Java Lilith's Throne [v0.4.11.3 Hotfix] [Innoxia]

[Big Horney Bull]

I don't know if the dev is here but just played 4.05 and i really liked it.
just some minor QoL requests i saw in games before.
* Make slave outfit + rules eg if maid wear complete maid outfit (unless i changed it afterwards. Can easily be done by just applaying when assigning task
* buy oder for outfits at merchants. include your own mods to outfit. if I changed the breeder collar to include full fertility and grand incest, preg, ... fetishes. this should be included (retro active would be awesome ) offc you should have enough essenses and money available to order those and may be surplus for making the change. Collar was a bad eg. but on each of the maid outfit I've added some things too.
* easier way to get to my non preg slaves

remarks or suggestions
- could not get anyone to sleep, bath, ... with me
- offspring was sometimes born before conceiving
--- childs born from slaves should be slaves too. in order to facilitate this you should be able to make a nursery (birthing chamber is there ) AND boarding school. offspring have one week to grow and if not assigned room and profession in that time they can be set free.
- family name should reflect me as master/father something like <MC>SlavDottir (when I recognised her by assigning profession )
- a way to steer gender of offspring
- gardening profession
- more room for offspring housing will be needed
- bovine race = strictly female (half-)taur with udders , heavily lactating after 1st preg
- I found the stat preg overview not that intuitive and even not correct, some where stated preg but on encounter they were not and vice versa

- more permanent place to see the character pictures eg more to the right and left of the char sheets now (maybe option for if you have the screen real-eastate to do so (wide screens) )

and The Most difficult request : generated character pictures if none available

 

[anon707]

I don't know if the dev is here but just played 4.05 and i really liked it.
just some minor QoL requests i saw in games before.
* Make slave outfit + rules eg if maid wear complete maid outfit (unless i changed it afterwards. Can easily be done by just applaying when assigning task
* buy oder for outfits at merchants. include your own mods to outfit. if I changed the breeder collar to include full fertility and grand incest, preg, ... fetishes. this should be included (retro active would be awesome ) offc you should have enough essenses and money available to order those and may be surplus for making the change. Collar was a bad eg. but on each of the maid outfit I've added some things too.
* easier way to get to my non preg slaves

I like some of this. The rules for slaves thing was a thing I remember from station master and (when it worked) was a fantastic idea. it is so tedious to get new slaves and having to spawn in all the clothes and dyes i need for each one each and every time. hell with the whole nyan rework thing there should a thing where you make a deal Nyan to send you custom mail order stuff. it'd be a great money sink too (provided you're not doing the whole 24/7 milk slave factory route).

for other stuff, there's explanations.

the sleep and bath thing are slave job, so if you want a slave to go to bed or shower with you, they have to currently be working that job to do it. And while you could say "well what about a slave i bring as a companion" unfortunately the companion system has been discontinued in favor or adding more customization to elementals who still dont do much anyways and cant even partake in group sex. so thats out.

the offspring thing is something i have to look into but that sounds like a bug

--- childs born from slaves should be slaves too. in order to facilitate this you should be able to make a nursery (birthing chamber is there ) AND boarding school. offspring have one week to grow and if not assigned room and profession in that time they can be set free.

this cant work, as it goes against the lore of LT. LT is not like a caste system where once a slave always a slave and once a king always a king. In LT slavery is the judicial punishment for all crimes rather than a status of birth. For children to be slaves as well their crime would have to be being born to slaves which is pretty silly (not to say there isnt already silly logic in this universe). So unless there's a big lore retcon this would never happen. Even if that were to happen, you would then run into the issue every civilization has had with this kind of system, eventually the slaves will outnumber the free people and masters to a degree where the slaves can no longer be tamed, and considering Lilith's plan, thats an awful idea.

- family name should reflect me as master/father something like <MC>SlavDottir (when I recognised her by assigning profession )

Now sure what this means?

- a way to steer gender of offspring

The way spawning children works is tied directly to the game's spawning system in general. The only way to change spawn rates (in game) is to go into the furry settings and change the spawn frequencies and such as well as the masculine/feminine spawning in general.

- gardening profession

The game could do with more professions in general. The existing ones already need some nerfs and buffs.

- more room for offspring housing will be needed

If you're somehow loading each and every room with offspring, then what needs to happen before needing to expand for more room is optimizing the game, because the game cannot handle that many npcs all existing at the same time.

- bovine race = strictly female (half-)taur with udders , heavily lactating after 1st preg

My personal opinion aside (i think thats a bad idea), again, how this works is tied directly to spawning. harpies work like this but aside from them all being feminine some have vaginas and some have penises.

- I found the stat preg overview not that intuitive and even not correct, some where stated preg but on encounter they were not and vice versa

Can you elaborate on this?

You're probably gonna hate me for these last two.

