Java Lilith's Throne [v0.4.11.3 Hotfix] [Innoxia]

[H8MyselfLoathing]

Lmao, Inno didn't even fix the release target. From now on can we add a tag to all Inno's messages as "delay" I just feel like "delay" is a much better word for sorting by "all" with Inno; ya know? "Very latest my ass", I don't understand, how do people have this much of a goddamn sunk cost fallacy that they can't see that they're being played? And they have the fucking nerve to call themselves the "sole developer of Lilith's Throne", fuck off Inno.

Goddammit I love this concept, I want to see Lilith beatable before I die, I just despise Inno having us at a fucking standstill so our wallets and content run dry and Inno has made off like a bandit

 

[H8MyselfLoathing]

There has been an Update! To absolutely nobody's surprise, there's not even enough content in this update to warrent calling it 4.4, instead it's "4.3.8", it looks like Inno got too big for their britches and backpedaled! God I hope "I'm not feeling too well" means "I learned I was dropped on my head as a kid and now everything makes sense" and not "I ate bad sushi and now tummy hurt, no release for month, I need to shits sowwy patrons Uwu"

excuse me while I vomit from imitating the verbal fellatio that is Inno to their simps, or 'patrons', if you feel so inclined to call them as such

 

[BaloneyAmone]

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[H8MyselfLoathing]

Less-angry release notification

I'm not mad so much as I am disappointed.
Nah, scratch that, I'm definitely getting to the point of impatience where annoyance tips my feelings of "miffed" into "bitter"

 

[tehlemon]

At this point I assume Inno only works when she's feeling absolutely perfect and 100% in the mood. Which is pretty much the opposite of how everyone else works lol

 

[BBGunna]

At this point I assume Inno only works when she's feeling absolutely perfect and 100% in the mood. Which is pretty much the opposite of how everyone else works lol

Tbf it's easy to have a "work when you feel like it" shedule when you have suckers loyal patrons throwing thousands of dollars at you per month for work that's never on time, less than what you initially promised and partially comprised of other people's efforts. Imagine being a regular honest to goodness programmer who treats their clients like this and not only do you NOT get fired, but the same clients are praising your lack of effort and coddling you while they reach into their wallets to toss even more money at you.

It's insane but I gotta admit I respect the hustle, I just can't believe she's gotten away with it for this long.

Thats the worst part.
Its not a bad game at all, solid 8/10. Best in its class.

But the dev's blatant abuse of community goodwill is horrifying.
Stolen Content, Flaky Excuses, and Endless Delays.
I look at the changelog each month and ask "Does this look like 100 hours of work?"

If shes putting 20 hours of her own code into each patch I'll eat my shorts.

Best in its class feels like a great over statement. Sounds starry eyed for its presumed potential. Its alright.

Edit: Cuz I wanna haiku

coulda been some thing
a thousand options skin deep
where is the content

'best in class' is a definite overstatement. this game's a solid...6/10 at best. like holy shit the original CoC, a game almost ten years old and nothing but text and sprites to boot, is better than this and Fenoxxo at the time only had about a third of the contributors Inno has.

"Contributors"

i meant to write unpaid interns. that's basically what anyone contributing to this mess is.

also, imma haiku back at ya

how'd it go so wrong
six years and nothing to show
Inno what the fuck

Eh I think the game's a decent 7/10 even with all the problem and I think it's fair to say there's potential for a real "CoC killer" in here. Though it being the best of the CoC clones more speaks to how awful most of them are/were rather than how impressive LT is imo. CoC may be a decade old but in that time nobody's quite been able to capture the magic that Fennexo created and at the time it finally seemed like someone had figured it out. Most other projects in this vein either get less funding, get abandoned or were plagued with even worse technical issues right out the gate. Inno's greatest feat was fooling people for long enough into thinking she was a competent developer so she could rack up a huge audience( and a steady subscription income) from then on it's just been slowly keeping the gravy train going while doing the bare minimum(sometimes less) to keep the diehard happy so the stay pledged.


