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Keldin

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it literally just hit me that the PR stands for Progress Report, not Public Relations.
tho it seems to be pulling double duty as both
This also doesnt work.
This situation heavily reminds me about one Russian saying.
"The penguin is a proud bird. It wouldn't fly until you kick it".
Was at an interview for a trade school alongside two other interviewees, being interviewed by an old russian dude. One of the other interviewees, also an old russian dude, mentioned having prior experiance with the trade we were interviewing for, but that had been a ways back. The interviewer's reassured him saying it would be fine, after all "Is like ex-KGB!"

russia y u gotta bring your secret police into "it's like riding a bike"?
LMAO you're funny
So is there a betting pool or death pool on who manages to finish their engine overhaul first? Lilith's Throne doesn't exactly seem favored for being the winner in the thread, but given the other contenders are Trials In Tainted Space and No Haven I'd say LT has just as good a chance as the others.

The death pool is of course for which of their code bases finally gives up the ghost fisrt and spontaneously bursts into flames.
 

JCD32

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Is anyone else's game having severe slowdown and not even responding after a bit? I have the 32x version downloaded and it used to work fine but now it runs horribly.
 

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This game seems cool and all but fuck Java. Seriously.
I am assuming that you are not aware of there being an exe version of the game as well, there was one made after people pointed out problems with java now inno always posts an update to executable version and the java version
 
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Is anyone else's game having severe slowdown and not even responding after a bit? I have the 32x version downloaded and it used to work fine but now it runs horribly.
if you are having problems with the java version then you can try the executable version of the game it is over on inno's blog
 

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Thanks, while not exactly what I was searching for it did manage to point me to what I wanted. Namely altering the jobs perk . Now.... how do I insert the files into my game?
Looks like I fucked up on my reading comprehension skills again, sorry lol.

In order to build, you'll need a Java compiler. javac converts source code (.java) into bytecode (.class), which is then converted into machine code by the JIT compiler and the Java interpreter inside of the JVM.

If you're confused about the differences between JDK, JRE and JVM, there's a . Basically, JDK is a superset of JRE, and contains everything that is in JRE, plus tools such as the compilers and debuggers necessary for developing applets and applications. JRE provides the libraries, the Java Virtual Machine (JVM), and other components to run applets and applications written in the Java programming language.

As for how to build, as tehlemon said, there are building guides here and all over the place (including Inno's " ") but keep in mind you DON'T need a full-blown IDE if you're just going to actually just build and only have your own fancy stuff for code editing (or don't need to keep the code at all). You can literally do that .

tl;dr:
- Get JDK or an IDE if you actually need development tools and a debugger, otherwise get javac, libs and 1.8 dependencies (or if you don't intend to code, build and release anything higher than Java 8 for some reason, get the Java 8 JDK)
- If you do get an IDE, include the path to the 1.8 JRE for the Java Compiler to enable 1.8 compliance as tend to break backward compatibility, then enable 1.8 compliance in that specific project. Again, don't get a Java 8 IDE just for that game, this is a terrible idea (what Inno's super fun guide doesn't tell you but Oracle and Sun do is that older versions of IDEs - especially within the JRE, JavaSE and Java itself due to how it works - come with that may still have to be manually patched and can still be exploited). , especially lol. tl;tl;dr: Unless you're building on something that doesn't have any kind of Internet access and never runs anything else than a barebones OS that self-destructs after use (like Tails), it's best to increase your odds of not getting rekt by getting a stable, signed, verified by server, verified by client, checked against unique keys version.

tl;tl;dr if you needed aspirins here:
Stay safe, get compiler, mash buttons, build jar, help people stay safe by not fucking up

throbzombie has been providing builds for a long time so if you need a less wall-of-texty approach, I'll leave it to him (sorry for assuming genders, please use the name triplet and increase your feminity if needed).

(Yes, text porn is about making funny and arousing walls of text, not about adding placeholders or checking for every single orifice before sex to make the game as "realistic" as possible when that time would be best used following a roadmap, as this kind of shit causes monstrous bloat and massive performance fuckups. Especially by doing it backwards in Java, because Java isn't exactly going to tell you "you're doing it wrong, I'm not supposed to be used this way" or "but that's the wrong hole" unless you raise actual exceptions - and that still won't fix the performance problem.)
 

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@throbzombie has been providing builds for a long time so if you need a less wall-of-texty approach, I'll leave it to him (sorry for assuming genders, please use the name triplet and increase your feminity if needed).
I stopped building this thing months ago when I accidentally updated my Java. I just snag the backer builds from SS.
 

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So is there a betting pool or death pool on who manages to finish their engine overhaul first? Lilith's Throne doesn't exactly seem favored for being the winner in the thread, but given the other contenders are Trials In Tainted Space and No Haven I'd say LT has just as good a chance as the others.

