Java Lilith's Throne [v0.4.11.3 Hotfix] [Innoxia]
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srg91
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So what we'll probably see is late September for the preview and Q4 2024 for the next full release.
BobCarter
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Just use exe. Honestly at this point there is no point for the jars being posted.
Wolfdragon20
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q4 24? that's optimistic. my money's on q3 25So what we'll probably see is late September for the preview and Q4 2024 for the next full release.
So, late to the party but just discovered this game. Seems like one of those games stuck in the eternal dev cycle, but does anyone know if there are plans to make fetishes and lust more impactful? Right now it seems like it's all just flavor fluff, you can have your lust maxed out and close to orgasm, with say, the buttslut perk as you're getting fucked in the ass, and you can still try to beg them to stop or resist, it feels like fetishes or lust, for the player, don't really do anything. I know there's options that are more corruptive that open up due to the fetishes, but you'd still have to actively choose to do those things, which is fine if you want to play as a slut, but if you want to play a more naive or pure character that gets corrupted into a slut, it's not really possible.
EmDotRand
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NGL the new art for the demon Lieutenants looks dope. Can finally get rid of my placeholders.
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BobCarter
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I liked the new art for them. At this rate every non-generic npc will have art work for them, before the next chapter for the main story comes out. So in a year or two you think the next city after Amazonia is going to be the Under Water one or the Swamp? I guess they could skip to the volcano one on the map, but that feels out of order. Don't JRPG's typically go Forest, Swamp, Water, then Lava?
GammaXai
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It is all on the back burner.
Teasing: there was a combat system overhaul a year or two back that was supposed to make different combat styles more viable but it didn't.
Fetishes: there was a sex engine tweak around the same time that was supposed to make fetishes more prominent in sex weighting but didn't.
When I was discussing Lust I meant more on its effects on the player, both in combat and during sex scenes. With high enough lust, you apparently "can't think about anything other than sex", and same for high arousal. You could be at 100 Lust and 99 Arousal, and your options don't change. I realize in recent years there's been a huge push against non-con stuff, particularly in this sphere, but in any game that features corruption, there should be times where said corruption takes control away from the player in the process of corrupting them. To use an example, Karryn's Prison, where in certain situations the masturbation menu will come up during combat. Yes, you can force yourself to not masturbate, but the fact that it comes up at all is what I'm getting at. Another example would be Trapquest, where your character chooses to submit instead of resisting based on if they're too horny, or in too much pain, or too submissive, or too slutty, etc.
The game feels like it's seriously lacking this, and maybe it's because I haven't played long enough to progress corruption too high, maybe things will change later, but at the moment it just opens up new options, but doesn't restrict your old ones. Like, why feature corruption as a mechanic at all if the only way for your character to become more corrupt is to actively choose to make them act like a slut. There's no flavor or mechanical difference between them getting "corrupted" and starting out as a slut if you as a player have to make them act like a slut to be corrupted. Their actions will be slutty from the start in either case. The whole point of corruption is that it is forced onto the character and they, their thoughts, and their actions are changed because of it, but it has to be a forced thing, if it's by choice, then the character was already slutty to begin with, so there's no actual change, y'know?
Which is why it's so unfortunate, cause this game really is very good, but it's missing that really key point and since it's stuck in development hell, it's a real shame that it likely will never truly shine the way it should.
anubis1970
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As wonderful as that type of combat event would be, sadly it's far beyond Inno's skill to deliver.
BobCarter
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Fairly sure even in that case you actually need to rebuild it from github to get it to actually work. Honestly you might be better off with proton emulation or something.Linux
We already have this functionality in the game, way at the beginning with Brax in the Enforcer's HQ, where the option to lie to him isn't selectable without the Observant perk, or in how more sex actions are available for selection as your corruption rises. Just have some other actions be restricted based on lust, arousal, corruption or fetishes. Not letting the player select resist when they're on the brink of orgasm, for example, or if they have a fetish for giving blowjobs, when they have a dick in their mouth they can't take any actions that would enter the resist stance, things like that. High enough corruption disabling "beg to stop", or even disabling the resist stance entirely, that sort of thing.
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I tried using Wine for the exe version and it was so busted as to be unplayable. Missing images, constant failiure to parse dialogue, even worse lag spikes, and the like.
The whole game suffers from a syndrome of being wide as an ocean, deep as a puddle. You can gather every fetish in the game and still be at 0 corruption with the only consequence being slightly more vulnerability to lust. Addictions are non-consequential since Ralph sell the cure in bulk and every random imp happens to carry a bottle. In the games own words, sealing enchantments are a minor inconvenience. Several races are functionally identical to each other. The more unique races usually have abilities that are either useless or out shined by other options.
That said, it might be possible to add more challenge and consequence to the game, but at the risk of alienating the casuals who pay for this venture. Not to mention that everyone who could impliment it without tanking performance either want a cut of the 7k a month Inno gets (understandable) or are banned from the Discord channel. Both in some cases.
So, tried the game out and don't really get what people like in it. Like I loved coc and tits but this feels really shallow. Like the sex is just there. Like you can do a lot but everything feels the same no matter with who you interact with. Combat is really simple and selling stuff is just a pain. I get the idea and it has great building blocks but feel like we are missing a lot to make a good game.
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Yeah, that is the issue with a game with randomly-generated NPCs. CoC/TiTS have scenes written for characters, LT has scenes written for a load of dice rolls. CoC/TiTS' scenes are comparatively well-written, but you are locked down to whatever the scenes are that have been written for that character.
The appreciation for Lilith's Throne comes in the ability to create a bevy of characters suited specifically to your own tastes, from appearance to fetishes. Apply a little mental elbow grease (because Inno will not apply the real stuff) and you can sort of paint over the boiler-plate sex scene descriptions to appeal to what you are after in the moment, aided a little by the description in-game.
If it feels like a lot is missing, that's because it is! The main thing missing is overall progress. A lot of overall progress. The problem at this point, outlined perfectly by Inno herself time and time again, is in deciding what is actually needed in the game.
GammaXai
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The appeal was the sex engine, it has worked better in the past or at least had some more potential back then.
The engine and the possible shenanigans you could do with the slave/management system on the long run too...but numbers hard, work hard, inno soft.