RPGM Lisa [v3.1.3A] [PaleGrass]

[NewTricks]

Wow, aren't you a nice guy. Here's the thing bucko, when it comes to porn we don't mind being seen as meat to be fucked, but that doesn't mean we have to be treated like shit for being who we are. Common decency is the least we can get, but I guess you're the type of guy who's fine with making people feel sub-human. How's that going for you when it comes to dating? Treating women regardless of what they have between their legs like shit, don't tend to endear you towards women. So I take it you're painfully single? I wouldn't expect anything else from someone who's fine with being an asshole towards a minority, and women in general for that matter.

I don't think that the comment that triggered this response merited much response at all. But you make good points pertaining to the treatment of trans characters and cis women in adult VNs. Have you had the opportunity to play the games by After Choices such as Kathoey and Free Pass? They may be more of what you are looking for in terms of positive trans character representation.

 

[AlliebuttDK]

I don't think that the comment that triggered this response merited much response at all. But you make good points pertaining to the treatment of trans characters and cis women in adult VNs. Have you had the opportunity to play the games by After Choices such as Kathoey and Free Pass? They may be more of what you are looking for in terms of positive trans character representation.

I'll admit it didn't warrant that response no, but ugh I hate when people willingly ignore the points I'm trying to make, by going all "Stop whining snowflake" on me regardless of how valid and correct my opinion is. And yes I have! They're wonderful games, even though I'll admit that there's some cultural barriers that sometimes caused me to misunderstand what was being said and done. But those cultural differences are neat to see! It gives people of other cultures more rep, which is always something I'm down with, even if I don't understand said culture, and therefor can't entirely relate to it.

 

[lemonfreak]

I'll admit it didn't warrant that response no, but ugh I hate when people willingly ignore the points I'm trying to make, by going all "Stop whining snowflake" on me regardless of how valid and correct my opinion is. And yes I have! They're wonderful games, even though I'll admit that there's some cultural barriers that sometimes caused me to misunderstand what was being said and done. But those cultural differences are neat to see! It gives people of other cultures more rep, which is always something I'm down with, even if I don't understand said culture, and therefor can't entirely relate to it.

My response in such a situation is to post the following:

lemonfreak uses ignore

It's super effective

then block them

 

[PaleGrass]

Where do I put the saves?

Lisa>www>save

^_^

My god, your love and adoration towards her isn't any less important just because you wrote her! If anything, it's even more important than what others think about her. As a trans woman myself, I really do appreciate you for giving such a good source of representation, even if it's still in a porn game, haha. And sadly, the shit that happens to her isn't unrealistic. We're incredibly likely to be the victim of that kind of treatment, so although it was super painful to watch, it does put a spotlight on what a lot of us face on a daily basis. Whether that was intentional or not, that's something I appreciate too as well, seeing as a lot of people conveniently overlook the fact that statistically we're more likely than cis women to be raped and even killed. I don't want to drag on and make this all super political, but just know that you're doing good work dev <3 I'm only one trans woman, but you certainly have my approval :3

I actually hate that scene out the back of the bar but I felt it necessary to put into perspective the gravity of what Aoife's going through. Oddly enough when I first wrote out that scene that's when the whole story sort of slotted into place for me ^_^ I made that scene very early on in development and I just latched onto her personality so much I wanted her to be more of a mainstay than just another "day at work event" and here a year on she's basically the second lead x)

Awk that's so nice of you to say, thank you so much! I will do my best to keep and bolster that approval AlliebuttDK <3

What does one need to do to start Moddy's gathering ? I am unable to start it. there are no events in the workshop

Camping Trip
Hot Tub unlocked at home
Both of Moddy's Mod Shop events seen
Wearing Lisa's mechanic sweats

Then the event will start in the shop ^_^

I know it's difficult to find but I will fix the mod shop journal soon buddy, I'm just swamped rn x

 

[brokenone222]

Lisa>www>save

^_^



I actually hate that scene out the back of the bar but I felt it necessary to put into perspective the gravity of what Aoife's going through. Oddly enough when I first wrote out that scene that's when the whole story sort of slotted into place for me ^_^ I made that scene very early on in development and I just latched onto her personality so much I wanted her to be more of a mainstay than just another "day at work event" and here a year on she's basically the second lead x)

Awk that's so nice of you to say, thank you so much! I will do my best to keep and bolster that approval AlliebuttDK <3




