Java Lilith's Throne [v0.4.11.3 Hotfix] [Innoxia]

[IvoryOwl]

Yeah, if anything, I think Lilith's Throne gives a good crash course on what NOT to do during development. Feature creep and grandiose ambitions, left unchecked, can kill most projects before they even reach the halfway milestone during development. Keep your scope small and within your capabilities and build with the future in mind; prioritize good, lasting foundations over short-term gains.

Plan your progress and stick to it. Spontaneous development can be fun for a while, and could be done to take a "break" from rigid goals, but do too much of it and you could end up losing your original vision. Same thing could be said about accepting player suggestions: too much and you'll be doing nothing else. At that point, you're basically being paid to to work for them rather than making your own game. It can also create disparities in the quality. Last, but not least, be honest with your community!

 

[CallMeNothing]

is there a way to get certain transformation potions?

 

[throbzombie]

is there a way to get certain transformation potions?

Which ones do you want? To just get any one, you can buy a food item from the mall and enchant it. Each race has a food item specific to it and you can select which TFs you want the potion to give.

 

[throbzombie]

Yeah, if anything, I think Lilith's Throne gives a good crash course on what NOT to do during development. Feature creep and grandiose ambitions, left unchecked, can kill most projects before they even reach the halfway milestone during development. Keep your scope small and within your capabilities and build with the future in mind; prioritize good, lasting foundations over short-term gains.

Plan your progress and stick to it. Spontaneous development can be fun for a while, and could be done to take a "break" from rigid goals, but do too much of it and you could end up losing your original vision. Same thing could be said about accepting player suggestions: too much and you'll be doing nothing else. At that point, you're basically being paid to to work for them rather than making your own game. It can also create disparities in the quality. Last, but not least, be honest with your community!

I think the biggest lesson we can take away from LT is not to fly solo on a big project like this. Even having just one partner on the project can massively lighten the workload and grease the wheels of progress, as well as keep the project on track. Personally, I think Inno's stubborn refusal to work with anyone is at the root of all of LT's problems.

 

[tehlemon]

I think the biggest lesson we can take away from LT is not to fly solo on a big project like this. Even having just one partner on the project can massively lighten the workload and grease the wheels of progress, as well as keep the project on track. Personally, I think Inno's stubborn refusal to work with anyone is at the root of all of LT's problems.

IDK if we can really say that anymore. After all, the contributors are doing most of the work these days. 4.0, the biggest patch in years, was entirely contributors.

I think the real problem isn't Inno's stubborn refusal to work with anyone, it's Inno's stubborn refusal to work. But being called out is probably rather stressful, so maybe another month of is needed.

 

[throbzombie]

IDK if we can really say that anymore. After all, the contributors are doing most of the work these days. 4.0, the biggest patch in years, was entirely contributors.

Well I say "at the root" because I've perceived it the problem initially, from which all the other issues sprang. I truly believe that if Inno had accepted help to begin with, the project wouldn't be so riddled with issues and this thread would have a very different attitude towards it.

I think the real problem isn't Inno's stubborn refusal to work with anyone, it's Inno's stubborn refusal to work. But being called out is probably rather stressful, so maybe another month of is needed.

Well I don't have a crystal ball or anything, but I know from personal experience that working with motivated people can motivate you as well. I'm not taking the blame off of Inno or anything, just offering my perspective.

 

[Deleted member 3086194]

and what I call M.Y.O.S.S. (a.k.a make your own sex scene).

That's a big one that I forgot about yeah, lot of ways to control the sex scenes (unlike games like TiTS where scenes are hand written and at best a couple variables are switched to represent character specific traits).

Honestly, I'm not sure how to break to you, but all video games are bounded to integers

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It's obvious that the best systems that it's going for the game are player customization, slavery system, modding framework

It seems obvious to me too but I can't be sure if everyone else agrees.

 

[Bogojisem]

That's a big one that I forgot about yeah, lot of ways to control the sex scenes (unlike games like TiTS where scenes are hand written and at best a couple variables are switched to represent character specific traits).

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It seems obvious to me too but I can't be sure if everyone else agrees.

The only games that should be implementing a system like that are survival games or hardcore RPGS. It would be out of place in a lightweight RPG porn game like LT.

 

[anon707]

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It seems obvious to me too but I can't be sure if everyone else agrees.

Some games have this idea. in games that have implement this idea successfully they use body part damage to determine fighting capabilities and wounds. If your leg is wounded wouldnt be able to run or your stamina is cut by a lot. If your arm is wounded you wont be able to do strong/heavy attacks or use a weapon in that hand as effectively or your aim would be off. So on and so for with other body parts.

 

[Sonekt]

how add slave to the paty?

 

[anon707]

The only games that should be implementing a system like that are survival games or hardcore RPGS. It would be out of place in a lightweight RPG porn game like LT.

so LonaRPG?

 

[Deleted member 3086194]

It would be out of place in a lightweight RPG porn game like LT.

Calling one of the most complex game (customization/interactions) featured on this site a "lightweight RPG porn game" is a pretty hot take.

 

[NoStepOnSnek]

Calling one of the most complex game (customization/interactions) featured on this site a "lightweight RPG porn game" is a pretty hot take.

