinse and Repeat with other slaves till you're swimming in money (i tend to go for 8 slaves and 2 Quadruple Slave Rooms, having 4 of them on the milker during the day and the other 4 during the night shift), congratulations now you're earning basically a Million Flames on a daily basis (which lets you buy and try stuff to your heart's content, such as Fetish Potions to make those slaves LOVE being milked/everything you like to do sex-wise and thus raise their loyalty and affection for you while they make you money! let alone pay for expensive upgrades to Lilaya's Mansion if you're in the mood for it.)

 

[kaneeden]

You're welcome, we're here to have fun and help eachother after all! just one more friendly advice: The tattoos and enchantments are gonna be costly no matter what you do, so you need a good money source in this game, you can either go:
A) Tipe BUGGY and get money from the mod.
Or
B) The "Milk Factory" strategy as i like to call it, which consist of:
1) Start the game beating mobs at the alleys (MAKE SURE to take all their money and clothes from the inventory option after beating them) until all your 5 inventory spaces are full.
2) Go to the Mall and sell everything you've got there to the respective NPCs (consumables to Ralph, Clothing to Nyan, weapons you don't use to wolf chick whose name i forgot right now, etc), rinse and repeat until you've gotten 30.000 flames at least.
3) Do the Slave Sidequest (just go Left from Lilaya's house, get to the slaver alley, talk to the cat boy there to start the sidequest and get a Slave's license) and buy at least 1 slave collar from him.
4) Hunt your first slave and MAKE SURE is from a race with self-transformation powers (either a Succubus on the dark alleys on Dominion or an Imp/Slime on Submission) transform her to your liking on the options after beating her in a fight and RAISE HER MILK PRODUCTION & REGENERATION AS MUCH AS YOU CAN (change the milk flavors and properties while you're at it to earn extra money), then put the slave collar on her.
5) Get a Milking Room in Lilaya's house and hook your new slave to it, she should make at least 80.000 Flames per hour (If extra breasts don't bother you then go for it, they literaly double your Slave's earnings), a normal work shift will get you 320.000 Flames in a day.
6) Rinse and Repeat with other slaves till you're swimming in money (i tend to go for 8 slaves and 2 Quadruple Slave Rooms, having 4 of them on the milker during the day and the other 4 during the night shift), congratulations now you're earning basically a Million Flames on a daily basis (which lets you buy and try stuff to your heart's content, such as Fetish Potions to make those slaves LOVE being milked/everything you like to do sex-wise and thus raise their loyalty and affection for you while they make you money! let alone pay for expensive upgrades to Lilaya's Mansion if you're in the mood for it.)

Thank you, i try to play as long as possible without ever using cheats because i know as soon as i start using them i cant stop anymore by finding excuses for myself why to type them in again and again for every little inconvinience and very soon after i loose interest in a game.
I did the sidequest, have a bit money and some spare slaverooms already rented and now i am going to try step 5 and 6
Deciding what the taste is going to be will take a long time staring at the selection screen

 

[Fakeuser002]

Does this game has any sex animations or sprites? Because I saw a guy comparing this game to Degrees of Lewdity, but Im pretty sure it is fully text based, unlike DoL. I would love to try it if it has some.
Thanks

Some characters have art for them, but that's about it. There is no representation for the PC either.

 

[Sabɘ]

Some characters have art for them, but that's about it. There is no representation for the PC either.

Oh, ok. Thank you.

 

[Carl0sDanger]

Some characters have art for them, but that's about it. There is no representation for the PC either.

It would be great if there was some avatar generator that created character portraits from the descriptions. Realistically though, the sheer detail of the character creation would make that all but impossible.

 

[YoungBlooded]

It would be great if there was some avatar generator that created character portraits from the descriptions. Realistically though, the sheer detail of the character creation would make that all but impossible.

There's so much shit packed in it's almost impossible to even do 30 odd characters.

 

[Fakeuser002]

It would be great if there was some avatar generator that created character portraits from the descriptions. Realistically though, the sheer detail of the character creation would make that all but impossible.

They tried something like that for CoC 1, but they quickly realized it was a doomed venture. It's just impossible to make something like that even remotely decent for transformation games, because of the sheer number of variables they would have to take into account.

 

[Carl0sDanger]

Thank you, i try to play as long as possible without ever using cheats because i know as soon as i start using them i cant stop anymore by finding excuses for myself why to type them in again and again for every little inconvinience and very soon after i loose interest in a game.
I did the sidequest, have a bit money and some spare slaverooms already rented and now i am going to try step 5 and 6
Deciding what the taste is going to be will take a long time staring at the selection screen

I'm the same with cheats. I either cheat outright or not at all.