- more permanent place to see the character pictures eg more to the right and left of the char sheets now (maybe option for if you have the screen real-eastate to do so (wide screens) )

and The Most difficult request : generated character pictures if none available

For the first one, that would take a UI overhaul to do.

as for the second, LMAO. i've has this conversation before in this thread so i'll keep it brief. Long story short, no, just not feasible. CoC1 already tried this with a lot LESS to work with and still couldnt keep up. You CANNOT accommodate for everything this game has to offer. You simply cant, not unless you want to be Inno's art slave and draw away at assets for the rest of your life. Mods aside, please go back into the game and look at how many species are in the game so far (still more to come by the way). See them all? Now double that with taurs for all of them. Im not done yet, now double that again with ferals (yes, this game has ferals too). Done with all that? Cool, now lets get into clothes LOL. No... just no, it can't be done. At best get someone to draw your character, cause thats the best you can hope for.

 

[Rukatzu]

I would really like if Innoxia added more smell related text to the sex scenes

 

[throbzombie]

I would really like if Innoxia added more smell related text to the sex scenes

Don't give her any more "bright" ideas, man. We just got armpit sex, for Christ's sake.

 

[StapleComm]

Don't give her any more "bright" ideas, man. We just got armpit sex, for Christ's sake.

Yeah. Those things should be left for later.
...although i do wish some things were more put together, but that besides the point

 

[crash.7ds]

Honestly, that doesn't surprise me at this point...the direction this game's been going with what's added are things I'd expect from someone suffering severe ADD/ADHD to have, so adding...that...would actually be right up LT's alley.

 

[caju]

Queefs, farts, and burping !

We need very descriptive sounds added to all sex interactions!

Please add this before adding any plots or quests!

Also, need more clothes

 

[Mathesar]

Also, need more clothes

At least most of the clothes are done by contributors rather than Innoxia.

 

[TriggerStrider1]

I have 3 question :
1- do you know if there is somewhere where I can find a complete list/walkthrough of the quests (wiki miss some of them)
2- How do I get access to Dominion Express, it happend durring my first playthrough but now, I can't find a way to get there.
3- where do I need to search for the second part of the new quest. it say I need a passworld, I just dont know where to search.
thank you in advance.

 

[StapleComm]

I have 3 question :
1- do you know if there is somewhere where I can find a complete list/walkthrough of the quests (wiki miss some of them)
2- How do I get access to Dominion Express, it happend durring my first playthrough but now, I can't find a way to get there.
3- where do I need to search for the second part of the new quest. it say I need a passworld, I just dont know where to search.
thank you in advance.

1- no clue
2- Through Helena's quest (harpy lady)
3- Just search in the area, you will find it eventually (surprised you need help with that, I keep finishing this part of the quest just by walking to the fucking slime queen)

 

[tehlemon]

I don't know if the dev is here but just played 4.05 and i really liked it.
SNIP!

Oh to be new to a game and still optimistic about it.

None of that is going to happen, sorry.

I would really like if Innoxia added more smell related text to the sex scenes

whyudothis?

Honestly, that doesn't surprise me at this point...the direction this game's been going with what's added are things I'd expect from someone suffering severe ADD/ADHD to have, so adding...that...would actually be right up LT's alley.

Oh fuck that. I'm ADHD as fuck, unmedicated, and I can still do my job and have a career.

Inno is just treating this as a cash grab, and has just realized that she might lose it. She doesn't get the easy excuse.

I have 3 question :
1- do you know if there is somewhere where I can find a complete list/walkthrough of the quests (wiki miss some of them)
2- How do I get access to Dominion Express, it happend durring my first playthrough but now, I can't find a way to get there.
3- where do I need to search for the second part of the new quest. it say I need a passworld, I just dont know where to search.
thank you in advance.

1) The wiki, although its highly incomplete
2) Helena's quest. Then it's in the same building as everything else.
3) Just... walk around? IDR

 

[StapleComm]

whyudothis?

People on this website have the weirdest fetishes.

And here I am, trying to find a game that have interactions that at least someone resembles vanilla... so I guess i am one of those people

 

[PussyPassAnon]

Seeing the last chunk of posts be nothing but optimism and sunshine/rainbow requests as if the Dev has any intention of adding meat to this game made me a bit concerned, there.

But, I'm glad I can always count on tehlemon to smack heads with reality.

Anyway, my latest mod is almost ready to be uploaded. I somehow broke something again and I have to do some cleanup. After that, I'll upload it here for criticism and commentary (and to have my coding structure laughed at, of course).

 

[tehlemon]

Seeing the last chunk of posts be nothing but optimism and sunshine/rainbow requests as if the Dev has any intention of adding meat to this game made me a bit concerned, there.

But, I'm glad I can always count on tehlemon to smack heads with reality.

