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dota23

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The idea of rescuing the game from Inno has been floating around a lot, but here's a thought: with how much of a mess the code is, do you think just cleaning and optimizing the game would constitute a radical enough change to make it legally distinct?
Legally you are not allowed to distribute it unless it is free, but even then the license contradicts itself and says inno has sole ownership... probably best to just respect their wishes, regardless how you feel about them. You could probably scrape together something similar. If you had even a two person team on a more modern language is probably easier then you expect. I imagine it would be better to do it that way anyways given the quality of the code.
 
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Alright let's pretend Innoxia actually sticks to this schedule for a second (lol). He claims he's going to be working 50 - 52 hours a week on this game. Since the last (full) release on the 27th of November, it's been 17 weeks. I know he claimed to be busy for Christmas so let's be generous and subtract all of December and the part week at the end of November, that's still 12 weeks until today. That's around 600 - 624 hours of supposed work. How in the world can you be spending THIS MUCH time working on a project and manage to do absolutely nothing and fail to meet every single release target over a 4 month period?
Holy Sh*t, I knew about the "I'm going to treat the development as a full time job" promise, which already made the results delivered look terrible, but I missed this part that puts thing on a whole new low...
 
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sasha2

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I mean obviously I'm not a backer here and I won't tell other people what to do with their money, but it's just like....man you're making about 94k annually from backers, You're making more money than some people might ever get the chance to make, and you can't meet a deadline or even inform your backers you know in Advance that deadlines won't be met? I mean there are times Inno has basically just ghosted for like a couple weeks after missing the deadline.
You're looking at it from the wrong side.
Here's the actual though process from Inno's point of view:
You can work. Or not work. Either way you're paid almost exactly the same, because supporter numbers are still increasing, in the first case slowly, in the latter a bit more slowly.
The rational choice is to work as little as possible.
 

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Legally you are not allowed to distribute it unless it is free, but even then the license contradicts itself and says inno has sole ownership... probably best to just respect their wishes, regardless how you feel about them. You could probably scrape together something similar. If you had even a two person team on a more modern language is probably easier then you expect. I imagine it would be better to do it that way anyways given the quality of the code.
"hey chat-gpt, optimize the code of Liliths´s Throne"
oh boy... cant wait for A.I. assisted coding, i am interested on whatever is the reasoning why the infamous devs who work on their hobbies for 5+ years on this board will be, why they wont use the tool....

probably something akin the artists on twitter whining "it makes me look bad" and "its doing my work in a fracture of time, this is bad"...
 
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"hey chat-gpt, optimize the code of Liliths´s Throne"
oh boy... cant wait for A.I. assisted coding, i am interested on whatever is the reasoning why the infamous devs who work on their hobbies for 5+ years on this board will be, why they wont use the tool....

probably something akin the artists on twitter whining "it makes me look bad" and "its doing my work in a fracture of time, this is bad"...
The idea sounds amazing.
The thing with A.I. looks good from perspective of a person who doesn't know anything. However people who mastered programming tells that A.I. creates code prone to bugs and errors. That's why it's only good as entry level programmer. Of course you cannot detect it unless you have learned it.
 
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Can't run lt_0.4.7.5_pr.jar

Edit: Got Java 8 up to date (v361), and JDK SE 19 installed and active.

Previous releases worked ok (non EXE versions), but this one won't start. Even tried switching my AV off.

TIA

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Shazam55

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You're looking at it from the wrong side.
Here's the actual though process from Inno's point of view:
You can work. Or not work. Either way you're paid almost exactly the same, because supporter numbers are still increasing, in the first case slowly, in the latter a bit more slowly.
The rational choice is to work as little as possible.
Oh...yeah why didn't I think about it like that.. no now that makes sense actually....
 

kid_named_ehs

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hi im new to this site and i just wanna ask how do you install the update of this game i tried to delete the old version and download the new one but the file of the new one only give me the patch but not the .exe. if anyone knows how to update this, please help. thank you :)
 

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"Aight y'all got me, I suck at managing schedules and keeping promises, and I'm running out of excuses by now. So I'll get straight to the point by continuing to do what I don't suck at: making more promises and breaking them. Still not gonna enable blogspot comment tho, cope harder."