P.S: Regarding the actual game for a bit, wow is this a worthless update, I figured any main story content was never really gonna happen but for what was supposed to be such a "big update" to see it whittled down this much is just sad. I wonder if she regrets initially hyping it as much as she did....who are we kidding Inno has no regrets lol

 

[Leon_Arkwing]

Can anyone update the links? 4.3.8 is up on the blog

 

[H8MyselfLoathing]

Can anyone update the links? 4.3.8 is up on the blog

At this point honestly, with how fruitless these updates are (Inno's not gonna put out any updates with content worth torrenting), just download it there or wait. It's not even really worth it. I mean the mods will get around to it when they do, but you can just download it since it's public. If you're trying to look out for others, while I understand and appreciate the sentimate, I must offer up the counterpoint that if you need others to spoon feed you everything, you're not going to be able to; download the file, extract it (if needed, I haven't used a PC without winrar in so long), and open an executable.

 

[Leon_Arkwing]

At this point honestly, with how fruitless these updates are (Inno's not gonna put out any updates with content worth torrenting), just download it there or wait. It's not even really worth it. I mean the mods will get around to it when they do, but you can just download it since it's public. If you're trying to look out for others, while I understand and appreciate the sentimate, I must offer up the counterpoint that if you need others to spoon feed you everything, you're not going to be able to; download the file, extract it (if needed, I haven't used a PC without winrar in so long), and open an executable.

I hadn't planned on spoon-feeding anyone, i just thought it would be nice to have the page "up to date" as it were XD

 

[Dr.Feelgood]

Okay, so instead of having all four of the points promised upon a release a week after 4.4 should have been release we got... what? Updated Squirrel-Morph racial attributes, minor bug fixes, a damn long overdue bugfix for the infinite orgasm loop, a guide to the code in the root folder (holy shit, I've heard it was bad but to need a modder contributed guide to make sense of it!?!?), the exact same alley encounters from Dominion added to Ellis, and... flavor text for a one-off randomly generated book?

Did... did I read that right?

Not to rip into the modder that put in this little bit of TLC that Inno can't be bothered to add to her own game, props to whoever you are for being so dedicated to make a contribution to a slowly dying game, but... seriously? How the actual fuck is this considered a major enough contribution to warrant its own update and how the hell is FUCKING FLAVOR TEXT a more major addition to the game by a random modder than what the ACTUAL DEV pumps out in the same time frame?

I used to find the constant failures of these updates amusing, but this one is just too damn said to get any enjoyment out of it.

 

[Asia Argento]

Thats the worst part.
Its not a bad game at all, solid 8/10. Best in its class.

But the dev's blatant abuse of community goodwill is horrifying.
Stolen Content, Flaky Excuses, and Endless Delays.
I look at the changelog each month and ask "Does this look like 100 hours of work?"

If shes putting 20 hours of her own code into each patch I'll eat my shorts.

Best in class is debatable. Very good, yes. Lifeplay, TiTS, Strive for Power, Ruin Me and others all arguably are equal or better. Sad fact, very few games in this genre (hybrid games with character creation, transformation and a deep story) are actually completed. Good news is that "finish the story" finished high in a poll of Phanes (Ruin Me's dev), so that might add another finished product soon to a game library that only has S4P and CoC1 as a completed product.

Honestly, I am surprised Inno hasnt bailed. She takes alot of crap for her nonsense and just brushes it off. The only explanations arent very flattering.

 

[Tattletale21]

Best in class is debatable. Very good, yes. Lifeplay, TiTS, Strive for Power, Ruin Me and others all arguably are equal or better. Sad fact, very few games in this genre (hybrid games with character creation, transformation and a deep story) are actually completed. Good news is that "finish the story" finished high in a poll of Phanes (Ruin Me's dev), so that might add another finished product soon to a game library that only has S4P and CoC1 as a completed product.

