Java Lilith's Throne [v0.4.11.3 Hotfix] [Innoxia]

[sojocal]

As someone who started with CoC, I've build up a resistance for disappointment.

are we trying to out hipster eachother.
I started with um um um.... untitled game.
Honestly i'm not sure how i started with untitled game since i remember find a thread called Champion of Corruption (yes, it's backwards) on ULMF and somehow that led to untitled game rather than CoC

 

[jfmherokiller]

It's always fun to watch this thread derail into talks about coding, writing and legal antics for creative works

Insert obligatory "because there's nothing else to talk about" joke here

well tbh thats pretty true and for me I generally only try to step in during these derailment points when I honestly have a question and I can see the people here know what they are talking about.

 

[BobCarter]

It's always fun to watch this thread derail into talks about coding, writing and legal antics for creative works

Insert obligatory "because there's nothing else to talk about" joke here

Beats the circle hate jerking, and is potentially productive. After all most people here seem to suffer from "bitch eating crackers" as it's called. Lurk for long enough you see people complaining no story content was added, then when it is added they complain the coding isn't being optimized, then when it is being optimized you see people complain that... etc.

 

[Argentus67]

Guys is there a way to disable the tooltip pop ups such as this one? for most of the time it's obscuring the item and pervents me from using/clicking on it

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[blackchimaera]

How hard would it be to mod in more 'sex moves'? Basically, I wish there were both dominant and submissive smothering fetish actions like:

Breast Smother/Breast Worship, Butt Smother/Butt Worship, Pussy Smother/Worship, Cock Smother/Worship, Thigh Smother/Worship, Foot Smother/Worship and even Armpit Smother/Worship,

to fit in under the established Fetishes.

 

[sojocal]

Beats the circle hate jerking, and is potentially productive. After all most people here seem to suffer from "bitch eating crackers" as it's called. Lurk for long enough you see people complaining no story content was added, then when it is added they complain the coding isn't being optimized, then when it is being optimized you see people complain that... etc.

can show there's reasonable progress being able on either story or infrastructure?

New Version.


v0.4.6.7 Patch Notes
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• Added artwork for Astrapi, including pregnant and crotch-boob variations. (Crotch boobs will be shown if your 'Crotch-boob & Udder Content' content setting is turned on.) Astrapi can't be impregnated at the moment, but I'll add pregnancy content for her for the next update!
• Added artwork for Vronti.

Contributors:

• Fixed a significant amount of typos and grammatical errors. (PR#1701 by Lis)
• Significant rework and refactor of Controller classes, improved UI handling, and added a 4th +/- button to the fluid storage and regeneration transformation menus. (PR#1713 by Maxis010)
• Fixed issue where subspecies changes for dragons, coatls, and gryphons didn't account for taur/lamia leg configurations when assigning minimum wing size. (by MintyChip)
• Added 'banana' as a new fluid flavouring. (PR#1696 by DSG)
• Added mythical 'salamander' race, with two subspecies; 'flame salamanders' and 'frost salamanders'. (PR#1707 by MintyChip)
• Added 'panda' as a subspecies to the 'bear' race. (PR#1697 by DSG)
• Balanced the flame value calculations for enchanted items, clothing and weapons. (PR#1695 by Maxis010)
• Improved error reporting for parser state errors and improved the parser so that it skips svg files within the parsed input. (PR#1690 by CognitiveMist)
• Added a specific flag to indicate the player's lilin heritage rather than just checking if they are a demon. (PR#1688 by MintyChip)
• Added fetish selection options to sexual experience menu during the prologue's character creation process. (PR#1687 by MintyChip)
• Added Java vendor and basic OS information to error.log to help improve troubleshooting. (by CognitiveMist)
• Fixed grammatical issues in the alligator-morph's racial descriptions. (PR#1685 by Maymay)
• Fixed a cause of the issue where NPCs self-equipping condoms would react as though someone else had equipped the condom. (by Maxis010)
• Fixed bug where a character with an aquatic-tailed lower body would have their leg and feet equipment incorrectly blocked and unblocked, due to the wrong status effects being checked. (by Stadler)
• Added 'latex leggings' (feminine, leg slot, sold by Finch, latex lover set). (by Sage)
• Fixed issue with some buttons in Kate's cosmetics dialogues being unresponsive. (by Maxis010)
• Made LT runnable directly on the most recent Java LTS (17) and created an automatic build and release pipeline to reduce workload using Maven. Also fixed several opaque elements which were supposed to be transparent. (PR#1684 by Tazze)
• Added the ability to choose either the feminine or masculine Enforcer's uniform when progressing past Brax's stage of the main quest. (PR#1721 by Nonny5Mouse)
• Enabled setting furry level for salamander spawns. (PR#1730 by Stadler)
• Replaced an instance of a deprecated newInstance() method. (by AceXP)

