Java Lilith's Throne [v0.4.11.3 Hotfix] [Innoxia]

[CaptainBipto]

"Balanced the flame value calculations for enchanted items, clothing and weapons. (PR#1695 by Maxis010)"

Please PLEASE tell me this didn't make enchanting fluids for quick-cash a useless strategy same way they just destroyed the Milk Machine in previous "update."

The value of those potions did get nerfed, but not by that much. I could make a +2 cum storage potion and sell it for about 440 flames and on the latest version, I think it sells for about 340. It did get nerfed, but not as badly as the change to the slave milking.
Just wait though, I get the feeling that it will get nerfed at some point.
If you get 3 water spells, all fluid enchantments cost 0 esessences to craft. I can create a single potion with 100 +2 storage enhancements, SAVE THE RECIPE, then craft as many as I want with very little effort and earn about 3.5k flames per potion.
It's a bit of a click fest, but with a little effort, you can buy all of the cheap TF potions, load a recipe and create enough (100 +2 cum storage enchantment) potions to walk away from Ralph, about 600K flames (a day) richer.

I'm running a bunch of mods, so it's probably that, but on the off chance - is anyone else having the issue where loading a game wipes all the generated NPCs from the map, including children and slaves?

I have run into this same issue on the latest version of the game. I am pretty sure that my issue is the same as yours, I have spent too much time adding and removing mods that my saves are completely borked on the the current version. If I extract the game to a new folder and start a new character (with no mods), the game plays just fine.

 

[Deleted member 1216262]

Can't believe Inno updated the main quest again instead of adding Schweppes™ flavored cum and tardigrade morphs like everyone has been requesting for months now...

She's probably going to add Candy Corn flavor or something as the Halloween Update, maybe even a Imp in a ghost costume that has his dick in the basket of candy.

 

[sojocal]

The value of those potions did get nerfed, but not by that much. I could make a +2 cum storage potion and sell it for about 440 flames and on the latest version, I think it sells for about 340. It did get nerfed, but not as badly as the change to the slave milking.
Just wait though, I get the feeling that it will get nerfed at some point.
If you get 3 water spells, all fluid enchantments cost 0 esessences to craft. I can create a single potion with 100 +2 storage enhancements, SAVE THE RECIPE, then craft as many as I want with very little effort and earn about 3.5k flames per potion.
It's a bit of a click fest, but with a little effort, you can buy all of the cheap TF potions, load a recipe and create enough (100 +2 cum storage enchantment) potions to walk away from Ralph, about 600K flames (a day) richer.

I think if she didn't want to rewrite entirely how this work, the only path forward might be just make it trigger an event.
You sell 50 potions, and you crash the market.As the market crashes your potions are worthless but also every demon that was enchanting potions suddenly wonder why their business is in the gutter.

Just a random mussing, not a suggestion.

 

[Simp Cattu]

You sell 50 potions, and you crash the market. As the market crashes your potions are worthless but also every demon that was enchanting potions suddenly wonder why their business is in the gutter.

I beg you, please don't give Inno more ideas. Implementing an actual economy system? That sounds like a few decades of work for me doug.

 

[CaptainBipto]

I think if she didn't want to rewrite entirely how this work, the only path forward might be just make it trigger an event.
You sell 50 potions, and you crash the market.As the market crashes your potions are worthless but also every demon that was enchanting potions suddenly wonder why their business is in the gutter.

Just a random mussing, not a suggestion.

Inno can just limit the cash available to each vendor, instead of giving them endless cash reserves, they have a set amount for each day, something like 100 - 200 thousand flames. It could be that the vendors need time to resell the items they bought.
Inno could set a 1% reduction in value for each crafted potion that the player sells, with the reduction value decaying by 10-20% per day. It could simulate the vendors needing time to sell off the crap they are buying from the player.
Inno could set a limit on the number of crafted potions or enchanted gear that a player can sell per day. The reason being that the vendors can only handle reselling so much gear per day.
Inno could set a cap on the number of slaves that can be captured and sold each day, to reflect the time needed to sell off the current slaves you captured and sold.
Inno could put a cap on the amount of milk purchased by 'the market' before it gained you zero flames. Inno could have set a reducing value on milk/cum prices based on how much you are producing each day.

There are things Inno could do to alter the flow of cash into a player's game, without smashing the selling price of things into the ground. Any of them would suck, but it still wouldn't be as bad as just hammering the resell prices into the dirt.

 

[chichong]

... just a question, guys. Seriously, you need money to buy... what? Is there something in the game (besides the SPA) that's so damn expensive you have to grind for money? Am I missing something here?

 

[ebonheart2319]

... just a question, guys. Seriously, you need money to buy... what? Is there something in the game (besides the SPA) that's so damn expensive you have to grind for money? Am I missing something here?

Your argument has merit.
Inno has failed miserably to add anything of high value or luxury to the game in the last 3 years.
The Player home is still missing, and with it the rest of the Spa-like modules.

Counterpoint.
What is the point of trying to balance the economy if there is no economy?

