Java Lilith's Throne [v0.4.11.3 Hotfix] [Innoxia]

[BobCarter]

Yeah I know, I hear the bitch even eats Crackers!

 

[baloneysammich]

IIRC the offspring tracker wasn't implemented last time I played. Is it functional?

Also, to what extent does the game acknowledge relationships when having sex with random offspring?

 

[Deleted member 1216262]

howso? github wont load for me atm due to some kind of domain error.

Mainly a new species has been merged by Innoxia herself, and a few bugs that were in the game for a while appear also to be dealt with finally.

 

[jfmherokiller]

Also while looking at the code I see many areas that can be greatly inhanced by not doing stuff like this

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[jfmherokiller]

if minecraft amd spiral knights can setup some kind of cut off point i think Lilith throne can too. Also do not make your own copy of built in datastructures unless it is some kind of requirement because the built in versions in many cases have engine and bytecode specific optimizations.

 

[Draupnir7]

IIRC the offspring tracker wasn't implemented last time I played. Is it functional?

Also, to what extent does the game acknowledge relationships when having sex with random offspring?

The offspring map simply summons an offspring onto your location as an encounter, so it works well enough. If you've got loads of kids, it'll bog you down a lot until the list properly loads. Also, it only goes down one generation from you. No pure grandkids.
You're both aware of who the other person is almost immediately, sooner if you use the offspring map. No happy accidents.

 

[baloneysammich]

The offspring map simply summons an offspring onto your location as an encounter, so it works well enough. If you've got loads of kids, it'll bog you down a lot until the list properly loads. Also, it only goes down one generation from you. No pure grandkids.
You're both aware of who the other person is almost immediately, sooner if you use the offspring map. No happy accidents.

Thanks for the response. So is the map not actually a map then? I was actually hoping for something more natural, where you find out where they are and try to seek them out. And also that you could randomly encounter them while traveling around or at the night club.

And what I meant by acknowledge the relationship during sex is, does the dialogue (dirty talk, etc.) or flavor text reference the relationship?

 

[Draupnir7]

Thanks for the response. So is the map not actually a map then? I was actually hoping for something more natural, where you find out where they are and try to seek them out. And also that you could randomly encounter them while traveling around or at the night club.

And what I meant by acknowledge the relationship during sex is, does the dialogue (dirty talk, etc.) or flavor text reference the relationship?

That would've been more interesting. Damn.
And I had to replay a bit to check, but largely no. No dialogue, but some of the flavor text might. I wouldn't hold my breath.

 

[Welwigo]

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In the past I think I've seen people suggest being able to buy more properties in other locations, which sounds cool in theory, but it'd probably need to reward something other than moneymaking as that'd only accelerate the problem.

Two things I've seen talked about on and off for years now is that you can't marry anybody (at least as far as I know) and you can't give your kids or friends a permanent place to stay. Only slaves stay indefinitely unless you intentionally cripple your kids'/friends' income and make them unemployed, thus incurring the cost of their rent onto your own finances, or you never invite them to live with you in the first place.

As it is I think being able to finally actually be able to buy property and turn it into a business where your friends and kids can be employed would be a major boon. Monica, the cowgirl in Elis for example, has the quest where you go and deal with a lesser succubus who bought out the farm where she worked. Being able to buy that farm out from under the succubus and run and manage it would be interesting. And there are plenty of smaller mechanics like the gambling games or the Meraxis imp hordes. Repurposing the mansion's core framework to build something like a casino or an arena would be easier than most other things and would go a long way towards giving you other stuff to do than just grind at the beginning and then rush through the rest of the game.

 

[BobCarter]

Got an interesting reaction from the discord, apparently your actually meant to cheese money and stock up on restorative items, as in that's the intended way to heal.

 

[Dr.Feelgood]

Got an interesting reaction from the discord, apparently your actually meant to cheese money and stock up on restorative items, as in that's the intended way to heal.

So... the standard RPG method? I wonder how long until cheese wheels become a healing item meant to be eaten a dozen at a time and decorative dragon claw keys are added. Seems more likely we will see this than the third Elder Lillin at this rate.

 

[Draupnir7]

So... the standard RPG method? I wonder how long until cheese wheels become a healing item meant to be eaten a dozen at a time and decorative dragon claw keys are added. Seems more likely we will see this than the third Elder Lillin at this rate.

I mean, isn't one of the daughters already meant to be a dragon?

 

[jfmherokiller]

So... the standard RPG method? I wonder how long until cheese wheels become a healing item meant to be eaten a dozen at a time and decorative dragon claw keys are added. Seems more likely we will see this than the third Elder Lillin at this rate.

meybe they will also add a bow and arrow so we can take an arrow to the knee

 

[rigoberto2020]

Thanks for the response. So is the map not actually a map then? I was actually hoping for something more natural, where you find out where they are and try to seek them out. And also that you could randomly encounter them while traveling around or at the night club.