Gameplay:

• Added bad ends to losing combat against the harpy matriarchs in the Harpy Nests.

Sex:

• Characters with a spinneret can now only apply webbing to themselves or their sexual partners if they have the related permission to manage their own/others clothing.
• NPCs will now only equip condoms to themselves or their partners if they dislike the associated 'cum stud' or 'cum addict' fetishes. Previous behaviour was to equip if they disliked or were neutral to the fetishes, so this should reduce the amount of NPCs wanting to equip condoms.
• NPCs will now only equip BDSM or latex gear onto their partners if they like or love the 'bondage applier' fetish.
• If Meraxis doesn't have a fetish that's associated with her post-duel sex scenes, she will now end sex after she's orgasmed once, instead of when the player has orgasmed once, thereby always giving you the opportunity to influence her fetishes when she orgasms.

Other:

• The 'Crotch-boobs & Udders' body setting now only applies to randomly-generated NPCs at the moment of their creation (as was stated in the option's tooltip), allowing all characters to gain crotch-boobs/udders via TF no matter the setting.
• Added a new 'Crotch-boob & Udder Content' setting in the 'Sex & Fetishes' content options to enable/disable udder-related sex actions and udder transformations to be inflicted upon the player. (Enabled by default.)
• Darkened inventory slot icons in the tattoo view panel to differentiate it from normal inventory view.
• Added finer control over sex experience count in character creation and custom slave ordering screens, added anilingus experience, and made it so anal sex experiences are hidden if anal content is disabled.

Bugs:

• Parsing fixes.
• Fixed several rendering issue with the buyback menu.
• Fixed issue where the women's watch in character creation had random primary and secondary colours.
• Fixed bug where penile virginity losses would be reset at the end of character creation.
• World and place names in the UI are now correctly parsed.
• Fixed issue in the 'owned by random NPC' content, where when the NPC took you to get tattooed, the tattoo in the 'lower abdomen' slot would work fine, but the one in the 'lower back' slot would never be given.
• Fixed bug in the post-fight scenes when encountering centauresses in Themiscyra, where sometimes Aurokaris would be identified by the game as being one of the two centauress attackers.
• Fixed issue where unequipping clothing when multiple layers were covering the clothing to be unequipped would sometimes not work correctly. (This is likely still slightly bugged, but I will properly fix it for the update.)
• Fixed issue where imported characters would sometimes fail to load in correctly.
• Fixed causes of the issue where Dominion-alley-demons, cultists, Kate, and Ralph would react to self-equipping condoms as though someone else had equipped the condom.
• The special 'beer barrel' and 'Hazmat Rat Vending Machine' clothing items will no longer potentially be equipped to randomly spawned NPCs, or show up as random loot in alleyway tiles.
• Fixed issue where Rose's sex preferences would ignore your anal content setting in the sex scene after being discovered by her in Lilaya's room.
• Fixed bug where molesting a slave who has the 'unwilling fuck-toy' or 'submissive' fetishes would cause an affection loss, despite the description saying otherwise.