Honestly, I am surprised Inno hasnt bailed. She takes alot of crap for her nonsense and just brushes it off. The only explanations arent very flattering.

agreed. the explanations anyone could come up with here are definitely not doing her any good and the fact that her 'reasons' for missing her own self-imposed deadlines are pitiful at best...well, she's lacking for inspiration beyond just the game, i suspect.

i dont think inno would abandon this game any time soon. her loyal little white knights keep gifting her money like she'd die without it, so she wont abandon this unless the money dries up. she is the EA of text-based porn games.

 

[Asia Argento]

agreed. the explanations anyone could come up with here are definitely not doing her any good and the fact that her 'reasons' for missing her own self-imposed deadlines are pitiful at best...well, she's lacking for inspiration beyond just the game, i suspect.

i dont think inno would abandon this game any time soon. her loyal little white knights keep gifting her money like she'd die without it, so she wont abandon this unless the money dries up. she is the EA of text-based porn games.

That's a little kind. I would have said ABK but Microsoft just bought them.

 

[CaptainBipto]

Okay, so instead of having all four of the points promised upon a release a week after 4.4 should have been release we got... what? Updated Squirrel-Morph racial attributes, minor bug fixes, a damn long overdue bugfix for the infinite orgasm loop, a guide to the code in the root folder (holy shit, I've heard it was bad but to need a modder contributed guide to make sense of it!?!?), the exact same alley encounters from Dominion added to Ellis, and... flavor text for a one-off randomly generated book?

Did... did I read that right?

Not to rip into the modder that put in this little bit of TLC that Inno can't be bothered to add to her own game, props to whoever you are for being so dedicated to make a contribution to a slowly dying game, but... seriously? How the actual fuck is this considered a major enough contribution to warrant its own update and how the hell is FUCKING FLAVOR TEXT a more major addition to the game by a random modder than what the ACTUAL DEV pumps out in the same time frame?

I used to find the constant failures of these updates amusing, but this one is just too damn said to get any enjoyment out of it.

Orange Dicks. You forgot that we can now have an orange dick in the game now.

Also, you missed the highlight of the update:
Inno is going to take a short break and hopefully will be feeling better after that.

 

[Mistik]

Goddammit I love this concept, I want to see Lilith beatable before I die, I just despise Inno having us at a fucking standstill so our wallets and content run dry and Inno has made off like a bandit

Well, Phobos did it on June 19, 2019

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Orange Dicks. You forgot that we can now have an orange dick in the game now.

Also, you missed the highlight of the update:
Inno is going to take a short break and hopefully will be feeling better after that.

And he also made a mod that adds a lot of colors to any part of the body.

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[doniwil]

a guide to the code in the root folder

It's the guide from the FAQ on discord, after it was updated because it had maybe 20 morphs before

how the hell is FUCKING FLAVOR TEXT a more major addition to the game by a random modder than what the ACTUAL DEV pumps out in the same time frame?

Contributor content can sit for months waiting to be merged, DSGs latest addition waited for 8 months after it was finished
Ace started working on dungeons in July, posted to modding in November, and it got merged this year, after he kept telling Inno to add it

Stolen Content

Can't steal what is freely given

To the "pay the contributors" posters, at least 2 of the 5 active contributors have said they don't want to be paid for their work

 

[aspar4gus]

Imagine the sheer amount of copium you'll need to constantly produce to sustain this sunk cost fallacy,

...wait, does that copium investment also count as sunk cost?

 

[Hunterxsamu]

..... sued letter waiting patiently from supporter

 

[Dagoth Urgers]

Can't steal what is freely given

To the "pay the contributors" posters, at least 2 of the 5 active contributors have said they don't want to be paid for their work

Plagiarism is still plagiarism even with permission.

 

[twont]

Did... did I read that right?

At this point, I just like checking in on the changelogs to see how little gets added. It's a meta-game that's more fun than the actual game at a certain point (I did enjoy this game a lot long ago, and if you wait a year or so between play-throughs, there's usually some interesting changes - but I wouldn't play this update-by-update).