 

[Deleted member 1216262]

Is there a way to disable the tooltips?
Currently having some issues with it not disappearing after a little while on jar and exe.

 

[NotSomeone]

... just a question, guys. Seriously, you need money to buy... what? Is there something in the game (besides the SPA) that's so damn expensive you have to grind for money? Am I missing something here?

Theres some people in the new city you need to pay around 100k and 50k to fuck or smth
And I guess that's it?

 

[SpellsOfErotica]

Most of these issues should now be fixed in the

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. Let me know if attribute editing still doesn't work for you.

Sorry to bother you, my saves wont load from a certain character and I don't know why. They loaded for test characters but not for others.

 

[GammaXai]

... just a question, guys. Seriously, you need money to buy... what? Is there something in the game (besides the SPA) that's so damn expensive you have to grind for money? Am I missing something here?

Some of the mod clothing was obscenely expensive and I thought some of the tatoos were as well but I haven't played in forever.

 

[Exiua]

Sorry to bother you, my saves wont load from a certain character and I don't know why. They loaded for test characters but not for others.

If your save was created for a version of the game before v0.4.6.3 (it could be a few versions earlier than that since I don't exactly know when the changes were implemented), it could be because the format of some values in the save was completely changes and I forgot to add backwards compatibility to my save editor.

If you send me a copy of your save file, I can try to fix the issue in the next version of the editor. Or you can try loading that save in the latest version of the game and re-saving, which should fix the save format of that save file (you may want to backup your save file just in case).

 

[Draupnir7]

So how are things going? Has content finally been added to the outside world?

Some. There's a town out in the sticks now, some story content in the town, some raiders you can encounter in the fields... Groundwork for the next daughter, I think? I'm holding off on updating until some current issues have been sorted out.

 

[Carl0sDanger]

The bigger question is, how hard would it be for someone else to recreate this game like with yandere simulator?

Probably not that hard technically speaking, particularly given that Inno has provided such an exhaustive list of things not to do. I'd say that anyone looking to make a similar game would be massively slashing the number of options available, but even so, it would still be a lot of writing. It's a big project.

LT has survived as long as it has because, while Inno doesn't seem to want to write the thing, no one else wants to write their own.

 

[SpellsOfErotica]

If your save was created for a version of the game before v0.4.6.3 (it could be a few versions earlier than that since I don't exactly know when the changes were implemented), it could be because the format of some values in the save was completely changes and I forgot to add backwards compatibility to my save editor.

If you send me a copy of your save file, I can try to fix the issue in the next version of the editor. Or you can try loading that save in the latest version of the game and re-saving, which should fix the save format of that save file (you may want to backup your save file just in case).

I just started playing on v0.4.6.3, this save hasn't touched anything earlier. It's just this characters saves so I'm unsure if me messing with exp and money messed anything up or not but like i said I just started playing this game so everything is up to date.

 

[anubis1970]

Theres some people in the new city you need to pay around 100k and 50k to fuck or smth
And I guess that's it?

But then why would you bother to grind money for that when you can go to the night club and find a hook-up for free?

 

[BobCarter]

She's probably going to add Candy Corn flavor or something as the Halloween Update, maybe even a Imp in a ghost costume that has his dick in the basket of candy.

No, no, no, clearly they will add a Pump-kin Pumper with custom race that pumps you full of addictive pumpkin spiced latté of cum and have pumpkin spice lattés made from their breasts and crouch breasts.

 

[BobCarter]

... just a question, guys. Seriously, you need money to buy... what? Is there something in the game (besides the SPA) that's so damn expensive you have to grind for money? Am I missing something here?

Lets see you need some money to buy all your potions as that is the intended way to play the game apparently. (at least the discord said that) you need money for your spell tomes, they cost a fair bit early on, and even a melee guy is expected to have a Elemental and the like spells. (I know, it's annoying but it's intended) Other then those I guess you might want to import an OC or 20, told those and custom slaves cost a shit ton.

 

[BobCarter]

The bigger question is, how hard would it be for someone else to recreate this game like with yandere simulator?

Ignore what most people here seem to think, there is a reason no one has done this. Doing so require a fair level of knowledge with Java, a very hated programing language. And yes it could be made using another code base, but even then I wouldn't hold my breath. Still few people were able to actually even try to recreate CoC1 and that was in flash (something with a lot more people involved with), and this game is far more complex technically speaking then CoC1.

After all if anyone does manage to do so, they can easily be making over 5 grand USD a month, for the rest of their life, largely doing nothing but maybe doing mod support. A 60k annual expected salary is still a lot in most the world after all.

 

[Exiua]

I just started playing on v0.4.6.3, this save hasn't touched anything earlier. It's just this characters saves so I'm unsure if me messing with exp and money messed anything up or not but like i said I just started playing this game so everything is up to date.

This should now be fixed in the

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. There wasn't anything wrong with your save, I just messed up when parsing the month value and ended up having an off-by-one error that crashed the editor internally.