This can be broken down to

By FAF

01) art work added for crotch boobs

By contributors
02) grammatical errors
03) refactor on controller class / infrastructure UI
04) shippable-bug fix
05) fluid fluff
06) race fluff
07) race fluff
08) economy balance
09) parser bug fixing and infrastructure
10) a flag.... (why?.... i honestly don't know, and there might be a good reason)
11) Character creation infrastructure / fetishes
12) Bug fix infrastructure
13) grammatical errors
14) condom grammatical/logic errors?
15) Bug fix related to body parts
16) body part part fluff
17) UI bug fix
18) makes the game runnable on recent and secure version of Maven / ui bugs
19) single story option for clothing

20) race spawn option
21) replaced a single line of code?

Inno ( i think)
22) Bad ends
23) new sex interaction based on a body part
24) AI change
25) AI change
26) NPC ends sex based on condition

27) NPC spawn with random body parts
28) add option for a body part spawning
29) darken the UI in spots
30) add fine controls to Character creation

31) Parser Bugfix
32) Render bug bugfix
33) Fix women's watch having a primary and secondary color?
34) NPC not able to force you to get Tattoo - bugfixed
35) NPC in a fight not being detected as right race - bugfixed
36) NPC failing to load - bugfixed
37) NPC reaction to self equipping condoms - bugfixed
38) shippable-bug - bugfix
39) content filter - bugfix
40) fetish bug - bugfix

a lot of this is padding and here's the lines i'd use in an argument for switching versions.

By contributors
01) parser bug fixing and infrastructure
02) Bug fix infrastructure
03) Bug fix related to body parts
04) UI bug fix
05) makes the game runnable on recent and secure version of Maven (y) / ui bugs


Inno ( i think)

06) new sex interaction based on a body part
07) NPC spawn with random body parts (You can really chalk up the next bullet point in the OG list as also this)
08) Parser Bugfix
09) Render bug bugfix
10) NPC failing to load - bugfixed
11) content filter - bugfix

I think i'm being kind here. Bug fixes and fluff are neat, but don't show progress to anything.
This looks like the project is going no where, since.... the project is going no where... fast.
If you want a project to compare this to, good look at Degrees of Lewdity. It has a lot of fluff just like LT, but it makes progress every month. I don't have to look at the changelog to tell you there's new content since i last played in both new and old areas because.

 

[BobCarter]

can show there's reasonable progress being able on either story or infrastructure?

Yeah, like 2-3 updates ago they added the begin of the new chapter, the update before this last one optimized saves and one of them started the engine migration to the latest javascript from what I recall alone. Now before you tail on "reasonable" aspect, this is a TFGame, and thus expecting more then 4 updates a year is often unrealistic (and that's normally for HTML5 games...), so for them having released like 6 updates this year puts them in the top 20% at least for active deployment.

This all said, no this update didn't do a whole lot, it is clearly a filler update, and that's fine and all, and if people only complained about the filler updates no one would likely even be annoyed with all the complaining.

DoL is an HTML game made for a different kind of audience (mainly the loli/shotacon one in DoL's case), while this is a TF Furry RPG in Java. Which is to say CoC2(?) is likely closer, no real apples to apples comparison, since so few things use Java.

 

[Marlin Brandy]

Now before you tail on "reasonable" aspect, this is a TFGame, and thus expecting more then 4 updates a year is often unrealistic (and that's normally for HTML5 games...), so for them having released like 6 updates this year puts them in the top 20% at least for active deployment.

I don't understand how it being a TFGame leads to 4 updates a year being unrealistic

 

[Wolfdragon20]

anyone know when the exe versin will get the new updates?

 

[Bicocklover5656]

Not to piss in your cornflakes, but I really would take the time to practice some.
I won't demand you copy me comma for comma, but if you add some in to clarify and partition your thoughts, it'll make people far better inclined towards you later. Especially if you drop another monolith like you did earlier.
I'm not asking for my sake, but yours, and for the quality of your interactions going forward.

I Shall not say I will or I Wont I make no promises one way or the other For My Own Personal Reasons
and because of those reasons Just know that I know what My Limits are

But Anyways I thank you For the far more Respectful approach to the topic have a great day

 

[BaloneyAmone]

anyone know when the exe versin will get the new updates?

Whenever the next public build comes out, so the official answer is "no one knows".

 

[anubis1970]

anyone know when the exe versin will get the new updates?

