Java Lilith's Throne [v0.4.11.3 Hotfix] [Innoxia]

[Plumpunikitty]

Anyone know of a mod what does anything significant to the game? As in, aside from more clothing items I'll never wear and more ways for furries to recreate their fursona down to the tiniest detail?

Well, there's that one user that is making a bunch of shonen-related mods. Any engine level is mostly far and few between.

 

[throbzombie]

lol. There is a mod that allows you to create a character that is... younger. It also adds NPC's that are a bit... younger. I'm not gonna link it or say its name for my sake, but you can just search up Lilith's Throne mod and you will probably find it.

Any, uh, anything else?

 

[Mustang Flex]

lol. There is a mod that allows you to create a character that is... younger. It also adds NPC's that are a bit... younger. I'm not gonna link it or say its name for my sake, but you can just search up Lilith's Throne mod and you will probably find it.

Well, there's that one user that is making a bunch of shonen-related mods. Any engine level is mostly far and few between.

A mod for discord moderators, and weebery. Marvelous, absolutely phenomenal. I probably should have guessed it'd be something like this. Still, thanks for bringing options to my attention gents.

Welp, back to something a little less soul crushing. Anyone got ideas for if/how the perk trees might be retooled in the future? It wouldn't surprise me at all if the supposed placeholder is here to stay. But, if there are changes to be made, I got a couple personal hopes.

Biggest wish for the perks is less empty as hell +1% to grundle biting and the like. These perks barely do anything if you waste all your levels on them, and the interesting options are few and far between. That, and maybe some abilities what come from perks. Make it more of an exciting new boost to your power than another slight boost you need to not fall behind.

 

[throbzombie]

DSG fucked up the Enforcer encounters right good. Now I'm locked into combat after they search me even though I've got the contractor pass (the "leave" button leads to the same combat encounter as "attack"), and I've somehow been caught impersonating by two Enforcers whom I had previously fooled in another disguise. Fuck me.

-EDIT- Actually, the "attack" button on the after-sex screen does nothing now.

 

[BaloneyAmone]

Yeah, I'm not a fan of the Enforcer impersonation encounters. It basically turns a fun way to access a bit of different dialogue and a way to avoid a few unsavory encounters where Enforcer patrols want to search you into a proverbial target on your back against one of the most difficult street fights in the game with how much raw damage they can spit out, especially on higher difficulties; seven round rapids into the thousand+ range are a possibility on Lilith. Really, the ease of being able to simply slip into uniform and have it work all the time was a fun way to illustrate how ultimately ineffectual they are as law enforcement: they do well enough against street trash, but anyone with the wit to deceive them won't have any trouble.

Past the actual weirdness of it, I think it only has a chance to work for the regular (Dutiful Enforcer) set; the Methodical Enforcer set I found always prompts a fight (which granted, makes sense (no Enforcer should be running around in full daylight in full tacticool loadout)). It's just very rough and very slightly betrays that sort of power fantasy core of the game. I'd like it to, if not be reverted outright, at least maybe have some way to disable it, or some opportunity to mod it out, or deceive them more often, or be clearer on what works and what doesn't.

 

[ebonheart2319]

Anyone know of a mod what does anything significant to the game? As in, aside from more clothing items I'll never wear and more ways for furries to recreate their fursona down to the tiniest detail?

Well, due to Inno borking the spaghetti code all mods are currently wearables, races, and consumables.
Supposedly shes backending code for more robust modding.

A few mods transcended cosmetic status and entered gameplay effecting, for a given value. Several have even been baked in.

Cursed Panties Mod, Hypno Goggles, Symbiote Suit, Sissification Cage...
...these are a few examples of items that "do things" beyond just being another shirt/gun/race.
Specifically they try to do things the base game does not quite allow the player to just enchant/potion directly to.

I would also point to the Latex Clothing Mod as it has a stacking set bonus with debuff, but that was baked in.

TLDR: Wearables/Races/Consumables are all the code will currently allow without angering the Spagetti Code Monster.