An accurate one, nonetheless.

 

[BaloneyAmone]

Calling one of the most complex game (customization/interactions) featured on this site a "lightweight RPG porn game" is a pretty hot take.

It's "lightweight" resource-wise (at least it should be), since it doesn't have any 3D graphics/animations.
I wouldn't see how trying to use a more accurate injury system over HP would require a significant resource demand, though.

 

[EmDotRand]

The only games that should be implementing a system like that are survival games or hardcore RPGS. It would be out of place in a lightweight RPG porn game like LT.

It worked in Degrees of Lewdity, another lightweight RPG porn game. What makes LT different?

I wanted peoples opinion on what they like about this game (or rather, what this game aims to be, it's not exactly in the best state and the direction/rate of development is just tragic) in case someone else were to make a similar game. Specifically i'm interested peoples opinion on content such as furry/scalie/animal morph, sandbox, character customization, fantasy RPG elements, handwritten/plot characters, slave/companion management and story. How much do these things mean to you. If there is anything i left out that appeals to you don't be afraid to mention that too. Also I hope i'm not derailing this thread by doing this.

Personally I really like the sandbox, customization and managment aspects of the game. I'm partial to the furry stuff, as long as it's optional. I don't like the RPG elements because tropes like leveling, infinite powerscaling and health being represented as an integer is not only overly simplistic but beyond overused. I dislike story and handwritten characters because it doesn't blend in well with the rest of the procedurally generated content, and although it's optional it seems like wasted development time.

Furry or any kind of transformation is a plus. Something about beating the game as a gaudy eldritch abomination of my own creation just feels right. I just wish there was more than just stat changes and one or two sex moves. I want to drop shit (not literally) on people's heads as a flying character or distract cat morphs with an arcane laser pointer or get acid slapped because I was dumb enough to use fire on a slime or intimidate Nyan into giving my dog/wolf character a discount instead of doing her quest. Could mod this stuff in, but most of it would be mute if enemies just hit you so hard you needed to one shot everything with lion morph + Zweihandler.

Honestly who cares about this game's story? It's an excuse plot to justify you being insanely overpowered. None of the characters are memorable, many of the more important fights can be skipped by grinding for the right perk/fetish, and in game lore is restricted to books and exposition dumps.

I don't touch the slavery system because it's shallow and other methods net you more than enough money with less effort (enchant diamond necklaces from Nyan then sell them back for 2.2 million a pop).

 

[totallybob]

Anybody know if its possible to modify or remove the storage capacity limit of bodily fluids, like milk or semen?
Asking for a friend.

The friend is me.

 

[organord]

Anybody know if its possible to modify or remove the storage capacity limit of bodily fluids, like milk or semen?
Asking for a friend.

The friend is me.

For cum there is a setting under Content Options > Bodies to disable the "Cum Regeneration" mechanic; your balls will always be considered full.
If you set cum storage and cum expulsion to their maximum values, this results in 10,000ml ejaculations every single time.
Edit: Ah, it seems that disabling Cum Regeneration automatically locks cum expulsion to 100%, regardless of the value while the setting was turned on.

There isn't a similar setting for milk, as far as I can see.
Sex actions that involve the breasts/nipples seem to have set values per action for how much milk is emitted, rather than a single "milk expulsion" stat like cum has. At a glance, the "milking" action emits 20% of your max capacity. Suckling/breastfeeding actions emit a fixed 100ml regardless of max capacity (25ml for "ongoing" suckling without directly selecting suckle again). Pinching nipples emits 10ml regardless of max capacity.
So for anything other than deliberately taking the milking action 5 times, the maximum capacity of 100,000ml for milk will last for ages. Max milk regeneration will restore 694ml/min as well, as the limit for regen is 500,000ml per day (applied per breast, unlike the capacity value which is shared).

You'll probably need a mod if you want to go over the current maximum values allowed by in-game transformations (or transforming via the debug menu, which still respects those maximums). E: See the very next comment; save editing is sufficient (use a text editor to open the xml).

That said, even if you raise the cum/milk storage capacity limits, there wouldn't be much point without also adding new descriptive text to cumflation/milking scenes. The added lines are already pretty samey whether you cumflate with 1000ml or 10,000ml so an overhaul of the existing text would probably be worthwhile as well.

 

[Plumpunikitty]

BEHOLD, THE POWER OF SAVE EDITING!

(edit: any more would just overflow back to ZERO.)

 

[organord]

Oh nice, so it's just an arbitrary limitation of the transformation UI, and not the cum capacity system itself.
That makes things easier, just text editing an xml file.

But what happens if you enter the in-game transformation menu and then back out again?
Does it try to correct the overcapped values, or are they fine unless you try to modify them directly?

 

[Plumpunikitty]

Oh nice, so it's just an arbitrary limitation of the transformation UI, and not the cum capacity system itself.
That makes things easier, just text editing an xml file.

But what happens if you enter the in-game transformation menu and then back out again?
Does it try to correct the overcapped values, or are they fine unless you try to modify them directly?

You should be fine until you try to modify values again via the in-game system, it will just reset back under the limit.
Inside the .XML file the maximum value for storage for fluid is roughly 214745999 and for regeneration 2147459999.