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Zaravon

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Sep 26, 2021
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Delayed yet again. I wish Inno would post something even if its not fully implemented rather than delay delay delay so we get nothing. Last public build was in November ffs.
 

BBGunna

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Not even a new release date, and some "attempt" at personal responsibility? Is Inno learning...probably not but hey it's a start I guess.
 

Shazam55

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Jun 30, 2018
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"I fully understand if you want to stop supporting me, and please know that I'm extremely grateful for any and all support you've given."


Potentially setting up for abandoning the project? Either way I mean dam inno is making like almost 100k annually based on their SubscribeStar numbers and we haven't gotten a major update in like almost a year or half a year now?.
 
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Sarkath

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What! 48 gb?.... You know, i'd say i don't know how that's possible, but i might now how that's possible.
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hmmmm....
you know what, i don't know how that's possible but i'll tell everyone what i was thinking anyways.
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This can't be from all the string replace. Damn! This game amazes me.
From what I remember, it was caused by the game repeatedly allocating massive arrays during the endTurn() method (which is called every time the player moves or performs a combat action). I seem to remember seeing it iterating through an array, allocating and abandoning other large arrays with each pass, which caused an immense amount of allocations and, in turn, a whole ton of GC pressure.

I didn't really dig into it too deep at that point. Maybe I'll get inspired enough to delve into it again at some point. I do love a challenge. :)
 

NODOGAN

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Man I've been out of the loop for a while, quick question but what happened to the windows32 versions of the game?
 

CaptainBipto

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Not even a new release date, and some "attempt" at personal responsibility? Is Inno learning...probably not but hey it's a start I guess.
I seriously doubt it.
I have seen that song and dance before from Inno and I really don't expect anything to change. There will probably be 1 or 2 updates that are 'kinda on time' then Inno will fall back in to the same things they were doing.

Sorry for sounding like a downer about it and I would like to be surprised by Inno actually learning and changing, but their past track record says otherwise.
 

throbzombie

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Not even a new release date, and some "attempt" at personal responsibility? Is Inno learning...probably not but hey it's a start I guess.
Inno pretty much gave up on posting deadlines already, so yeah, no new release date.
 

BianTheGreat

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Jan 3, 2021
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Tried to come back to this game after like half a year.
No updates since then.
Fine, the game is good enough, I don't need to focus on the story, im just gonna have fun, take it slow, you know.
The game starts having issues running smoothly, clasic java shenanigans.
Save the game, come back tomorrow, the game bugs out, i can't use the UI with my mouse anymore, have to play keyboard only, check the settings, nothing i can change to make it work again, save and reload, still the same.


See you in like 6 months i guess
 

Asuka_Chan

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Sep 10, 2021
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I do not know how to start the game, from the spoiler "installation" I can not take anything either, can someone help me please?
 

TheKiwi47

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Not even a new release date, and some "attempt" at personal responsibility? Is Inno learning...probably not but hey it's a start I guess.
You know these snivelling "UwU Im so sowwy I delayed the update the 19th time in a row, I understand if you leave :3" excuses piss me off more than if he just said "Yeah I'm too lazy, fuck you", I know it's beating a dead horse at this point but fuck's sake DO something about your inability to meet a single deadline instead of failing miserably everytime and then trying to go for sympathy with this woe is me crap.
 

tehlemon

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Not even a new release date, and some "attempt" at personal responsibility? Is Inno learning...probably not but hey it's a start I guess.
It's been just under five years of me off and on watching this exact same cycle play out. Inno doesn't need to learn, she needs to care. And she clearly doesn't really. She already knows what the problem is, and she's made this exact same post before. Basically any time she starts losing subscribers she puts out a pity post to pull a few of the dumb ones back.

She doesn't need to learn because she knows exactly what's she's doing.
 

SBT01

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"I fully understand if you want to stop supporting me, and please know that I'm extremely grateful for any and all support you've given."


Potentially setting up for abandoning the project? Either way I mean dam inno is making like almost 100k annually based on their SubscribeStar numbers and we haven't gotten a major update in like almost a year or half a year now?.
I hope they don't abandon the project.
If I understand correctly, the project has been developed for a long time and has many mechanics that were not planned to be added initially. My guess is that the game has reached a point where it's easier to "write" it from scratch with new mechanics in mind than it is to add new mechanics to an existing project. If the game has already been "rewritten from scratch"... I'm new and not that intensive (relatively) following the game.

I sincerely hope that despite all the difficulties, the authors will finish writing the story to the end. I want to know how the story ends.
 

dota23

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May 3, 2018
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I hope they don't abandon the project.
If I understand correctly, the project has been developed for a long time and has many mechanics that were not planned to be added initially. My guess is that the game has reached a point where it's easier to "write" it from scratch with new mechanics in mind than it is to add new mechanics to an existing project. If the game has already been "rewritten from scratch"... I'm new and not that intensive (relatively) following the game.

I sincerely hope that despite all the difficulties, the authors will finish writing the story to the end. I want to know how the story ends.
They will never abandon the project because the game is most likely their sole source of income. At this point these updates are more of a "please stay subscribed to me" then anything. They probably got burned out a long time ago and are just scraping by, I know, I get it. I can't imagine how it must be when you rely on said project for income as well, not to say that they really should be treating it like a job instead of a hobby still.

Sadly this is how it works. There is no responsibility because this behavior does not affect subscriptions to a point where you can't live of it.
 
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Draupnir7

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The idea of rescuing the game from Inno has been floating around a lot, but here's a thought: with how much of a mess the code is, do you think just cleaning and optimizing the game would constitute a radical enough change to make it legally distinct?
 
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EmDotRand

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Man I've been out of the loop for a while, quick question but what happened to the windows32 versions of the game?
The 32bit latest non-preview version is still on the blog:


The fact this game can even run on 32bit Windows impresses me.
 

Shazam55

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Jun 30, 2018
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They will never abandon the project because the game is most likely their sole source of income. At this point these updates are more of a "please stay subscribed to me" then anything. They probably got burned out a long time ago and are just scraping by, I know, I get it. I can't imagine how it must be when you rely on said project for income as well, not to say that they really should be treating it like a job instead of a hobby still.

Sadly this is how it works. There is no responsibility because this behavior does not affect subscriptions to a point where you can't live of it.
I mean sure, but Inno is pulling in from what I calculated like, 100k. I don't know if one can say the deadlines and updates they've put nearly 6 figure Salary worth would you?

I mean obviously I'm not a backer here and I won't tell other people what to do with their money, but it's just like....man you're making about 94k annually from backers, You're making more money than some people might ever get the chance to make, and you can't meet a deadline or even inform your backers you know in Advance that deadlines won't be met? I mean there are times Inno has basically just ghosted for like a couple weeks after missing the deadline.

I mean would it necessarily be so hard to just go, OK deadline is delayed. I've completed x and y, but z is still taking some time because.

Just the whole transparency Inno seems to have is pretty lackluster...
 

thecook78

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Dec 12, 2018
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So folks. Any idea if there's collections/places of non-discord exports or mods?

I'm sure some weirdo has made like 80,000 pornstars and real life actors.
 

TheKiwi47

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Alright let's pretend Innoxia actually sticks to this schedule for a second (lol). He claims he's going to be working 50 - 52 hours a week on this game. Since the last (full) release on the 27th of November, it's been 17 weeks. I know he claimed to be busy for Christmas so let's be generous and subtract all of December and the part week at the end of November, that's still 12 weeks until today. That's around 600 - 624 hours of supposed work. How in the world can you be spending THIS MUCH time working on a project and manage to do absolutely nothing and fail to meet every single release target over a 4 month period?
 
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