 

[throbzombie]

I'm gonna fuck around in the .xmls and see if I can do anything about this

Yeah, I'm not a fan of the Enforcer impersonation encounters. It basically turns a fun way to access a bit of different dialogue and a way to avoid a few unsavory encounters where Enforcer patrols want to search you into a proverbial target on your back against one of the most difficult street fights in the game with how much raw damage they can spit out, especially on higher difficulties; seven round rapids into the thousand+ range are a possibility on Lilith. Really, the ease of being able to simply slip into uniform and have it work all the time was a fun way to illustrate how ultimately ineffectual they are as law enforcement: they do well enough against street trash, but anyone with the wit to deceive them won't have any trouble.

Past the actual weirdness of it, I think it only has a chance to work for the regular (Dutiful Enforcer) set; the Methodical Enforcer set I found always prompts a fight (which granted, makes sense (no Enforcer should be running around in full daylight in full tacticool loadout)). It's just very rough and very slightly betrays that sort of power fantasy core of the game. I'd like it to, if not be reverted outright, at least maybe have some way to disable it, or some opportunity to mod it out, or deceive them more often, or be clearer on what works and what doesn't.

I'm gonna fuck around in the .xmls and see I can't do anything about it.

 

[anon6076]

Where else are you going to get this level of hilarious project management

Well, government/military get close. I remember there was a year when I got to work, checked list of tasks, seen nothing and started Quake server to relax with fellow developers.

 

[Asia Argento]

Still waiting for more main story stuff.

i was too. The changelog had me stoked until I read Inno's own post on her discord.

 

[Asia Argento]

Welp, at least the update is Xbox 360 size... so I am not wasting an hour waiting on the update to DL.

 

[Gam3Fr3ak20]

Found a bug. After changing character to lamia style legs, (don't know if its for all of them, but dragon-lamia certainly is a problem) the sex menu still registers you as still wearing pants/underwear and cannot be unequipped because of leg and crotch blockers. Only workaround is to displace/unequipped all, but comes back after every encounter.

 

[throbzombie]

Found a bug.

That's like going to Israel and saying you found a Jew.

 

[hidabyeet]

I don't understand why Inno keeps gaining subs with this hilarious development speed. Its honestly baffling. I guess the horniness takes over.

 

[NODOGAN]

I don't understand why Inno keeps gaining subs with this hilarious development speed. Its honestly baffling. I guess the horniness takes over.

I'm willing to wager that over the fact they ARE new subs, think about it: imagine you see this game for the first time ever and don't know anything about the current story (or Inno's work ethic and particular coding hell) and it's your first playthrough, wouldn't you be amazed? things we take for granted like the customization not only of your character, but of npc's genders, races, looks, sizes, sexual prefferences, etc just...is mind-blowing to anyone just discovering this game for the first time (let alone discovering all of the different builds you can do before you settle on the super melee one like anyone looking to maximize damage.)

Just by and large i feel the initial run on the game plays a HUGE impact on Inno gaining new subs cuz honestly LT is like the ultimate customization porn game (as far as i know, if y'all know of another game that let's you customize to this degree i'd LOVE to hear it.)

 

[hidabyeet]

I'm willing to wager that over the fact they ARE new subs, think about it: imagine you see this game for the first time ever and don't know anything about the current story (or Inno's work ethic and particular coding hell) and it's your first playthrough, wouldn't you be amazed? things we take for granted like the customization not only of your character, but of npc's genders, races, looks, sizes, sexual prefferences, etc just...is mind-blowing to anyone just discovering this game for the first time (let alone discovering all of the different builds you can do before you settle on the super melee one like anyone looking to maximize damage.)

Just by and large i feel the initial run on the game plays a HUGE impact on Inno gaining new subs cuz honestly LT is like the ultimate customization porn game (as far as i know, if y'all know of another game that let's you customize to this degree i'd LOVE to hear it.)

I guess that makes sense because the new subs dont see the delays and all that since they come into this somewhat blind.

 

[tehlemon]

I'm willing to wager that over the fact they ARE new subs, think about it: imagine you see this game for the first time ever and don't know anything about the current story (or Inno's work ethic and particular coding hell) and it's your first playthrough, wouldn't you be amazed? things we take for granted like the customization not only of your character, but of npc's genders, races, looks, sizes, sexual prefferences, etc just...is mind-blowing to anyone just discovering this game for the first time (let alone discovering all of the different builds you can do before you settle on the super melee one like anyone looking to maximize damage.)

