Java Lilith's Throne [v0.4.11.3 Hotfix] [Innoxia]

[Polarthief]

I've never been one to complain about what is ostensibly a good game. The dev cycle leaves a lot to be desired but what's there is solid. Nobody would be bitching if the game didn't have the potential it clearly has.

That's the problem. It's such a good skeleton (outside of the abysmal performance) and people are, understandably, pissed that this dev does not give a single fuck about her game that she makes over $7,000 a MONTH for doing literally nothing. In the two years I've followed this game, less content has come out for it than other games put out in a month, and no, those other games make nowhere close to what this dev is pulling in.

Do I like LT? Absolutely, and would kill to see more content for it (especially non-female content in the main storyline). Would I ever consider giving any amount of money to this game? Fuck no, the dev is a terrible person and deserves all the flak she gets. She makes up excuses as to why she did nothing for the week and then apologizes for continuing to miss her own deadlines and she does that for months until she drops a patch so devoid of content that you'd think the US Congress was responsible for working on it.

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really?? 7.300$ every month for this shit!?
you guys are crazy...

Yup, horrible, enabling, simps who continue to blow their money on literally nothing. It's outright pathetic.

 

[BobCarter]

Can we address how absurdly broken the economy in this game is or has that already been talked to death?
The moment you're able to defeat a succubus/incubus in combat, you can enslave them as dairy cows. Since they can self transform, you can max out their milk production and add all the modifiers to get over 200k flames every day for every succubus you put in the milking room. When you're making a couple million flames every day, you can just potion your way to invulnerability.
This makes the "chef" job objectively the best starting perk to have, btw.

Neat, but then again going around and enslaving people and raising their obediance seems to work fairly much the same, since random mobs attacking you never stops being a thing. Really there are infinite ways to break this game as many people know. My fav for level grinding was to become a filly with the sex XP leaching, infinite XP and escents. It's worth remembering that while enchantment cap is a thing, and thus makes 90% of rare magic items worthless, potion stacking is uncapped like morrowind.

 

[lcvargas]

Is DP in the game? If yes, how?

 

[kht]

Wait...the enchantment limit got removed alltogether?

It didn't. What was removed was just an old obsolete item tag that was intended for a similar function than the current enchant limit. It actually does nothing, but lots of .xml files were still referencing it.

Is DP in the game? If yes, how?

Double penetration? Yes. In any sex scene with three or more characters, with two or more having dicks, you just need a suitable position and then simply have the two dick-having characters fuck the other one.

Most scenes in the game are with only two characters, though. The main exceptions would be enforcer encounters (threesome), imp gangs (fivesome) and fucking two slaves together when they're on the same tile. Enabling the companion system also opens some extra options, and there are a few with named NPCs too.

Of course, if there's tails and/or tentacles available, you don't even need three characters.

 

[CurtimusPrime92]

There was another user claiming that it was an issue with Java versions between 180.172-180.331+ and said that downgrading to 172 or earlier solved the issue.

that would be me, sadly reverting java doesnt fix the bug i have with orifce insetion tooltips being cut off so you cant see the size inserted/comfortable and diameter info

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[EmDotRand]

Any 3d people in the thread? I'm making a model of Meraxis and I'd like feedback.

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[STOPS]

It's a catch 22. The subscribers this game needs don't want to support it it because it's not in a good position, and the game isn't in a good position because it doesn't have the supporters it needs. (The developer being in a bad spot is another big reason for it as well.)

Massive, throbbing necropost here, but forgive me I haven't grasped f95's notification system yet.

You have a good point, as I really just saw most of these projects as a one way street (mainly because I use Patreon as a glorified tip jar and never actually use the site), but that's not usually true. Patreon basically forcibly facilitates a relationship between the creator and its most loyal (or generous) patrons, and thus also a pretty vested interested for the creator to act on their feedback. However I was mainly responding to the most common gripe of slow development progress, which 99% of the time is a pretty black and white issue in terms of how much control a supporter has over it.

In any case, it's an uphill battle trying to affect change or have feedback heard in a situation like this, it's sadly probably easier to just put your two cents in the hat and then move on, unless you wanna fork up the $5000 a month for the Magnum XXX Golden Dildo package or w/e.

 

[DohDongOh]

how did inno manage to break the whole ui while doing bugfixes? or did someone screw up compiling 4.4.2?

 

[Michael967]

Does the game have any cheats?

 

[gokudark]

certain ui elements aren't working for me, tried reinstalling java and that did nothing, i know this is an issue with my java specifically because im also having errors in other java games such as tales of androgyny which throws an error at me when i get past the loading screen, help appreciated
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Just use java runtime environment from exe version.

In cmd start something like this `jre1.8.0_172/bin/java.exe -jar LilithsThrone_0_4_4_2.jar` . Works for me with every jar release + you do not have to have installed java on your system.