And what I meant by acknowledge the relationship during sex is, does the dialogue (dirty talk, etc.) or flavor text reference the relationship?

There is some flavour text (whatever pet name they have for you defaults to mom/dad if they're related, so they go with that) sometimes but the moment to moment rarely affects actual sex scene text yet. You can get extra lines at the beginning and end of the scene if you enable party members and go for a threesome.

Two things I've seen talked about on and off for years now is that you can't marry anybody (at least as far as I know) and you can't give your kids or friends a permanent place to stay. Only slaves stay indefinitely unless you intentionally cripple your kids'/friends' income and make them unemployed, thus incurring the cost of their rent onto your own finances, or you never invite them to live with you in the first place.

You can give anyone a permanent place to stay in Lilaya's house; they can work jobs while living with you. Not sure how much that affects their income (since if they don't live with you, it doesn't matter for much anyway?) compared to them being in the streets, though. You can kick them out of the house while preserving them as well -- probably a good idea to wait until they tell you they found another place if you need the room for something else.

My biggest QoL wish rn is being able to name your kids. Late game you just end up with so many it's hard to keep track because the name randomizer can only do so much.

 

[tehlemon]

Got an interesting reaction from the discord, apparently your actually meant to cheese money and stock up on restorative items, as in that's the intended way to heal.

I wouldn't believe them. That's implying that there was any intention behind the combat system and how it interact with the other tools.

But yeah, I'm sure having an infinite supply of 100% healing potions that can be used without any real cost was intended, and not just a horrible lack of foresight when adding two systems that interact in stupid ways.

 

[Welwigo]

... You can give anyone a permanent place to stay in Lilaya's house; they can work jobs while living with you. ...

... My biggest QoL wish rn is being able to name your kids. Late game you just end up with so many it's hard to keep track because the name randomizer can only do so much.

Yeah, they can still work, but it's always a temporary arrangement and it definitely feels like it. Like couch surfing. It doesn't help that in-story it's Lilaya's house, and you get the feeling you're not supposed to stay there for very long. With the way the game's being set up now that more than just Dominion is available, it seems extremely out of place to just leave your new beau in your aunt's house that you only visit once every few months. You could take them with you as a companion, but then you miss out on a lot of the interaction mechanics because Inno decided "Fuck that, I put that in too early," and stopped working on companions. And if they have a job they disappear and travel the whole goddamn way back to Dominion.

As for how kids come to be, I think that was just filler content that's stayed around for way longer than intended. That theory seems a bit more plausible when you look at how random generation for kids occurs, plus the random encounter chance on an unoccupied Dangerous tile. Considering the depth of the other housing mechanics, some of the mechanics surrounding pregnancy, and the initial interactions once you discover your offspring, there's a lot pointing to a currently unimplemented choice immediately after birth between kicking your little crotch goblins out or keeping them around. For instance if you knock up a slave, shouldn't the child be born into slavery as well and thus either pop up in Slaver Alley if you don't have a room, or have a screen where you can assign them a room if one's available? Or if you impregnate someone you took in or freed, shouldn't they get a say in whether or not the fruit of their loins gets thrown out on their ass?

 

[jfmherokiller]

There is some flavour text (whatever pet name they have for you defaults to mom/dad if they're related, so they go with that) sometimes but the moment to moment rarely affects actual sex scene text yet. You can get extra lines at the beginning and end of the scene if you enable party members and go for a threesome.



You can give anyone a permanent place to stay in Lilaya's house; they can work jobs while living with you. Not sure how much that affects their income (since if they don't live with you, it doesn't matter for much anyway?) compared to them being in the streets, though. You can kick them out of the house while preserving them as well -- probably a good idea to wait until they tell you they found another place if you need the room for something else.

My biggest QoL wish rn is being able to name your kids. Late game you just end up with so many it's hard to keep track because the name randomizer can only do so much.

I think you can rename them via the debug console thing.

 

[AlexGD]

I have a question, I don't know if it has already been asked, but I wanted to know if there was a way to make your children have parts of a different race, for example, a wolf-morph with cat-morph parts.

 

[anubis1970]

The most obvious answer is to convince them to drink a potion enchanted to give them the parts you want. Other than that I don't know, I usually don't spawn many kids so as to not slow the game down.

 

[tehlemon]

The most obvious answer is to convince them to drink a potion enchanted to give them the parts you want. Other than that I don't know, I usually don't spawn many kids so as to not slow the game down.

No one ever acknowledges being transformed beyond the initial potion drinking, so that's probably the easiest way.

Save editing always works.