Camping Trip
Hot Tub unlocked at home
Both of Moddy's Mod Shop events seen
Wearing Lisa's mechanic sweats

Then the event will start in the shop ^_^

I know it's difficult to find but I will fix the mod shop journal soon buddy, I'm just swamped rn x

Thank U

 

[borjafra]

Lisa>www>save

^_^



I actually hate that scene out the back of the bar but I felt it necessary to put into perspective the gravity of what Aoife's going through. Oddly enough when I first wrote out that scene that's when the whole story sort of slotted into place for me ^_^ I made that scene very early on in development and I just latched onto her personality so much I wanted her to be more of a mainstay than just another "day at work event" and here a year on she's basically the second lead x)

Awk that's so nice of you to say, thank you so much! I will do my best to keep and bolster that approval AlliebuttDK <3




Camping Trip
Hot Tub unlocked at home
Both of Moddy's Mod Shop events seen
Wearing Lisa's mechanic sweats

Then the event will start in the shop ^_^

I know it's difficult to find but I will fix the mod shop journal soon buddy, I'm just swamped rn x

Not working the saves

 

[brokenone222]

Lisa>www>save

^_^



I actually hate that scene out the back of the bar but I felt it necessary to put into perspective the gravity of what Aoife's going through. Oddly enough when I first wrote out that scene that's when the whole story sort of slotted into place for me ^_^ I made that scene very early on in development and I just latched onto her personality so much I wanted her to be more of a mainstay than just another "day at work event" and here a year on she's basically the second lead x)

Awk that's so nice of you to say, thank you so much! I will do my best to keep and bolster that approval AlliebuttDK <3




Camping Trip
Hot Tub unlocked at home
Both of Moddy's Mod Shop events seen
Wearing Lisa's mechanic sweats

Then the event will start in the shop ^_^

I know it's difficult to find but I will fix the mod shop journal soon buddy, I'm just swamped rn x

When I go into www there is nothing that says save

 

[TheVengefulOne]

Do you have a save before that point mate? That's the only bug report I've received from one other user but I couldn't actually recreate the issue myself. He managed to make it to the train station which fixed the problem (it's obviously a fadeout without a fade in somewhere but I can't for the life of me find it)

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Here you go. Saved before going inside of the massage parlor and triggering the scene.

 

[lemonfreak]

Not working the saves

You need a global save which is made automatically by starting a playthrough.

Then just transfer the save file to the save folder

 

[borjafra]

You need a global save which is made automatically by starting a playthrough.

Then just transfer the save file to the save folder

I did it , and still not working , it doesn´t appear

 

[brokenone222]

You need a global save which is made automatically by starting a playthrough.

Then just transfer the save file to the save folder

This worked for me thanks.

 

[borjafra]

Ok , now its working , thank you so much

 

[lyfsavor]

Not to sound like a noob, but how can a game be Renpy and RPGM both???

 

[TheLecher]

It just might make me believe that the porn (game and video) industry can actually get to a point where we're treated as equals, rather than as a piece of meat to be fucked. Don't get me wrong, I know that the porn industry isn't necessarily great for women in general, but it would be great if we were at least treated the same as cis women at the bare minimum.

The porn industry, in general, doesn't treat anyone all that well, or all that poorly. However, between men, women, and transsexuals, the people in the industry who receive the worst treatment, overall, are men. I understand that most people wouldn't have any idea about this, since most people don't actually know much about the porn industry and how it works.

As for being seen or treated as a piece of meat to be fucked, that's how all performers in the porn industry are seen and treated, and it shouldn't be surprising to anyone. Could they be treated better? Yes, to a certain degree. Should they be treated better? Yes, insofar as it is practical. Should they be seen as victims? No, not so far as the industry itself is concerned. They may, in some cases, be the victims of the general public, but not of the industry.

I actually hate that scene out the back of the bar but I felt it necessary to put into perspective the gravity of what Aoife's going through.

Why would you hate that scene? You don't hate the scene of Lisa being raped, and she's the protagonist of the story. Or at least, you haven't given any indication of hating Lisa's rape scene. These are fictional events, happening to fictional characters, and part of making us care about them and feel that there are high stakes to the story is putting them in bad situations and allowing bad people to do bad things to them. But you already know that, because you're a good writer.

Just like there's nothing whatsoever wrong with a player being turned on by Lisa's rape scene, so there's nothing wrong with a player (or you, the writer) being turned on by Aoife's rape scene, which was far softer and shorter than Lisa's.

