Java Lilith's Throne [v0.4.11.3 Hotfix] [Innoxia]

[Keizer19]

This chain lightning on the misc spells... What item gives you this spell? there's also a superbolt here.

 

[Sphere42]

This chain lightning on the misc spells... What item gives you this spell? there's also a superbolt here.

I haven't completed it yet but there's a quest to give the Lightning Globe to Arthur in order to study its secrets (supposedly destroying it in the process). Considering what that item does this likely unlocks at least the lesser chain lightning spell.

The Lightning Globe is from Claire's teleporter quest, technically optional and missable IIRC unless there's a way to get back in/get the item some other way after completing the quest.

 

[SheepPun]

All the speech variants feel like an afterthought. Not only is it just handled with a filter, but it doesn't even work most of the time. Routinely NPCs with gags or a 2 meter cock down their throat just talk normally. I'm contemplating rewriting some scenes to account for lack of speech, but having to put slight variations of the same text 2 - 4 times per text block per scene is ridiculous. All that copy and pasting add up.

I commend you with a standing ovation if you decide to do that and a coupon to some talk therapy sessions.

 

[♍VoidTraveler]

You get chain lightning and lightning bold spell from Arthur's research of the sphere yes.
But both of them are lust type damage, which.. is not ideal but may still prove useful in certain situations.

 

[Sleel]

Hey, hey, don't be so hard on western dragons, they're pretty cool!
They too can be just as intelligent and stuff, it all depends on the writer of the story they're depicted in.
Personally i like all the savage... rawness, of western/eu dragons. You can feel the power emanating from them! Mmm~
Can't imagine a dragon without wings, just feels kinda weird.

I have no use for western OR asian dragons. The only dragons I really like the look of is Anne McCaffrey's Pernese dragons. To the point I have the cover of All the Weyrs of Pern tattooed on my back.

 

[♍VoidTraveler]

To the point I have the cover of All the Weyrs of Pern tattooed on my back.

Cool, i don't need tattoos though.
Not when i am a dragon myself, if you believe Chinese horoscope.

 

[sagemon]

Can't i create octopus slaves? Or add tentacles to a demon?

 

[kht]

Can't i create octopus slaves? Or add tentacles to a demon?

Octopi aren't available at the slaver alley, but you can still find and enslave them yourself (they spawn on canal tiles), or just transform someone else by enchanting their food item (shrimp cocktail). Tentacles require octopus legs tf.

Demons currently can't have tentacles (the debug menu shows there are demonic-octopus legs already implemented, but they cannot be obtained through any normal means yet).

 

[DSGMods]

Kind of weird to see them lumped together like that as they are typically intelligent and associated with divinity (and sometimes water!) rather than the savage beasts we picture in the West. Not sure what the mythology behind the Coatl is though.

All dragons as I've written them for LT are descended from "western" dragons. Many things happened to them to make them the way they are, and they are seperate peoples now with differing cultures. It's the reason their codex entry is the longest and much of it isn't accessible in the game.

Coatl is just a Nahuatl (Aztec) word for 'serpent' or 'twin'
Coatli is means 'water serpent/serpent water'

Tbh, it's probably in reference to Quetzalcoatl if what makes you one is having "dragon" traits with feathery wings.

Yes. Initially they were all going to be called quetzalcoatl, as quetzal means "green feathered (bird)". However, I also needed a name for demonic forms, and using other mesoamerican feathered serpents seemed wrong, so coatl was left. An imperfect solution but it does make a sort of biblical sense.

Sea serpents will be their own thing.

 

[Harel]

All dragons as I've written them for LT are descended from "western" dragons. Many things happened to them to make them the way they are, and they are seperate peoples now with differing cultures. It's the reason their codex entry is the longest and much of it isn't accessible in the game.



Yes. Initially they were all going to be called quetzalcoatl, as quetzal means "green feathered (bird)". However, I also needed a name for demonic forms, and using other mesoamerican feathered serpents seemed wrong, so coatl was left. An imperfect solution but it does make a sort of biblical sense.

Sea serpents will be their own thing.

Hm. I'd presumed that the coatl was the couatl from D&D (spelled as I've just spelled it)... a feathered serpent with wings, magic and a poisonous bite. Supposed to be taken loosely from mesoamerican mythology...

 

[PerpetuallyAmiss]

Where can I find the Spicy meatballs and Grave Robbing quests?

 

[♍VoidTraveler]

Grave Robbing

In submission there is.. what was it called again... anyway there are stairs down and therein you can find the grave robbing quest. All food usually can be found in the food store.

 

[PerpetuallyAmiss]

In submission there is.. what was it called again... anyway there are stairs down and therein you can find the grave robbing quest. All food usually can be found in the food store.