 

[CaptainBipto]

Any 3d people in the thread? I'm making a model of Meraxis and I'd like feedback.

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I am not sure what you mean by 3D people, but I can offer my personal thoughts if you like.

I would recommend that you tone down the red on her nose. It makes her look like Roudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer.
This is just my opinion and I know the drawn character has big ears, but it doesn't look quite as well on that model, I would suggest that you make them about half the size they are right now, they look a little silly to me.

Does the game have any cheats?

Type in the word BUGGY (not case sensitive) on any empty tile in the map. It gives you options to transform yourself, add money, essences, items, spawn various enemies (on alley tiles), and you can view information about any kid you have whether you have met them or not.

 

[Shorsey]

Any 3d people in the thread? I'm making a model of Meraxis and I'd like feedback.

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I'm a 2D being, sorry.

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[tehlemon]

how did inno manage to break the whole ui while doing bugfixes? or did someone screw up compiling 4.4.2?

Well, it works kinda like this...

First, take a few months off to fuck around and play video games. You don't want to do the small amount of writing that you need to do, so lets do something else.

Then after a long ass delay, you come back and say things are going to be coming next week. But you don't feel like it, so you delay another week and say you have covid. No one's going to question covid, even if you do apparently have it bad enough that you can't work but it still magically goes away in less than a week leaving you with only a cough.

But then you have to finally put something out. But not the writing you don't want to do, fuck that.

So you go through your change requests. Some of the descriptions look neat, so you add them. But the change log is still too short for three months of work, so you start adding a few extra. Still too short, add a few more. Oh but now we don't have time to test everything, assuming we bothered doing boring testing anyways.

Eh fuck it. You got away with releasing a major multi-year long huge release without any of the content, lets just put this out. The slaves will fix the bug next week and we'll have something else to post without having to do that writing we hate.

The important part is that the writing got put off again. Maybe next year.

 

[Airell]

Well, it works kinda like this...

First, take a few months off to fuck around and play video games. You don't want to do the small amount of writing that you need to do, so lets do something else.

Then after a long ass delay, you come back and say things are going to be coming next week. But you don't feel like it, so you delay another week and say you have covid. No one's going to question covid, even if you do apparently have it bad enough that you can't work but it still magically goes away in less than a week leaving you with only a cough.

But then you have to finally put something out. But not the writing you don't want to do, fuck that.

So you go through your change requests. Some of the descriptions look neat, so you add them. But the change log is still too short for three months of work, so you start adding a few extra. Still too short, add a few more. Oh but now we don't have time to test everything, assuming we bothered doing boring testing anyways.

Eh fuck it. You got away with releasing a major multi-year long huge release without any of the content, lets just put this out. The slaves will fix the bug next week and we'll have something else to post without having to do that writing we hate.

The important part is that the writing got put off again. Maybe next year.

Sorry but that's a weird to see people stating that she doesn't like to write... Writing is the basics of creating a text game. You need to love writing, creating stories, worlds and characters, or you'll just get burned.

For me, I can't imagine creating a text-game with intresting story and do a good job at the long-run without loving writing.

I'm not defending the dev, just saying that if she doesn't like writing, she might have chosen the wrong path.

 

[EmDotRand]

I would recommend that you tone down the red on her nose. It makes her look like Roudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer.
This is just my opinion and I know the drawn character has big ears, but it doesn't look quite as well on that model, I would suggest that you make them about half the size they are right now, they look a little silly to me.

Yeah... I overdid the redness on the quick texture paint. Defiantly toning it down in the final model. The sword ears too.

I'm a 2D being, sorry.

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I though about the glowing eye, but it eats so much render time for such a subtle effect. My potato can only handle so much before overheating.

 

[tehlemon]

Sorry but that's a weird to see people stating that she doesn't like to write... Writing is the basics of creating a text game. You need to love writing, creating stories, worlds and characters, or you'll just get burned.

For me, I can't imagine creating a text-game with intresting story and do a good job at the long-run without loving writing.

I'm not defending the dev, just saying that if she doesn't like writing, she might have chosen the wrong path.

If you go back through all the delays for the last few years and look at what specifically doesn't get done on time or what what the current thing that needs to be done is when a delay happens, it's always writing. Programming, mechanics, features, these all seem to get worked on normally. But the moment that we just need to knock a few scenes out, all progress halts for months.

Just look at the tavern content, for the recent example. Or the super long, constant delays while trying to fill out placeholder content for both Nyan and Helena's quests. Or the main story.

And not even like, a lot of writing. LT is pretty writing light compared to most text adventure games thanks to constantly re-using scripts. But anytime writing is the roadblock, you can expect a long delay.

 

[Shorsey]

Sorry but that's a weird to see people stating that she doesn't like to write... Writing is the basics of creating a text game. You need to love writing, creating stories, worlds and characters, or you'll just get burned.