Just by and large i feel the initial run on the game plays a HUGE impact on Inno gaining new subs cuz honestly LT is like the ultimate customization porn game (as far as i know, if y'all know of another game that let's you customize to this degree i'd LOVE to hear it.)

I agree. Which is why the current patch bullshit is so offensive and manipulative.

This entire patch is just a straight up lie to say that she finally got the update out when it wasn't. The roadmap makes it clear we're probably a month or more away from the actual patch being released. Even in this thread, how many people didn't realize what she had done with it? Even more people had the same confusion on discord, and they're being way more shifty in letting people know what's going on.

This entire patch is just a cash grab.

 

[NODOGAN]

I agree. Which is why the current patch bullshit is so offensive and manipulative.

This entire patch is just a straight up lie to say that she finally got the update out when it wasn't. The roadmap makes it clear we're probably a month or more away from the actual patch being released. Even in this thread, how many people didn't realize what she had done with it? Even more people had the same confusion on discord, and they're being way more shifty in letting people know what's going on.

This entire patch is just a cash grab.

Tell me about it, from what i understood the Human Liberation Front had been added (to some extend) in this new patch and i spend like an hour roaming the bat caves looking for them with no luck!

Only thing i can say for sure they added was the badger race which btw being honest...is very underwhelming in terms of bonuses, what is it with all the new races being added giving you lame ass bonuses of +5 or +10 at best?

Take a page out of the frigging Horse and make some goddam +25 SOMETHING ALREADY! cuz until that ain't the case i'm sorry but WHY would i waste effort in being your race when i can be a Crocodile? or a Horse? or a Tiger? THOSE ARE THE BEST melee options by far for melee builds and guess what? they were made by Inno from day 1.

 

[ebonheart2319]

Take a page out of the frigging Horse and make some goddam +25 SOMETHING ALREADY!

SS- Dragon Types be stupid OP. Turbo Stupid.
S- Gryphons and Alitaur be Slightly less so.
A- Bears and Hyena's are about at Horse/BigCat/Gator baseline... might be one or two more if you squint.

B- Pheonix-chan has extra 75% Fire Damage if you wanted to be a Glass Canon Mage.

C- Most of the rest is firmly in the ignore stats and RP freely with base humans at the bottom.

Z- Except Squirrels. They get a single Health Shield point, making them the literal worst race.

 

[Mustang Flex]

SS- Dragon Types be stupid OP. Turbo Stupid.
S- Gryphons and Alitaur be Slightly less so.
A- Bears and Hyena's are about at Horse/BigCat/Gator baseline... might be one or two more if you squint.

B- Pheonix-chan has extra 75% Fire Damage if you wanted to be a Glass Canon Mage.

C- Most of the rest is firmly in the ignore stats and RP freely with base humans at the bottom.

Z- Except Squirrels. They get a single Health Shield point, making them the literal worst race.

I wish dragons were even remotely balanced, or that other races had any reason other than "I wanna make my fursona in game" to pick them. I kinda get why the mythical races have better stats, but with their TFs having no higher bar to entry than all the shit tier ones, having the audacity to play the game for the game play means gravitating to a handful of your options over all others.

Truth be told, not entirely sure how one might fix this. Might just be a case of there just isn't any unfucking the situation. Though off the top of my head, I could think of something. Maybe some kind of race level, perhaps gained with time spent as a race, or along exp you gain normally. Each race starts out with low stat modifiers, but grows in power as you gain them. You could still make races that are dramatically better than others, but spread that power out over more levels.

 

[throbzombie]

SS- Dragon Types be stupid OP. Turbo Stupid.
S- Gryphons and Alitaur be Slightly less so.
A- Bears and Hyena's are about at Horse/BigCat/Gator baseline... might be one or two more if you squint.

B- Pheonix-chan has extra 75% Fire Damage if you wanted to be a Glass Canon Mage.

C- Most of the rest is firmly in the ignore stats and RP freely with base humans at the bottom.

Z- Except Squirrels. They get a single Health Shield point, making them the literal worst race.

What does any of this matter? The game is so cheesy that your character build is just as cosmetic as your outfit.