Spicy Meatballs is listed as a quest on the wiki along with grave robbing but they give no details on where to find them. I'm off to find a dude in submission. Thanks mate, if you find the other or I'm off base let me know.

 

[Sphere42]

All dragons as I've written them for LT are descended from "western" dragons. Many things happened to them to make them the way they are, and they are seperate peoples now with differing cultures. It's the reason their codex entry is the longest and much of it isn't accessible in the game.

I was talking about the out-of-game creation process, since reality-warping magic is well established in-universe I have no issue with appearances and cultures following different rules there.

Races sure are a disjointed mess though. The continuing introduction of random-ass dog breeds suggests they're intended as more of a cosmetic choice, but then you get the ones such as gryphons, yokai or dragons who grant an absurd amount of stats nothing else in the game can really compete with. Oh and the uncounterable alternate victory constriction/webbing moves, those are "fun"...

 

[♍VoidTraveler]

Spicy Meatballs is listed as a quest on the wiki along with grave robbing but they give no details on where to find them. I'm off to find a dude in submission. Thanks mate, if you find the other or I'm off base let me know.

I don't think i recall any spicy meatball quests.
Maybe in the other town or something.

 

[Sphere42]

Spicy Meatballs is listed as a quest on the wiki along with grave robbing but they give no details on where to find them. I'm off to find a dude in submission. Thanks mate, if you find the other or I'm off base let me know.

That is when you need to turn to searching the git repository I'm afraid. Thankfully "meatballs" is quite specific and switching over to the next keyword gives immediate results:

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[♍VoidTraveler]

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Ah right i remember now, automatically begins after you complete grave robbing.
Check the rat in the gambling den, she will sort that out for you.

 

[DSGMods]

I was talking about the out-of-game creation process, since reality-warping magic is well established in-universe I have no issue with appearances and cultures following different rules there.

I have no grand rationale if you're speaking to the technical aspects. I found a chart of dragon morphologies and decided to see how far I could push the framework.

Races sure are a disjointed mess though. The continuing introduction of random-ass dog breeds suggests they're intended as more of a cosmetic choice, but then you get the ones such as gryphons, yokai or dragons who grant an absurd amount of stats nothing else in the game can really compete with.

If you're referring to samoyeds, that was needed as Felicia's writer wanted her to be one so I obliged. I know there is little tolerance for more races right now, so NPC need is the only thing that will drive additions, at least from me. The early introduction of mythlogicals in this way was probably a mistake on my part, yes, but it also revealed some serious bugs.

I can only speak to the races I am responsible for, but balance-wise, I used a rather primitive point total for stats in order to scale the new races to the existing ones. It seemed to work well enough at the time, however it assigned the same utility value to all stats. I am working on a more advanced 2D table with tiers under evaluation.

 

[Sphere42]

I have no grand rationale if you're speaking to the technical aspects. I found a chart of dragon morphologies and decided to see how far I could push the framework.


If you're referring to samoyeds, that was needed as Felicia's writer wanted her to be one so I obliged. I know there is little tolerance for more races right now, so NPC need is the only thing that will drive additions, at least from me. The early introduction of mythlogicals in this way was probably a mistake on my part, yes, but it also revealed some serious bugs.

I can only speak to the races I am responsible for, but balance-wise, I used a rather primitive point total for stats in order to scale the new races to the existing ones. It seemed to work well enough at the time, however it assigned the same utility value to all stats. I am working on a more advanced 2D table with tiers under evaluation.

I wasn't criticising you specifically, at least not knowingly. Yokai are stupidly overpowered as well, as are phoenix harpies and some predator species in Dominion compared to the "typical" townsfolk.

Your third paragraph confuses me though, because stat totals are exactly what is wrong with these races. Mythologicals get between 200 and 300 stat points IIRC, some predators get over 50, some pets more like 5. Squirrels get a laughable ONE SINGLE stat point!

Enemies do need to get stronger over time, but that is what gear and levels are for. Increasing stats via races (without level scaling a homogenised budget) will lead to either railroading of player identity as every non-Yokai/dragon form becomes worthless or massive race bloat as every one of them gets mythological variants with higher stat tiers.

And currently the stat-strong races get good unique moves too. Or at least good for NPCs, alternate-loss immob is uncounterable but too slow to be worth using as the player.

 

[SquidOverlord]

hah... I give up. even with increase virility or her increase fertility (even reach 100%), still won't get pregnant.
thanks for trying to help.

Check the permissions you have set on your slaves, if you have, Initiate Sex, Sex Toy, Breeding Bitch, and/or Slave stud active the slaves will have sex with other slaves and become pregnant from them