For me, I can't imagine creating a text-game with intresting story and do a good job at the long-run without loving writing.

I'm not defending the dev, just saying that if she doesn't like writing, she might have chosen the wrong path.

Inno said she is tired of writing and burned out because she forced herself to do it.
I can't remember where she said it, was quite some time ago, but you'll probably finde some sauce for it here if you search.

 

[Airell]

If you go back through all the delays for the last few years and look at what specifically doesn't get done on time or what what the current thing that needs to be done is when a delay happens, it's always writing. Programming, mechanics, features, these all seem to get worked on normally. But the moment that we just need to knock a few scenes out, all progress halts for months.

Just look at the tavern content, for the recent example. Or the super long, constant delays while trying to fill out placeholder content for both Nyan and Helena's quests. Or the main story.

And not even like, a lot of writing. LT is pretty writing light compared to most text adventure games thanks to constantly re-using scripts. But anytime writing is the roadblock, you can expect a long delay.

Inno said she is tired of writing and burned out because she forced herself to do it.
I can't remember where she said it, was quite some time ago, but you'll probably finde some sauce for it here if you search.

So... I will consider that Innoxia doesn't like to write. In that case, there aren't many options left. You can't keep a text game like that, no matter how small the writing is. Writing will always be torture if you don't love it, and you'll always have to force yourself to do it.

What is the expected quality and productivity? Either she hires a writer for the game, or I'm sorry to say, but it's likely you guys are going to be here forever without ever getting any meaningful content.

My point of view is biased as I understand well how development works. It's not easy, and if you don't love what you do, it's simply unbearable.

Edit: She's also very lucky to have so much help with the code, and such an active modder community.

 

[Polarthief]

Well, it works kinda like this...

First, take a few months off to fuck around and play video games. You don't want to do the small amount of writing that you need to do, so lets do something else.

Then after a long ass delay, you come back and say things are going to be coming next week. But you don't feel like it, so you delay another week and say you have covid. No one's going to question covid, even if you do apparently have it bad enough that you can't work but it still magically goes away in less than a week leaving you with only a cough.

But then you have to finally put something out. But not the writing you don't want to do, fuck that.

So you go through your change requests. Some of the descriptions look neat, so you add them. But the change log is still too short for three months of work, so you start adding a few extra. Still too short, add a few more. Oh but now we don't have time to test everything, assuming we bothered doing boring testing anyways.

Eh fuck it. You got away with releasing a major multi-year long huge release without any of the content, lets just put this out. The slaves will fix the bug next week and we'll have something else to post without having to do that writing we hate.

The important part is that the writing got put off again. Maybe next year.

My god, you just won the thread with this post. Well done.

Sorry but that's a weird to see people stating that she doesn't like to write... Writing is the basics of creating a text game. You need to love writing, creating stories, worlds and characters, or you'll just get burned.

For me, I can't imagine creating a text-game with intresting story and do a good job at the long-run without loving writing.

I'm not defending the dev, just saying that if she doesn't like writing, she might have chosen the wrong path.

She liked it at some point and then decided to stop giving a fuck once the full time job bucks rolled in, and for some reason, the simps just keep giving her money because they're fucking stupid.

What is the expected quality and productivity? Either she hires a writer for the game, or I'm sorry to say, but it's likely you guys are going to be here forever without ever getting any meaningful content.

I mean, it's literally been over a year (closer to 2 years) since we got any meaningful content. At this point we can consider the project all-but-abandoned-yet-still-being-"worked-on"-and-overpaid-for.

My point of view is biased as I understand well how development works. It's not easy, and if you don't love what you do, it's simply unbearable.

She's making over $7,000 a MONTH to have done virtually nothing in the last 2 years. That's $168,000 she was paid to do maybe a week's worth of actual work. There's literally no excuse. The game's just a front for her to pretend she's actually doing something, when in reality, she's living off the simps throwing money at her to do nothing.

PS: That 168k is a very lowballed number too because I know it's higher than 7k, but I'm too annoyed/lazy to go check how much the game is making now.

 

[Shorsey]

Either she hires a writer for the game,

She refuses to do that. Officially, she doesn't want anyone screwing up her world building.
Personally i think, considering her general attitude and discord massages, it's more of a pride thing. She hates the thought of someone doing a better job at writing than her.

or I'm sorry to say, but it's likely you guys are going to be here forever without ever getting any meaningful content.

I'd say 90% of people here don't expect this to be ever finished. Just glance over the last 40 or so posts and you'll get a general idea of mosts people attidude towards Inno and the game.
And there are of course a lot of people who are just here for the running joke about her constant delays or posts like "i stubbed my toe, can't work for 3 months.
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Edit: She's also very lucky to have so much help with the code, and such an active modder community.

That's sadly all this game is nowadays. Let others do the work, be lazy and let them stuff their money down your throat.