Anyway, my latest mod is almost ready to be uploaded. I somehow broke something again and I have to do some cleanup. After that, I'll upload it here for criticism and commentary (and to have my coding structure laughed at, of course).

I try and be realistic. In two years there's been zero meaningful mechanical changes to the game. The only one I can think of is allowing perk points for specific trees (and I thought the perk trees were placeholders, fuck me I guess). Expecting sim updates, changes to the abysmal inventory and shop systems, or core functionality to change is pretty unrealistic right now.

The game engine and front end needs a complete overhaul before we're going to see mechanical changes. And in two years, we've only seen one system rework completed. There's a couple more that might be done soon, but its taken six months. And we have a lot left to do, not even getting into performance issues.

 

[Rukatzu]

Oh fuck that. I'm ADHD as fuck, unmedicated, and I can still do my job and have a career.

Inno is just treating this as a cash grab, and has just realized that she might lose it. She doesn't get the easy excuse.

I think comments like these might be what is slowing down the progress of the game. The mental punishment of not being able to deliver what they want and being wrongly accused because of it, getting sick because of it, not being able to work on the game as much as you might want and then not being able to deliver, and the cycle starts anew. I think if we start being more supportive and kind to Innoxia, she might be able to work on the game more and be able to live up to everyone's expectations.

But that is just my opinion, since I've been in that same cycle many times, and I'm probably gonna get a lot of shit for this.

 

[StapleComm]

I think comments like these might be what is slowing down the progress of the game. The mental punishment of not being able to deliver what they want and being wrongly accused because of it, getting sick because of it, not being able to work on the game as much as you might want and then not being able to deliver, and the cycle starts anew. I think if we start being more supportive and kind to Innoxia, she might be able to work on the game more and be able to live up to everyone's expectations.

But that is just my opinion, since I've been in that same cycle many times, and I'm probably gonna get a lot of shit for this.

I can see this being the case, but at this point seeing the amount of devs going the route of trying to get as much money for the least amount of work, I think it's likely that she does just that. But I do hope she's just not the best at coding, we have enough shitty people on this planet as is

 

[PussyPassAnon]

I think comments like these might be what is slowing down the progress of the game. The mental punishment of not being able to deliver what they want and being wrongly accused because of it, getting sick because of it, not being able to work on the game as much as you might want and then not being able to deliver, and the cycle starts anew. I think if we start being more supportive and kind to Innoxia, she might be able to work on the game more and be able to live up to everyone's expectations.

But that is just my opinion, since I've been in that same cycle many times, and I'm probably gonna get a lot of shit for this.

We already tried that. We tried it for years, before we got to this point.

It's time for honesty. It's time for criticism. You'd be naive to think that endorsing and supporting terrible habits somehow makes terrible habits go away. You don't reward bad habits.

Plus, nobody is forcing them to read this stuff. They already shut down commenting on the blog. If you're taking active measures to shut up opinions you don't like, that in itself means you're paying way too much attention to what other people think and too little attention to solving the problem.

 

[throbzombie]

I think comments like these might be what is slowing down the progress of the game. The mental punishment of not being able to deliver what they want and being wrongly accused because of it, getting sick because of it, not being able to work on the game as much as you might want and then not being able to deliver, and the cycle starts anew.

Oh, but what a tragic figure is poor, put-upon Innoxia. My tender heart oozes peanut butter.

 

[JJATH]

Problem is that she'll say there is a release date and then never release it on that day. She needs to stop doing that and then complaining that it's delayed again. Only say the release date if you are absolutely sure. It's one of the many reasons why people are pissed off with her and then they start thinking, thinking can lead to many things and one of these is that she might be delaying so she can get more cash. Who knows these days, but as with most games. I don't care.

 

[tehlemon]

I think comments like these might be what is slowing down the progress of the game. The mental punishment of not being able to deliver what they want and being wrongly accused because of it, getting sick because of it, not being able to work on the game as much as you might want and then not being able to deliver, and the cycle starts anew. I think if we start being more supportive and kind to Innoxia, she might be able to work on the game more and be able to live up to everyone's expectations.

But that is just my opinion, since I've been in that same cycle many times, and I'm probably gonna get a lot of shit for this.

I know she reads these, so maybe you're right. And that's fine, because I lost all respect for her when she released v0.4.0 without any of the promised content that was supposed to make up that milestone.

I'm also no longer bothering to walk on eggshells about it anymore.

I don't care if that's mean. v0.4.0 was a cash grab, full stop.

Oh, but what a tragic figure is poor, put-upon Innoxia. My tender heart oozes peanut butter.

Gross. I love it.

Problem is that she'll say there is a release date and then never release it on that day.

Please, that was the old meta. New meta is just ignoring everything and putting out patches regardless of whats in them, even if they break the game and require five hotfixes to make them playable so that you can claim you've put of the releases without having to actually release the content.

New meta is so sleezy not even Activision has tried it.