 

[lemonfreak]

Not to sound like a noob, but how can a game be Renpy and RPGM both???

It's an RPGM game that has been converted to renpy by a third party

The same happened with Anna Exciting Affection

 

[lyfsavor]

It's an RPGM game that has been converted to renpy by a third party

The same happened with Anna Exciting Affection

Thanks Lemonfreak, after I asked I saw the Renpy version below, sorry old eyes!

 

[dodda]

Lisa>www>save

^_^



I actually hate that scene out the back of the bar but I felt it necessary to put into perspective the gravity of what Aoife's going through. Oddly enough when I first wrote out that scene that's when the whole story sort of slotted into place for me ^_^ I made that scene very early on in development and I just latched onto her personality so much I wanted her to be more of a mainstay than just another "day at work event" and here a year on she's basically the second lead x)

Awk that's so nice of you to say, thank you so much! I will do my best to keep and bolster that approval AlliebuttDK <3




Camping Trip
Hot Tub unlocked at home
Both of Moddy's Mod Shop events seen
Wearing Lisa's mechanic sweats

Then the event will start in the shop ^_^

I know it's difficult to find but I will fix the mod shop journal soon buddy, I'm just swamped rn x

Thanks for the prompt reply man but i am somehow stuck here eventhough i followed all the steps. By any chance do you have a save file right before the Moddy's Gathering even starts ?

 

[rapos]

Great game.............

 

[PaleGrass]

Is this one of those games where you can go full on faithfull or full on whore?

The faithful route is on hold for now but I guess it's sort of one of those games? ^_^ Aside from a couple of early sexual encounters everything else is optional <3

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Here you go. Saved before going inside of the massage parlor and triggering the scene.

Here's a fix for it mate:

You must be registered to see the links

That was so so weird.. the event had already been completed but it was re-running again and even using the event searcher there's only one instance of the trigger in the game. I genuinely have 0 clue how that happened. Was this your save or did it come from somewhere else? I'm just wondering in case it was one of my old saves I used for debugging

If you run into anything else let me know, I'm heading to bed in a bit but I'll get back to you asap <3

Why would you hate that scene? You don't hate the scene of Lisa being raped, and she's the protagonist of the story. Or at least, you haven't given any indication of hating Lisa's rape scene. These are fictional events, happening to fictional characters, and part of making us care about them and feel that there are high stakes to the story is putting them in bad situations and allowing bad people to do bad things to them. But you already know that, because you're a good writer.

Just like there's nothing whatsoever wrong with a player being turned on by Lisa's rape scene, so there's nothing wrong with a player (or you, the writer) being turned on by Aoife's rape scene, which was far softer and shorter than Lisa's.

I've mentioned a ton of times that I was really on the fence about including the bar scene at all but that was because I wasn't sure if it really fit the bill back then and I didn't know how people would take it (how little I knew, eh? ) It isn't the content specifically I dislike but more the character it's happening to I suppose. I think perhaps Lisa's determination to protect and defend Aoife in some way is me speaking through her? ^_^

Thanks for the prompt reply man but i am somehow stuck here eventhough i followed all the steps. By any chance do you have a save file right before the Moddy's Gathering even starts ?

I don't mate but the saves I linked last page I think have all of the checks completed:

https://f95zone.to/threads/lisa-ep-2-ch-2-v1-0-alpha-palegrass.86725/post-7676301

I think it's usually the hot tub that people haven't unlocked, it can be done by trying to go outside to Lisa's pool at home in the morning after having completed the camping trip just in case those saves don't work mate <3

Great game.............

Thanks bro............. <3!

 

[TheVengefulOne]

That was so so weird.. the event had already been completed but it was re-running again and even using the event searcher there's only one instance of the trigger in the game. I genuinely have 0 clue how that happened. Was this your save or did it come from somewhere else? I'm just wondering in case it was one of my old saves I used for debugging

If you run into anything else let me know, I'm heading to bed in a bit but I'll get back to you asap <3

No it wasn't my save. I highly dislike the RPGM engine and had no intention of trying your game again, no offense.

I enjoyed the first release quite a bit, story-wise.

Don't know if it was your save or not, just picked the first I found starting at this update to give it one more try and maybe change my mind. But each time I give RPGM a shot, the more disdain I have for it.

Honestly that is the only thing keeping me from supporting you.