Java Lilith's Throne [v0.4.11.3 Hotfix] [Innoxia]

[NoStepOnSnek]

i'll admit i'm curious about the whole 'feral' thing. can somebody concisely explain what exactly being 'feral' is supposed to do? because i have an idea but i dont like not knowing and finding any information about this game's races and systems is like pulling teeth.

i say this because, as a perosn who plays a spider-morph quite a lot - and more often than not a drider - when i fully transform my lower half into a spider body...does that count as what the feral thing is supposed to be? or is feral something more, like a full transformation into that specific race? like, spider-morphs are just humanoid spiders, spider-taurs are driders, i guess, but is feral a full spider transformation or something else?

Yes, a feral spider-morph would literally just be a (big) spider.

 

[fudejoranek]

i'll admit i'm curious about the whole 'feral' thing. can somebody concisely explain what exactly being 'feral' is supposed to do? because i have an idea but i dont like not knowing and finding any information about this game's races and systems is like pulling teeth.

You lose your arms, unless you had arm-wings, and non-udder breasts.
Ferals still have human intelligence, but cannot talk (they still talk when feral is applied illegitimately)

In-universe Feral is supposed to be a temporary state that you cannot transform into or out of, but when exposed to a beast stone you get the effect depending on how long you were exposed. People in feral form are taboo because there was a history of ferals being big on rape, even through you can't walk two steps in the game without someone trying it anyway.

There is also the fact that there are specific ferality rules for breeding in the game, suggesting that there is at least a genetic way to be feral. (the female gives their ferality status to the child, feral males make children the most furry possible for their species)

 

[PussyPassAnon]

i have a couple i'm surprised so few people have asked for:
- Chimera morphs
- mermaids
- sirens?
- Elves
- subspecies being light/dark. typical fantasy shit i guess. also fits with mythology.
- dwarves - fits with mythology as well.
- Bees/wasps - for more ovipositor content i guess
- maybe hornet subspecies?
- Ant morphs
- Moth morphs
- butterfly morph subspecies?
- Kobold
- Toads
- Frog subspecies?
- Slug/snail morphs
- Goblin
- Manticore morphs
- Sphynx morphs
- mole morphs
- scorpion morphs
- Youko morph to finally be added because hot damn have we been waiting
fitting with the Japanese theme of Youko - Inno's replacement for kitsune i'll bet - here's a few that could be added to fit with the theme.
- Oni
- Yuki-Onna - standard human looks but with arms, legs, or any part really, replaced with elemental ice.
- Tengu - subspecies of harpy?
- Genbu
- Tanuki - how tf hasn't this been added yet with raccoon-morphs and shit like wtf inno come on-
- Akugyo/Amubie - basically a mermaid species.
- Jorogumo - i know there's basically one in the game already with Yui in Ellis but maybe something more accessible?

Humanoids like elves are rejected on some basis like, "Human with long ears, human with chubby body" and so forth. I don't know what was specifically stated, but it's something along that.

I don't think urban legends are on the table, either. Those would see an equivalent species, like yukionna becoming a race of frost fairies or something, if I had to guess. Again, not 100%. Youko makes some sense because it's basically just a mystic fox spirit. We already have foxes, just add magic.

I'd love to see sirens, but this game is clogged with enough races and I can just do it myself. I scrapped my project to design owl-harpies, on basis of racial-clogging, until I can give them a meaningful existence beyond "different color feathers, thicker wings, kooky necks, and bigger eyes."

 

[anubis1970]

I'm curious to know if the code from AceXP actually does what is claimed, and reduces the massive lag when you have large numbers of unmet offspring. Can anyone confirm?

 

[Gogeta458]

Anyone got update yet files yet?

 

[Duarchy]

The game still mentions lips instead of a beak, just like with gryphons, who are feral compatible, but I suppose this is just a limitation, as keeping track of that is a pain and would limit most mouth actions.
Edit: The code says that gryphons and raptors have beaks, its just that the game does not check for it in all cases. Maybe Inno will address it soon since the raptor was her idea, while the gryphon is technically a mod that was added to the source code.


They have, we have mods that add feral clothing, ferals to the encounter table and a feral transformative (its just a toggle without transformation text) as well as races that are feral by default. The only thing missing is having characters that were written to be ferals, but the modding support is too shite for something that ambitious.

Oh? I scrolled through that google doc and didn't see anything. I'll look again.

 

[fudejoranek]

Oh? I scrolled through that google doc and didn't see anything. I'll look again.

I don't know about a google doc, as far as I know the most complete list is the discord mod channel, sadly discord searching isn't that good, so I tend to just filter by the mod channel and search for one keyword.

There have been multiple attempts to get the mods into a more convenient format, but because none of the attempts were officially endorsed by Inno, not all mods from the mod channel get uploaded there.

 

[IvoryOwl]

i'll admit i'm curious about the whole 'feral' thing. can somebody concisely explain what exactly being 'feral' is supposed to do?

Ferals are this game's take on bestiality... with a twist. Ferals are basically animals appearance-wise but smarter. Might not be the best/most accurate description but it sort of reminds me of familiars, the kind that hang out with witches and help/guide them.

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Can anyone who played the latest version report on the performace gains from this patch? It was supposed to fix the issue with having a ton of (unmet) offspring about, causing lag spikes and performance drops, but I haven't played it myself yet to know... just curious.