Just an addition to NODOGAN's advice above:

1. The Imp patrols around the Submission fortresses are the fastest way to collect easily-transformable milk-slaves. I tend to grab four Imps at a time and make them into what I like to call "Futa-cows" (this way, you get three kinds of fluid).

2. Flavouring the milked fluids is more a cosmetic choice; what you really want to be sure to do is make those fluids alcoholic, hallucenogenic and addictive to increase their value.

3. Don't worry too much about "shifts" for the milkers. Unless you want them to level up, you can leave them there 24/7.

 

[NODOGAN]

3. Don't worry too much about "shifts" for the milkers. Unless you want them to level up, you can leave them there 24/7.

Complete true on that, i'm just a huge softie and i like to rent a room for them to rest and get pampered because:
1) Everything i earn from them more than enough cover the expenses so is nothing that hits my wallet in-game.
and
2) I feel bad for them when they get the "exhausted" debuff so i just give them those freedoms based on my own personality lol.

 

[Pentha]

Complete true on that, i'm just a huge softie and i like to rent a room for them to rest and get pampered because:
1) Everything i earn from them more than enough cover the expenses so is nothing that hits my wallet in-game.
and
2) I feel bad for them when they get the "exhausted" debuff so i just give them those freedoms based on my own personality lol.

You know you're a good person when you feel sympathy for fictional characters, lmao.

 

[Carl0sDanger]

Yeah. I just give them the milking fetish. They're still exhausted, but they're having fun.

 

[NODOGAN]

BTW completely unrelated but has anyone STOPPED and read the codex deffinition for each stat? it says Arcana powers are originated from Lilith herself and that outside of her influence/without her Arcane Spells are pretty much IMPOSSIBLE to make, just...wow, i guess you either go Physique or in the year 2069 when (IF) the main story quest is over you better usurp Lilith as the source of all Arcane power huh?

 

[Fuzzcat]

This! I said the same thing in my review: What the game is most lacking is content, not engine features. And it's been like that for years. The two other major flaws are the sex interface and the complete lack of item-balancing.

I guess you're -relatively- new to the game.
The current problem, is precisely the engine, not the content.

Inno released the game with a fair amount of content (for a new game), but engine was very basic.
Combat didn't had action points, there was no separate bars of lust, there were fewer sex options, etc etc. She compensated that with a randomly generated city (each time was loaded differently).

As she started to add content, she had the idea to start re-hashing the engine... at the same time. Which it's madness, as every change in content, needs a change in engine, which leads to bugs, and balance problems. It is a tail-biting chain.
At some point, the new content needed even more engine features and complexity, and as usual, she also derailed with extra content, AND Patreon requests. A-b-s-o-l-u-t-e madness.
Basically: every new content-thing, needed a new engine, which needed new balace/bugfixing, which lead to add more content... and so and so.

Back to my silly example:
imagine a Phalanx (let's say Spartans!), trying to raise their shields for cover, striking with the spear at the front, advance, and finish off downed opponents, all at the same time. Impossible.

She should had stayed with the simple engine, and give a general content set-up, and then re-hash the system, or go for a complex engine/system and then start adding content.
She did both halfways, and now it's paying the price *shrug*

2. Go through all the clothing-items and give them some simple consistent stats. Doesn't need to be perfect: You can use simple rule thumb logic, like "Thongs and other minimal pieces of clothing get 1 physical resistance. Stuff like gloves get 2 and large pieces like jackets and coats get 3-4". Use similiar rules of thumb for other stats. Again: It wouldn't be perfect, but far better than now, and it could done and tested in just a single week.

All clothes gave protection at the beginning.
But there were few options.
As feats and enchantments advanced, she needed balance.
Of course, rebalancing, meant re-hashing system. Which bugged other things, and in turn needed more re-hash.
See the pattern?

3. Now stop working on the engine, bodyparts and items and crap! Just assume "This is what i got to work with, now how can build a world and story from those parts?". No, no going back and making custom code for everything: Take the building blocks you have and make a fucking game with it!

Right now, she's refactoring the goddamned engine, so she can start adding content.
Which is the right way to do it, albeit it's annoying.
If she adds a new map with new stuff, eventually she'll need to go back to patch whatever is broken by the new stuff.

Patience!