If you believe her blog, the target date is Nov. 25th for the next public release. However Inno's track record for meeting deadlines is less than stellar.

On the bright side, we might see a Christmas release of... something.

 

[relaxtitan]

cant seem to trigger the harpy bad end, need help
and yes i did lost through combat but all i got was choice between "transform or refuse"

 

[CaptainBipto]

cant seem to trigger the harpy bad end, need help
and yes i did lost through combat but all i got was choice between "transform or refuse"

You need to enable Bad Ends in the Content Options.


If you have that enabled, my suggestion would be to toggle it off, exit and then restart the game and then enable it again. If it still isn't working, try using another save, it could be your current save has gotten corrupted somehow.

 

[GammaXai]

How hard would it be to mod in more 'sex moves'?

'Mod' is a bad word choice as it wouldn't be a drop in additional file like the clothing mods. It would be editing existing source code files and then compiling the game with the changes.
Hard is a poor word choice. It is an issue of quantity of work to add a sex act as it is a large amount of work more than it is an issue of quality of skill.

 

[BobCarter]

I don't understand how it being a TFGame leads to 4 updates a year being unrealistic

There is 6 updates a year with this project, meanwhile most games in the genre don't even get 4, and their all generally HTML5 easy broadline not even a game, games. (That or skinner boxes with a lot of grinding)

This is above community standards, and what you should expect, there for it's unreasonable to expect more. Expecting far more then Status Quo is unreasonable, as there is no reason to expect such.

It's a 1 man team with mental issues, using a powerful but difficult to use engine.

 

[ebonheart2319]

There is 6 updates a year with this project, meanwhile most games in the genre don't even get 4, and their all generally HTML5 easy broadline not even a game, games. (That or skinner boxes with a lot of grinding)

This is above community standards, and what you should expect, there for it's unreasonable to expect more. Expecting far more then Status Quo is unreasonable, as there is no reason to expect such.

It's a 1 man team with mental issues, using a powerful but difficult to use engine.

Its also operating on a 5 figure annual budget.
Monthly content updates were HER personal promise.
So she is still 6 updates under her own par.
Absolutely reasonable to castigate her for her lack of competency of her own game with her own schedules, on her own roadmaps, with her own budgets.

I could care less what sob story she needs to vent to her therapist.
Shes a lazy slacker, coasting on her communities goodwill.

 

[Deleted member 65106]

I could care less what sob story she needs to vent to her therapist.
Shes a lazy slacker, coasting on her communities goodwill.

It has been said multiple times before, they could enlist more help with all that cash being raked in. The artists are being paid, but the people helping fix some of the code are doing that shit for free and less-than-part-time

 

[Dr.Feelgood]

There is 6 updates a year with this project, meanwhile most games in the genre don't even get 4, and their all generally HTML5 easy broadline not even a game, games. (That or skinner boxes with a lot of grinding)

This is above community standards, and what you should expect, there for it's unreasonable to expect more. Expecting far more then Status Quo is unreasonable, as there is no reason to expect such.

It's a 1 man team with mental issues, using a powerful but difficult to use engine.

Don't forget that the missed deadlines that we all keep on ribbing on are part of the schedule that Inno makes for herself on top of the other shattered promises of her own making. I give my coworkers shit for repeatedly screwing shit up like this and breaking their own word, so of course I'll make fun of someone that is making a livable wage and (supposedly) working full time on this project for a long time. Kinda hard to give credit to someone that has been lying out of their ass (or grossly overestimating themselves for years without thinking they might need to get their shit together at some point) for a few years now.

Also, since when the hell is Java a 'hard' engine to use? Yeah, it isn't Python or HTML programming, but there is also a reason why those two are one of the first languages programmers typically learn and why they aren't used for particularly advanced games.

 

[Draupnir7]

Also, since when the hell is Java a 'hard' engine to use? Yeah, it isn't Python or HTML programming, but there is also a reason why those two are one of the first languages programmers typically learn and why they aren't used for particularly advanced games.

Given the Thanos bug that was recently introduced, the one that can atomize NPCs on file load, I'm willing to give him that point.