Also, barring the need for a hotfix, Inno has announced she's off for Christmas and New Year. I know its the holiday season and all that but I just find it ironic to anounce a vacation right after all that happened. After several delays and minimal patches in a row (some of which were inflated/padded by mod contributions to look bigger/more meaningful) I guess now is the time as any to take a well-deserved rest after all that "hard work". How long did she "took off" this year now? 2-3 months? Feels like each year there's less and less being done while her breaks just grow larger or more frequent.

Were it anyone else and I'd be more understanding over having personal issues but it happens so often with Inno that I'm kind of becoming desensitized to it.

 

[PussyPassAnon]

Are we ready to accept the idea that she's just sucking money out of the system, now?

It's a blunt and direct assertion, but what else can you call this?

 

[DirtyMare88]

i'll admit i'm curious about the whole 'feral' thing.

Not sure if anyone else is masochistic enough to have seen it, but there is a "feral bad end" to Innoxia's new dairy near Elis if you keep pushing and investigating certain things. You don't actually get to play the game as a feral unfortunately, but your description changes, and it's a pretty nightmarish bad end.

Are we ready to accept the idea that she's just sucking money out of the system, now?

It's a blunt and direct assertion, but what else can you call this?

Been there for a while. It's the new WeG business model sadly

 

[IvoryOwl]

Was going to download and try the new version myself when I realized it hasn't been updated on this thread yet. Oopsie.
Too much of a lazy ass to built it myself though...

 

[moralis]

[gestures to the blog's disabled comment section] "only a few days"

And honestly, it does. Laziness doesn't exist in a bubble/vacuum. Someone who lies on the job and constantly fails deadlines with excuses usually has experience with that for other parts of their life. Don't be naive.
Disregard the above. Forgot this was LT community.

Get over yourself. It's a porn game. Does everything have to be wokeified?


"Raptors are proper bird people compared to literal birds" lmao k
But, why didn't you just make your own races?

oh. there's something wrong with your brain is why you're like that. sorry i posted

 

[Domnincubus]

There are already mods for elves, goblins and kobolds.
Fuck, there are even mods for Pokemon and Monster Hunter races.

 

[PussyPassAnon]

oh. there's something wrong with your brain is why you're like that. sorry i posted

Another one runs out of arguments and resorts to vague insults. That didn't take long. lmao
I'm just going to block the White Knights from now on. I don't have time for this nonsense.

 

[Gogeta458]

Another one runs out of arguments and resorts to vague insults. That didn't take long. lmao
I'm just going to block the White Knights from now on. I don't have time for this nonsense.

To be fair, you did sound stupid when you were complaining about "woke" stuff in regards to an actual valid complaint that many people had.

 

[PussyPassAnon]

To be fair, you did sound stupid when you were complaining about "woke" stuff in regards to an actual valid complaint that many people had.

I don't know why you looked at that response, saw that I clearly said, "I don't have time for this nonsense," and decided "Hmm, guess I'll also insult them!"

 

[SheepPun]

Fight! Fight! Fight!


Anyway, I admit, I'm actually kind of eager(?) at the idea of Bee/Ant morph support. Echoing some sentiments expressed before, LT definitely offers something that not a lot of other nsfw games offer right now. And tbh, it's kind of part of the reason I get so frustrated by it's development process. Inno has proven she can like, actually make a functional product (how well it actually functions is a different story ovbs) which is like. leagues ahead of the various 'dude just trust me' products being pitched to people.
So it makes seeing the game drop into these common development pitfalls feel all the more frustrating.

 

[PussyPassAnon]

SheepPun I understand your sentiment, which is why I took the liberty of making my own content for the game. Giving us modding support was probably the best thing that could've happened, imo. Things I want in-game are now only limited by my own time, creativity, and understanding of the code. Feels good, man.

It can be more than it currently is, but it gets the job done!

EDIT: I think I'll look into making my own maps, tomorrow. Should be fun.

 

[Gogeta458]

Fight! Fight! Fight!


Anyway, I admit, I'm actually kind of eager(?) at the idea of Bee/Ant morph support. Echoing some sentiments expressed before, LT definitely offers something that not a lot of other nsfw games offer right now. And tbh, it's kind of part of the reason I get so frustrated by it's development process. Inno has proven she can like, actually make a functional product (how well it actually functions is a different story ovbs) which is like. leagues ahead of the various 'dude just trust me' products being pitched to people.
So it makes seeing the game drop into these common development pitfalls feel all the more frustrating.

This so much. I remember during the 0.3 days, a single update added way more things compared to 0.4 updates nowadays.

 

[DietrichGRU]

Are we ready to accept the idea that she's just sucking money out of the system, now?

Credit where credit's due, Inno slowly making it into a community project while at the same time monetizing others' free contributions. Ngl, it's admirable in it's own way. Horrible and disgusting for a creator, but truly impressive for a business owner.
Maybe that milking stall money exploit was intentional in more than one way. 10/10 emergent gameplay metanarrative material right there.

Oh shit, I forgot that there was Angels involved in the early lore. I completely forgot that character exists lol

You're not the only one. It is remembered in the same way as it was remembered to add property content in 0.4.2.
Amazing how that's the case, considering that the whole plot could be summarized as: "Demons murderfucking fighting angels for the control over the human realm".