Java Lilith's Throne [v0.4.11.3 Hotfix] [Innoxia]

[Carl0sDanger]

You do realize you can turn off all furry spawn in the setting right?

That's not what Chemicalvamp's problem is. They apparently want "trad fantasy" races (elves and dwarves and shit) rather than the furry content currently in the game. And that's a hard "no".

The story of the game does not support a Shadowrun-esque return to the world of Tolkien's special little snowflakes. Conversely, furries are baked into the lore of the game.

Sorry, CV. You're playing a furry game. The sole dev of which is already under the gun for how slowly she's been expanding the basic story. I honestly don't think you're going to get much support from Inno or the general commulity for your idea of changing the game's central conceit

 

[SordidDreams]

The story of the game does not support a Shadowrun-esque return to the world of Tolkien's special little snowflakes. Conversely, furries are baked into the lore of the game.

Eh... I don't know about that. The explanation we're given is that the furries exist because the broken megaspell pulled some influence from human culture and mythology when reshaping the world. You could replace furries with elves and dwarves and not even change a word in that explanation. It's not like LT lore is especially robust or anything, the explanation for anything and everything is basically "because magic magic magic, magic magic". You can use that to justify anything you want.

 

[Chingonerio]

Eh... I don't know about that. The explanation we're given is that the furries exist because the broken megaspell pulled some influence from human culture and mythology when reshaping the world. You could replace furries with elves and dwarves and not even change a word in that explanation. It's not like LT lore is especially robust or anything, the explanation for anything and everything is basically "because magic magic magic, magic magic". You can use that to justify anything you want.

I thought the lore actually specifically blamed the influence of the displays at the museum your aunt invited you to, actually. Which always struck me as weird, because I feel that should result in more Egyptian-deity looking canines and felines, unless I'm just not super well versed on what variety of historical artifacts depicting mythological creatures and/or deities actually exist out there. At least, I don't know if there are any historical sculptures or paintings of harpies and centaurs that you could display.

 

[slitherhence]

I thought the lore actually specifically blamed the influence of the displays at the museum your aunt invited you to, actually. Which always struck me as weird, because I feel that should result in more Egyptian-deity looking canines and felines, unless I'm just not super well versed on what variety of historical artifacts depicting mythological creatures and/or deities actually exist out there. At least, I don't know if there are any historical sculptures or paintings of harpies and centaurs that you could display.

It influenced the Big Bad who put her own spin on it. Apparently she instantly fell in love with the general idea of anthros more than specific mythological forms.

 

[Carl0sDanger]

Okay, so how do you justify partial transformations into an elf or dwarf?

Basically, you could incorporate those things into the game if changing a character into one of them was a one and done process. But because it's structured in a more piecemeal way (ie. a transformation potion has to alter a series of individual characteristics) it doesn't work IMO. It's pretty easy to see how giving a human character cat eyes makes them a lesser cat-morph, but what would be the effect of giving them dwarf eyes?

And yes, there are depictions of both harpies and centaurs on display at the British Museum.

 

[SordidDreams]

so how do you justify partial transformations into an elf or dwarf?

The same way you justify partial transformations into a dog or a cat. It's not like that's realistically plausible either, it's just a convention of the genre. Well half-elves and other mixed races are well established in fantasy settings as well, I see no reason why they couldn't be handled in exactly the same way as furries in a game like LT.

 

[Deleted member 1706148]

Thanks for the update

 

[MrCrazy123]

I kinda just wish people who didn't like the content in a game just lived with it instead of coming into threads and suggesting that a game cater to them instead of the people it currently caters too.

There are a ton of games that I'd really like if only they included furries or monster girls or w/e, but they don't and thats okay. People need games without that stuff just as much as I need games with it, so if a game isn't for you thats fine. Just move on, I get a bit irritated (irrationally I guess) when I feel like I already only have a few games that really suit my interests and people request that they be changed to be more mainstream like every other game.

 

[BackRunner]

I kinda just wish people who didn't like the content in a game just lived with it instead of coming into threads and suggesting that a game cater to them instead of the people it currently caters too

Welcome to Modern Times, where everyone wants to be catered and if they don't like it, they request to change it. And if you are unlucky, those request will turn into a rant and then into a goddamn crusade.

 

[MagnaSonic3000]

Okay, so how do you justify partial transformations into an elf or dwarf?

Demon ears basically already give you elven ears. That's all an elf form would be is pointed ears.

I kinda just wish people who didn't like the content in a game just lived with it instead of coming into threads and suggesting that a game cater to them instead of the people it currently caters too.

I don't even like furries, but there's enough customization that I've been making my own anime girls, so it's not like you're hosed if you don't like it.

 

[congamensch]

Demon ears basically already give you elven ears. That's all an elf form would be is pointed ears.

You're forgetting an extended life span, good looks, an overweening and unwarranted sense of superiority- wait, scratch that, you're right, this game already supports elves

 

[pesinafe]

Demon ears basically already give you elven ears. That's all an elf form would be is pointed ears.

Angel ears as well iirc. Used to think they were supposed to be the proxy elves of the game. I think angelic transformations are only accessible through the debug menu, though.

 

[Carl0sDanger]

As far as I'm concerned, trad fantasy races could only really be handled in a way similar to how Slimes are currently handled. That is, as a complete transformation.

But I suppose if you see an Elf as just a human with pointy ears, then the game already supports that. Regardless, Inno apparently has no interest in including the various Tolkien-persons in the game so that's that.

 

[SordidDreams]

I think angelic transformations are only accessible through the debug menu, though.

Currently yes. Used to be you could slime yourself, transform yourself into an angel-slime, then solidify yourself into an angel. That got changed and now it just reverts you back to human again.

I get a bit irritated (irrationally I guess) when I feel like I already only have a few games that really suit my interests and people request that they be changed to be more mainstream like every other game.

I agree, it's very irrational to think you'd lose anything if others gained something. I've only ever seen people asking for the addition of traditional fantasy races, I've never seen anyone asking for the removal of furries.

 

[Carl0sDanger]

How do you "solidify" yourself from slime form? I thought transforming into a slime was permanent.

 

[Amarok909]

How do you "solidify" yourself from slime form? I thought transforming into a slime was permanent.

If you go into the enchanting menu for the slime goo, the only option is "change skin type to flesh". This will change you back with all your slimy features converted to flesh. It does NOT revert you to a state before drinking the slime goo

 

[JakeGallows]

Anyone else getting lots of inventory based bugs in this version? Reloaded or flat out restarted like 6 times before giving up. Most often occurred when storing items in bedroom or enchanting.

 

[NoStepOnSnek]

Anyone else getting lots of inventory based bugs in this version? Reloaded or flat out restarted like 6 times before giving up. Most often occurred when storing items in bedroom or enchanting.

In 0.3.8.1 specifically? Because that one's supposed to fix the worst inventory bugs in the release version.

 

[JakeGallows]

In 0.3.8.1 specifically? Because that one's supposed to fix the worst inventory bugs in the release version.

*doublechecks* Yeah definitely. Actually the first inventory bugs I've had in this game, and I've been playing it awhile.

 

[Carl0sDanger]

Anyone else getting lots of inventory based bugs in this version? Reloaded or flat out restarted like 6 times before giving up. Most often occurred when storing items in bedroom or enchanting.

I was getting those "bugs". Turns out the problem was my mouse. Bought a new mouse, no more problems.

Basically, my mouse was double-clicking when I was single clicking. Which meant I was activating things like "drop all" or "take all" when I didn't mean to.