The death pool is of course for which of their code bases finally gives up the ghost fisrt and spontaneously bursts into flames.
I mean, I think TiTS is going to win that one. Fen might be a weirdo, and they really live their stupid giant futa nonsense, but the actual programmers on that game know what they're doing. Their problem is size. Their game is like, orders of magnitude larger than some others, specially with them redesigning their parser.

edit: Win as finish first, not last.

Is anyone else's game having severe slowdown and not even responding after a bit? I have the 32x version downloaded and it used to work fine but now it runs horribly.
That's a feature, not a bug!

Best recommendation I can give you is switch to the Jar version. I have better luck with it. But yeah, this game has serious issues with that

I am assuming that you are not aware of there being an exe version of the game as well, there was one made after people pointed out problems with java now inno always posts an update to executable version and the java version
The exe version is still Java...

The current version is backers-only and so is not available on the blog.
I think it was still posted a few pages back. If not, a couple people could probably build it for you.

let me guess few decade later and it still not complete or just left rotten by dev
definitely not complete, but progress is slowwww
 
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Keldin

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The progress has been painfully slow for so long now that it's kinda pointless to still bitch about it.
Not quite as pointless the thread would be without complaints or dunking on Innoxia. Like what, you want people just talking about content? Cuz you might as well axe the thread.

"Added clothing made by modders to the game for the 8th time in a row and a smattering of bug fixes" doesn't exactly generate much in the way of discussion after all.
 
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Right, that was me. I'm giving Inno five of my hard-won shekels every month to provide links for the thread.
Sorry, I should I caught that. Only kinda half-assed paying attention to what I'm doing today. On-call work this weekend has me sleep deprived lol
 

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I stopped building this thing months ago when I accidentally updated my Java. I just snag the backer builds from SS.
Fuck, sorry for also assuming this part throbzombie... Thanks for posting here for people who don't know how to do it :)
Right, that was me. I'm giving Inno five of my hard-won shekels every month to provide links for the thread.
Please don't feel obligated to do so, every cent - or penny in Londonspeak - counts during a permanent pandemic most people don't even take seriously. We'll manage - most of us can provide builds, both .jar and .exe. At least we know you're doing it for the community (and the hard-working modders?) so thank you very much for your dedication either way.
let me guess few decade later and it still not complete or just left rotten by dev
Inno did state "alpha", so yes, this is likely to be a permanent alpha.

To her defense, most paywalled or half-paywalled games aren't past beta stage, and that includes games that aren't on F95. It's also 99% public as only the building part is "walled" to my (limited) knowledge. Unless being able to meet the maker also counts as a privilege.
Sorry, I should I caught that. Only kinda half-assed paying attention to what I'm doing today. On-call work this weekend has me sleep deprived lol
Please take care of yourself first, the zone is not a priority! Yeah, I know, that's what we told each other...
Like what, you want people just talking about content? Cuz you might as well axe the thread.
There are a few threads around with autowarns and/or autobans the instant a complaint or non-content post shows up because the staff had it with the mess and those threads were much younger than this one when the waves started.

At least, that's the official version, I'm not a staffer.

edit: Trying to post fast. I'm going to fail again.
 

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- If you do get an IDE, include the path to the 1.8 JRE for the Java Compiler to enable 1.8 compliance as tend to break backward compatibility, then enable 1.8 compliance in that specific project.
If anyone goes this route, I highly recommend . They have a free Community Edition available that has more than enough features to get things rolling. It makes it pretty easy to juggle around a few different JDKs, and is even capable of downloading them automatically (it installs them to your user profile, too, so you don't end up with a bunch of extra environment variables and other clutter), and it's available on any platform that can run Java.

To top it all off, it offers a much smoother development experience than I ever had with Eclipse. It has its own set of quirks, like all other IDEs, but it's my favorite one so far.

There are a few threads around with autowarns and/or autobans the instant a complaint or non-content post shows up because the staff had it with the mess and those threads were much younger than this one when the waves started.
I haven't been an active poster here for too long (and I still mostly lurk, aside from a handful of threads) but I get the impression that staffers are more likely to police known-volatile threads. I'm sure if we were constant at each others' throat we'd get a lot more scrutiny, but we generally keep it civil (and when things got out of hand the mods were pretty quick to get things back on track).
 

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I haven't been an active poster here for too long (and I still mostly lurk, aside from a handful of threads) but I get the impression that staffers are more likely to police known-volatile threads. I'm sure if we were constant at each others' throat we'd get a lot more scrutiny, but we generally keep it civil (and when things got out of hand the mods were pretty quick to get things back on track).
That does seem to be the case. Which is why there was like, a few weeks where they were watching us like a hawk. I have a feeling a couple specific people got banned lol
 

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Ok so just to be sure...Foloi Fields only has demontaurs as of yet, no appearance of any ferals correct?
 
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