While her apology rant is understandable given her utter failure at keeping her own schedule, I have a big feeling that even if she turned to weekly posting, it wouldn't be any better than more delay posts to scroll through. As long as she keeps building on the burning dumpster which is engine that she made, the game's future isn't going anywhere bright. It needs a complete rewrite at some points, and the more content Inno loads on the game the longer it will take for a total makeover in the future.
 
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"hey chat-gpt, optimize the code of Liliths´s Throne"
oh boy... cant wait for A.I. assisted coding, i am interested on whatever is the reasoning why the infamous devs who work on their hobbies for 5+ years on this board will be, why they wont use the tool....

probably something akin the artists on twitter whining "it makes me look bad" and "its doing my work in a fracture of time, this is bad"...

People will use AI assisted programming. Some already do. The issue with it, as other people have said, is that it's far from even being decent. After AI generated images became a thing, a lot of new games came out of nowhere and the same thing will happen when AI gets better at coding. The issue is and always will be - scaling. While an AI will give you the code for a merge sort or the JS for a green button, it will never be able to understand architecture, not when it comes to thousands and tens of thousands of lines of code.

Essentially all 'games' would be just like Lilith's Throne: a buggy, laggy mess.

This is not to say that if you're a programmer, you know it's easier to write something from scratch than to try to debug someone else's code
 
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The idea of rescuing the game from Inno has been floating around a lot, but here's a thought: with how much of a mess the code is, do you think just cleaning and optimizing the game would constitute a radical enough change to make it legally distinct?
does anyone care enough about this game's plot or setting to rescue it? personally i only play it for the porn and customization. if a clone(for lack of a better word) had those functions and worked even slightly better i know i'd abandon this game in a heartbeat
 

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Here is a mod list i discovered on pastebin (!UPDATE!) Purged Additional links that have since become broken

  1. Most of the mods from #mod-sharing of as of 2019-04-01
  2. Alesch: Masqurade Masque Item mod!
  3. New Years Umbreon | Ray: Chest Plate Item Mod
  4. Spectacular: Hat of the Lewd Archmage
  5. Spectacular: Loincloth of the Barbarian Hero
  6. Spectacular: Bimbo Collar
  7. Spectacular: Cockblocking Clitoral Stud
  8. Spectacular: Priapus Cock Ring
  9. Notarin (buttplug):
  10. Pandora the Futa Fairy: a slutty maid dress
  11. Bicobus (monocle and tophat):
  12. Zac: Armor Pack #1 Mega
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  13. Aragonius42 (LVL 666 Incubus): mesh undershirt, slutty milkmaid dress and front zip hoodie.
  14. DesuDemona: Chastity panties
  15. Aragonius42 (LVL 666 Incubus): buttplug, cockring
  16. CodingAnon: Latex, Cheongsam and Belly Dancer Clothing Mod
  17. Pandora the Futa Fairy: Orion's Vag Plug and Skimpy Maid Dress v0.3
  18. DeadVoid: DeadVoid's Impersonation Collection
  19. Ishara: tattoos and stuff
  20. CatholicHanar: Additional Punk Stuff Mega
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  21. Gilly: TF clothing mod! v1 (chubby sweaters)
  22. Queju (LVL Butts Futa Collector): One-Clan-Under-Moon-and-Sta ring
  23. Leslie: Cropped Leather Jacket
  24. Tirppa: Sleeveless Dress shirt
  25. Leslie: The Honshu Dress
  26. Irbynx: Irbynx's Clothing Mod Pack
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  27. Connie Lingus: Bottled human essence
  28. Myuu「陰茎恋人」: Hair(tail) Ribbon
  29. Blue999: Blue999's Clothes Pack by blue999 (Convenience store uniform and low cut blouse0 Mega
  30. Nnxx: Reimu's head ribbon
  31. BeatAss: Large buttplug
  32. Alberich: Katana Mega
  33. Myuu「陰茎恋人」: Spear
  34. Stone Free: Runesword
  35. Stone Free: Lewdsaber
  36. Nnxx: Demon's Bane scythe
  37. 「Dohe」: Knight's Shield Mega
  38. Stone Free: Arcane Revolvers (v2)
  39. rfpnj: Bombs (Physical and Smoke) Mega
  40. Tlavoc: Orichalcum Set, Sealing Cock Ring, Tentawhip Set, Tyrant, Innocence
  41. : Enforcer's Trousers
  42. TW: Canoe Oar
  43. TW: Automatic Laser Handgun
  44. TW: Graphene Composite Saber
  45. TW: Furi set
  46. TW: The Hunter's wear from Bloodborne
  47. TW: King Crimson's Gauntlets
  48. Myuu「陰茎恋人」: Hoodless cloak
  49. Dondada: Side Sword, Labrys, Halberd
  50. Tandaiogetchx: Cleaver-Sword
  51. Dondada: Claws, Scepter, Cutlass
  52. Abbertuotch: Round Glasses
  53. TrashMan: Eternal Virgin Right and anal Chastity Belt
  54. Abbertuotch: Handcuffs
  55. Tumesuo: Flip-flops
  56. YowaneSan (Lvl 6.5 Tailor): Momiji Cloth Set
  57. YowaneSan (Lvl 6.5 Tailor): Grey Wolf Cloth Set
  58. YowaneSan (Lvl 6.5 Tailor): Cheerleader Tiger Set
  59. YowaneSan (Lvl 6.5 Tailor): Ghost Queen Set
  60. YowaneSan (Lvl 6.5 Tailor): Ribbon Undergarment & 2 patterns
  61. : Garterbelt Leggings
  62. Water: Rough Leather Armour
  63. Blackhole32: D-Eagle
  64. Water: Crotchless Tights
  65. Svartsnoe: Blindfold
  66. Gynoid: Keyhole Turtleneck
  67. thebigdaddyking4536: Dsg's digital camo modded to work with multiple Colors
  68. Stryth: Digimon themed tattoo renamons leg markings
  69. CognitiveMist|Phlarx: Diaper, Pacifier
  70. thebigdaddyking4536: Ka Bar, Katana, Naginata, Shield
  71. : BB gun
  72. Bloom: Two-Tones and Triangle-Shades
  73. Blackhole32: M1 Garand
  74. Zyrodil: Zyro's Videogame Pack Mega
  75. thebigdaddyking4536: Kar98k, Sturmkampfgewehr Mega
  76. Myuu「陰茎恋人」: Super Eye Patch
  77. Halloween Pack
  78. Demon lingerie
  79. Egyptian-inspired clothing and accessories
  80. Vaginal and nipple bell piercings
  81. Shrine maiden outfit and accessories, and latex maid dress
  82. Plague doctor clothing, weapon, and set bonus
  83. Big Anime and video game pack Google Drive
  84. Mermaid clothing & accessories
  85. pokemon mod
  86. Qipao Chinese dresses
  87. Sailor school girl Uniforms
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Thanks legend
 
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sasha2

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While an AI will give you the code for a merge sort or the JS for a green button, it will never be able to understand architecture, not when it comes to thousands and tens of thousands of lines of code.
Never say never, but yeah, current AI sucks at planning ahead. It cannot tell a joke longer than few sentences.
I've used ChatGPT for code and while it gives solutions for small, contained problems, when the problem becomes larger or involves some kind of analysis, it fails.

AI aside, are there any good mods for LT out there? The base game is not doing it for me. Any suggestions are fine.
 
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